[flashbang]

Hey guys,

I´d like your advice on dealing with a specific situation involving a cockblock. I must admit that even though I´ve been cockblocked before, I´m really beginning to understand the cockblock-related frustration that Roosh speaks about in the book B.A.N.G.

The whole night had gone pretty well with several girls, and now this hot chick was grinding on me like crazy. She and her friend seemed to be really into me. The problem was that this was at a party where everyone knew each other except me(I had joined via another group which I had opened earlier via daygame)

The hot but drunk girls kept disappearing and reappearing in various spots in the venue with this drunk guy. He tried to talk shit about me to them but they said he was rude. Still, he was taking advantage of the hotter and drunker girl by making out with her and fingering her. Determined to not let the opportunity pass, I made sure I left when they did and suggested my hostel as a good place for an afterparty.

Unfortunately as we were walking out of the club, the dude stuck around even though his friends left. He kept talking shit about me and I told him to shut the hell up but this seemed to go down badly with the girls(they knew him already and had only met me that night)

With his friends now gone I was itching to knock him out cold but could not do so with the girls around. They were so drunk that they even slipped on the icy pavement and had to be helped up. The girls changed their story saying they wanted to grab something to eat but after a short while changed it once again saying they were going to the guy´s place.

He said an arrogant goodbye to me and headed off with the 2 girls. Since the girls themselves had said that they were going to his place, I had no choice but to go my own way frustrated that this drunk fool had prevailed. I have the hot girl´s number but I can´t help but feel so pissed off about this experience even though it´s an important lesson that will help my game. While thanking you for taking the time to read this post I humbly ask for your feedback/comments/criticism etc.

(A) How should I deal with a drunk male cockblocker of this sort in the future, keeping in mind that they already know him through being in the same study program
(B) How should I go about making best use of the girl´s number? Should I call the next day(tomorrow) and set up a meeting at a bar like nothing happened? Thanks!

[MiXX]

Easy. Introduce your drunk enemy to another girl. He has to focus his attention elsewhere instead of cock-blocking you. A distraction always works.

Now if you want to REALLY get rid of him, and be evil. Go tell another rough looking guy that the drunk guy was talking shit about him in front of women and that you can lure him to the bathroom. This will get the drunk guy a beatdown in the bathroom. You can then tell girls you saw him making out with another girl and they left. Hey, serves him right fir being a cock-blocking douchebag!!!



Mixx

[flashbang]

Thanks Mixx! I´ve got the number and I think they´re going to the same club tonight. I´m looking to do some damage and I´ll keep your tips in mind in case the same douchebag decides to attend too(it´s a very small city). Do you think I should call her and arrange for us to go there or just play it cool and probably meet them there?

[MiXX]

(03-17-2011 08:48 AM)flashbang Wrote:  

Thanks Mixx! I´ve got the number and I think they´re going to the same club tonight. I´m looking to do some damage and I´ll keep your tips in mind in case the same douchebag decides to attend too(it´s a very small city). Do you think I should call her and arrange for us to go there or just play it cool and probably meet them there?

I would call her and try to get her alone elsewhere. Say you want to do something spontaneous and exciting instead of the same boring club, and you felt she was the adventurous type. Then find some place different to take her to....maybe another lounge, followed by a venue change to a beach, yoga class, salsa class..be creative. Tell her you've won some passes for salsa/yoga or whatever class/event and it has to happen tonight.

No matter what happens, avoid the same situation of you trying to win her away from anyone, and she is just focusing on you instead.

Mixx

[Gmac]

(03-16-2011 09:55 PM)flashbang Wrote:  

(A) How should I deal with a drunk male cockblocker of this sort in the future, keeping in mind that they already know him through being in the same study program
(B) How should I go about making best use of the girl´s number? Should I call the next day(tomorrow) and set up a meeting at a bar like nothing happened? Thanks!

In my experience the best way to deal with these idiots is to befriend them and control the conversation just as you would with a female cockblocker, or as Mixx suggested introduce him to another girl. Getting angry and escalating is the last thing you want to do because you'll screw yourself over with his friends (the other girls).

