Hey everyone, I'm on my fifth day in Bucharest and I have some initial impressions and insights and those familiar with this country and its girls, hopefully you can chime in with helpful suggestions. There's good news and some bad news, but first about myself:
I'm in my mid 30's, decent looking Asian guy who looks 25. People always think I'm a college student. I've spent a lot of time in Poland, with some brief stints in Ukraine, Czech Republic, and Iceland. I dabble a bit in day game, night game and some internet dating sites as well as social circle if I can get some good integration. Just to see what works best. I have a full time remote job, so a week of me staying in a place equals to about 2 days devoted to gaming. Anyways, here goes:
Pros
- Romanian girls look pretty good. Romania is as close as you can get to brunette paradise. They have pretty faces and slim bodies, some are even tall. Kind of like a blend of east europe and latin look. Some girls will look more Mediterranean and others more east european. There are a few real blondes here and there, and while most girls won't have the striking aesthetic pop of light hair and blue eyes, I don't have any complaints really.
- For a capital city in a large sized european country, there aren't many foreigners at all. I feel quite exotic and girls do give me prolonged glances quite often, almost on par with what I get in a smaller city in Poland. For some reason, Bucharest is this major city yet it gets overlooked and its great. The girls even smile at me and they seem pretty sweet overall.
- People are really into partying. I was in old town on weekdays and even on a Sunday, there were clubs and good sized crowds. You can pretty much get nightlife action and see lots of hotties any night of the week. And most of theca clubs are conveniently centered in old town.
- I'm getting better looking prospects than I did in Poland. Like the girls who are already showing interest and changing numbers and contacts with me are basically all at least on the 7 or 8 level. I wish I can show photos, but you just gotta just hear me out on this. In Poland, the easy access came mostly from 6s and some 7s. Poland just does't have that many solid cuties, mostly decent, kind of cute girls. The hot polish girls take some effort it seems.
Cons
- Bucharest is a seriously dirty city. There's dog shit, bird shit and decaying infrastructure. It can be a pretty nice city if the caretakers put in some effort. It has some nice historical buildings and the old town can be pleasing if they just restored it and kept it tidy. Still it's not such a bad thing cause its not so attractive to tourists. You can't even find a tourist info shop in the old town.
- English is decent, but still not great. most girls can communicate in English, but you can tell they don't it too often. English fluency might be better than Poland, but not by much.
- People seem to be touchy feely friendly in a way that's common to latin cultures. Yet at the same time they won't do much to help out a stranger. And seem kind of pissy when you want them to just provide basic service. Whereas in Poland, people will go out of their way to help you and make sure everything is ok. But poles won't touch your arm or your back when you're introduced or getting acquainted. Kind of a weird contrast.
- OK, so here's the big hitch about Romania: there's a huge degree of slut shaming pervasive in their culture. I noticed right away that girls at clubs tend to dance together in groups of 6 or 7 girls and it would stay that way for most of the night, with guys just standing around or lurking and waiting for an something good to happen -- and it does't.. I recognize this intrinsic fear of how their friends might think because its eerily similar to what goes on in Asian American clubs.
I don't know if its conservativeness, but there is an oddly religious underpinning to the society. And even though they are eastern orthodox, it seems to have the same effect as what you see in Catholic countries. Tight social groups and one night stands don't really happen. You're going to have to get the girl on a date and take it from there.
Roosh's travel data sheet on Romania is pretty spot on and helped me recognize the patterns and what i had to do. I literally had to stand around and wait for an opening, like when a girl goes for a drink by herself or to the restroom. Separating her from her gal pal group is nearly impossible when her social circle is entrenched in partying and socializing.
- On the flip side, there is a benefit. In Poland, for instance, meeting a girl for a brief moment and getting her number is basically worthless since other guys will be able to deepen their rapport, so you'll easily be forgotten.
But since a Romanian girl really can't go full seduction with you upon first meeting you, you can just talk 5 minutes, get her number and follow up. A lot of times, the girl will respond and go out with you. Kind of amazing actually. That happened with the first cutie I met, we barely chatted for like 2 minutes. And like Roosh mentioned, she made an excuse for us to exchange contacts. We've chatted and have a date set up later this week.
My huge fail
Even with that knowledge I still utterly messed up a few hours ago. I had this cutie eyeing me and we danced close, she touched me very affectionately, and she seemed into it for like 40 minutes. I stupidly followed my natural instinct and stayed in the set and tried to tough it out.
Even though I sensed I wasn't going to isolate ultimately, I still clung on just thinking maybe something will happen. Usually in Poland one thing can lead to another and so its worth a shot at least.
Instead, the initial positive energy began to wane and eventually petered out. She started paying more attention to her friends instead of me and even kind of started to freeze me out a bit, because I was just lingering and hoping at that point. I knew I screwed up when I asked her what her plans were for tomorrow and she replied "You have my Facebook and you can message me, I don't know yet." Basically, it was her way of saying, let's just pick up where we left off tomorrow or at another time. I should have just left right there, while I was still kind of on a high note. Oh well, lesson learned.