If you can bounce locations or get her to another level of the club you can avoid him completely. If you can't distract him wait till he's getting a drink or at the bathroom to make your move.

[flashbang]

Thanks Gmac! need to keep the cool more next time and talk to the guy rather than ignore him. That way if he is rude he looks like a fool, if he gets aggressive he gets beaten up and if he talks he just gets tooled. Update: Gave her a call today as Mixx suggested and it seems that they went to their place anyway last night and feel embarrassed that they were gonna go back with him. She says they really wanna meet me again tomorrow, so things will be played on my terms this time. Last night may have actually served as a DHV in my favour. Thanks again!

[nguyenimproved]

hey dude.
good luck with that chick.

i'm pretty much a noob at this caper as well.
but one thing i think i do a lot which fucked me up was letting my temper show when cock-blockers got involved.

when these cock-blockers see that they can get to you it's hard to regain the upper hand.

i'm not machiavellian enough to manipulate people into doing my will as of yet
(which a lot of game revolves around i think)
so for the moment i a plan to work on keeping my composure enough to not allow myself to fall into their
obvious ploys at getting me riled up.

anyway u've probably already gone past the need for this post but good luck anyways.

[Samseau]

How's your AMOG game?

http://www.seductiontuition.com/tyler-du...ctics.html

Some of Tyler's I've personally field tested:

Quote:

AMOG: (gets in your face)
PUA: (don't answer.. just SIT there quiet.. the more he says stuff to you, the more he's TRYING.. talking too long without an answer is QUALIFYING yourself.. so if he keeps trying to out-alpha you, and you don't answer, eventually he looks beta because he tried too hard to get your attention.. another trick is to make "let's get out of here" girlcode with your eyes to the girls (mimmick what they do to eachother when you do a bad set), and they'll leave with you)

Easy shit here.

Quote:

AMOG: (gets in your face)
PUA: dude, you're an alphamale..
AMOG: what's that..
PUA: you know, like the leader of the pack.. you call the shots.. you can put your hands on guys you don't know, cause you're alpha..
(fucks up his whole 'look cool' game, because you've characterized all his manneurisms, so anything he does to look alpha makes him appear to be qualifying himself too you.. if he continues, just say "see... alphamale.. whoa tiger, I can't mess")

I've used this once against a Jersey-shore type... guy was 30 pounds heavier than me, and I completely shut him down, right in front of his friends (including girls), who laughed at him.

I said it like this, however:

"Dude, you're totally the alpha male around here... how'd you get to be so alpha man? I think I saw you on the discovery channel once." Boy did he get pissed off.

[UgSlayer]

Being friendly is always the best go-to option with any guy. But that doesn't mean being submissive or a pushover. Assume the friendship.

I just saw a clip of jersey shore where the one guy with a girlfriend (guy 1) was pissed at another housemate(guy 2) and arguing with him. They showed a clip of the girlfriend, Sammy, crying to guy 2 because she thought her boyfriend was cheating, which she found out through a letter. Basically guy 1 confirmed the cheating by saying whatever the letter says is right. So fast forward to the present and guy 1 accused guy 2 of stabbing him in the back and not being friends.

Guy 2 first goes "we are friends. we're all friends". Guy 1 doesn't let up and eventually guy 2 just apologizes to stop i from escalating (no fear, just going the path of least resistance) and it seems to throw guy 1 off and they end up hugging it out.

What I took away from that was if someone is being aggressive and hostile towards you, if you are completely unreactive to his aggressive, shittalk, whatever, and treat him like a child, you will always come out unscathed, especially if you have no emotional attachment to it. Basically not giving a fuck if you win or lose.

Guys will usually only cockblock if they feel disrespected or if they are insecure and trying to take it out on you/project it on you.

I think you definitely lost it when you told him to shut the fuck up. Instead, you should have been friendly to him, and put out some good vibes and the girls would have picked that up. Even if he remained aggressive, they probably would have ditched him if you are unaffected and still having fun/bringing value.

I think all this amog stuff can fuck with a guy's head. It did and still does with me at times, and filtering out that bullshit and moving to your own rhythm actually makes you a lot more attractive.