Anyone have some experiences with how to navigate how best to optimize your chances? Also, is there any way to crack these damn social circles? I just hate having to resort to just lurking around and waiting for a window of opportunity to open up. Seems so powerless.
I'm in my mid 30's, decent looking Asian guy who looks 25. People always think I'm a college student. I've spent a lot of time in Poland, with some brief stints in Ukraine, Czech Republic, and Iceland. I dabble a bit in day game, night game and some internet dating sites as well as social circle if I can get some good integration. Just to see what works best. I have a full time remote job, so a week of me staying in a place equals to about 2 days devoted to gaming. Anyways, here goes:
Pros
- Romanian girls look pretty good. Romania is as close as you can get to brunette paradise. They have pretty faces and slim bodies, some are even tall. Kind of like a blend of east europe and latin look. Some girls will look more Mediterranean and others more east european. There are a few real blondes here and there, and while most girls won't have the striking aesthetic pop of light hair and blue eyes, I don't have any complaints really.
- For a capital city in a large sized european country, there aren't many foreigners at all. I feel quite exotic and girls do give me prolonged glances quite often, almost on par with what I get in a smaller city in Poland. For some reason, Bucharest is this major city yet it gets overlooked and its great. The girls even smile at me and they seem pretty sweet overall.
- People are really into partying. I was in old town on weekdays and even on a Sunday, there were clubs and good sized crowds. You can pretty much get nightlife action and see lots of hotties any night of the week. And most of theca clubs are conveniently centered in old town.
- I'm getting better looking prospects than I did in Poland. Like the girls who are already showing interest and changing numbers and contacts with me are basically all at least on the 7 or 8 level. I wish I can show photos, but you just gotta just hear me out on this. In Poland, the easy access came mostly from 6s and some 7s. Poland just does't have that many solid cuties, mostly decent, kind of cute girls. The hot polish girls take some effort it seems.
Cons
- Bucharest is a seriously dirty city. There's dog shit, bird shit and decaying infrastructure. It can be a pretty nice city if the caretakers put in some effort. It has some nice historical buildings and the old town can be pleasing if they just restored it and kept it tidy. Still it's not such a bad thing cause its not so attractive to tourists. You can't even find a tourist info shop in the old town.
- English is decent, but still not great. most girls can communicate in English, but you can tell they don't it too often. English fluency might be better than Poland, but not by much.
- People seem to be touchy feely friendly in a way that's common to latin cultures. Yet at the same time they won't do much to help out a stranger. And seem kind of pissy when you want them to just provide basic service. Whereas in Poland, people will go out of their way to help you and make sure everything is ok. But poles won't touch your arm or your back when you're introduced or getting acquainted. Kind of a weird contrast.
- OK, so here's the big hitch about Romania: there's a huge degree of slut shaming pervasive in their culture. I noticed right away that girls at clubs tend to dance together in groups of 6 or 7 girls and it would stay that way for most of the night, with guys just standing around or lurking and waiting for an something good to happen -- and it does't.. I recognize this intrinsic fear of how their friends might think because its eerily similar to what goes on in Asian American clubs.
I don't know if its conservativeness, but there is an oddly religious underpinning to the society. And even though they are eastern orthodox, it seems to have the same effect as what you see in Catholic countries. Tight social groups and one night stands don't really happen. You're going to have to get the girl on a date and take it from there.
Roosh's travel data sheet on Romania is pretty spot on and helped me recognize the patterns and what i had to do. I literally had to stand around and wait for an opening, like when a girl goes for a drink by herself or to the restroom. Separating her from her gal pal group is nearly impossible when her social circle is entrenched in partying and socializing.
- On the flip side, there is a benefit. In Poland, for instance, meeting a girl for a brief moment and getting her number is basically worthless since other guys will be able to deepen their rapport, so you'll easily be forgotten.
But since a Romanian girl really can't go full seduction with you upon first meeting you, you can just talk 5 minutes, get her number and follow up. A lot of times, the girl will respond and go out with you. Kind of amazing actually. That happened with the first cutie I met, we barely chatted for like 2 minutes. And like Roosh mentioned, she made an excuse for us to exchange contacts. We've chatted and have a date set up later this week.
My huge fail
Even with that knowledge I still utterly messed up a few hours ago. I had this cutie eyeing me and we danced close, she touched me very affectionately, and she seemed into it for like 40 minutes. I stupidly followed my natural instinct and stayed in the set and tried to tough it out.
Even though I sensed I wasn't going to isolate ultimately, I still clung on just thinking maybe something will happen. Usually in Poland one thing can lead to another and so its worth a shot at least.
Instead, the initial positive energy began to wane and eventually petered out. She started paying more attention to her friends instead of me and even kind of started to freeze me out a bit, because I was just lingering and hoping at that point. I knew I screwed up when I asked her what her plans were for tomorrow and she replied "You have my Facebook and you can message me, I don't know yet." Basically, it was her way of saying, let's just pick up where we left off tomorrow or at another time. I should have just left right there, while I was still kind of on a high note. Oh well, lesson learned.
Anyone have some experiences with how to navigate how best to optimize your chances? Also, is there any way to crack these damn social circles? I just hate having to resort to just lurking around and waiting for a window of opportunity to open up. Seems so powerless.