[Screwston]

Why do guys even cock block? That's some female shit. Ill never understand it.

[flashbang]

(03-22-2011 11:05 PM)UgSlayer Wrote:  

Being friendly is always the best go-to option with any guy. But that doesn't mean being submissive or a pushover. Assume the friendship.

I just saw a clip of jersey shore where the one guy with a girlfriend (guy 1) was pissed at another housemate(guy 2) and arguing with him. They showed a clip of the girlfriend, Sammy, crying to guy 2 because she thought her boyfriend was cheating, which she found out through a letter. Basically guy 1 confirmed the cheating by saying whatever the letter says is right. So fast forward to the present and guy 1 accused guy 2 of stabbing him in the back and not being friends.

Guy 2 first goes "we are friends. we're all friends". Guy 1 doesn't let up and eventually guy 2 just apologizes to stop i from escalating (no fear, just going the path of least resistance) and it seems to throw guy 1 off and they end up hugging it out.

What I took away from that was if someone is being aggressive and hostile towards you, if you are completely unreactive to his aggressive, shittalk, whatever, and treat him like a child, you will always come out unscathed, especially if you have no emotional attachment to it. Basically not giving a fuck if you win or lose.

Guys will usually only cockblock if they feel disrespected or if they are insecure and trying to take it out on you/project it on you.

I think you definitely lost it when you told him to shut the fuck up. Instead, you should have been friendly to him, and put out some good vibes and the girls would have picked that up. Even if he remained aggressive, they probably would have ditched him if you are unaffected and still having fun/bringing value.

I think all this amog stuff can fuck with a guy's head. It did and still does with me at times, and filtering out that bullshit and moving to your own rhythm actually makes you a lot more attractive.

You're right on the button man. I lost my cool and it cost me but I'm wiser for it now. Next time, short of a guy throwing a punch or something like that I'll just keep my cool and amog him. He got a free pass for being an asshole to me because they already knew him but I had only met them in the same party so when I snapped they took his side. It's back to the drawing board now and I hope this thread helps others here to remember to seem unreactive because that in itself is a DHV.

[UgSlayer]

(03-23-2011 03:11 AM)houston Wrote:  

Why do guys even cock block? That's some female shit. Ill never understand it.

Most guys who cockblock maliciously are ones who don't get laid. Rarely ever happens to me anymore but it used to. (It's funny how as you become more relaxed and more attractive, the "tactics" pickup teaches are really not as applicable) I used to get really pissed at this type of thing but I feel sorry for them and a bit annoyed (like a kid brother trying to get my attention when I am paying attention to something more important) rather than angry nowadays.

[Imthattypeofguy]

It's really easy to get rid of a drunk cock blocker in a nightclubs/bars. I travel solo to foreign countries and I always go out.

Rule # 1 - Befriend a couple bouncers and the bartender. Talk shit with them and throughout the night buy them a 1-2 drinks. When ever you have run across a cock blocker just tell the bouncer that the drunk dude is bothering you and you need for him to leave. I guarantee you he will throw his drunk a$$ out.

Plus when you return to the club/bar. They will find you a table and even will introduce you to a few of the girls in the place.

Rule # 2 - Never get drunk in there and turn into that cock blocker

[Roosh]

Sounds like the girls were on the cockblocker's side, limiting your options. I don't think there is much you could've done.

As for Tyler's AMOG techniques, they seem to come from a guy who has never been in a fight. Letting a guy get in your face that close is a recipe to get sucker punched.

[Samseau]

(04-16-2011 08:49 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Sounds like the girls were on the cockblocker's side, limiting your options. I don't think there is much you could've done.

As for Tyler's AMOG techniques, they seem to come from a guy who has never been in a fight. Letting a guy get in your face that close is a recipe to get sucker punched.

If he hits you then the bouncers throw him out and you keep the girls

Obviously, trying to steal girls that came with him isn't going to work. AMOG'ing is only worth it for girls you have a chance

[oldnemesis]

(04-16-2011 09:39 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

If he hits you then the bouncers throw him out and you keep the girls

It depends. If a dude is 30lbs heavier than you and practiced boxing, girls may be out of your interest for quite some time.