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11-09-2014, 01:47 PM
So, I've always found it easy to be on 'friend' terms with girls. Historically, it's been a lot harder for me to be in the 'romantic interest' zone. One of the lessons I've learned over the last few years- and the PUA stuff has been incredibly valuable to me, so I really appreciate you all- is that it almost never pays to try and become friends with a girl and later try to ask her out. So I've gotten better at trying to make clear my intentions from the beginning, ask girls out on unambiguous dates, compliment their appearances, and generally try to communicate my romantic interest.
Sometimes, however, I *can't* convey romantic interest early on, because when I first meet a girl she's in a relationship. So the challenge is, when she later breaks up and is single, how do I transition from being on 'friend' terms to conveying that I'm interested and asking her out? This is in some ways more of a challenge for me than meeting someone at a bar or something, getting their number, and then asking them out.
The actual situation I'm thinking of right now: about a year ago I met a girl who worked in the greenhouse where I do my research. She later quit her job and is working somewhere else, so there's no 'don't date where you work' awkwardness. I friended her on FB about a month or two after meeting, and we had a flurry of messaging back and forth a bunch- at some point she gave me her number because we had talked about hanging out (with other friends) over the weekend. Just on friend terms though, because she had a boyfriend at the time. I saw her around fairly frequently because she's a student here and involved with the horticulture club- they meet in the greenhouse where I work so I occasionally go to events. We've chatted periodically since then, and have a few mutual friends in common.
About a month ago she broke up with her boyfriend (on FB). I've hesitated to message or ask her out, because I want to think about the best strategy to improve my chances. I saw her in the building and said hello about a week ago, and we've exchanged a bit more FB chatter, she's occasionally 'liked' things I post, and so forth. This girl is *amazingly* cute, looks kind of like a cheerleader. She's 19 but I think likes somewhat older guys (her last boyfriend was mid-20s) so I figure I could at least give it a chance.
What do you guys recommend I do?
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11-09-2014, 01:57 PM
Too much investment.
You have her number text her to join you out for a drink if you know she drinks. If you know she doesn't drink go out and do something fun and somewhat active. Dancing never hurts.
If she's attracted enough she'll say yes or offer an alternative.
If not you've known her long enough she's already put you in the will or will not fuck bin.
The problem guys like you have is you aren't willing to let it sink in that attraction with girls is completely front loaded. Within a half hour of spending time with you (even in a group context) they know if they want to fuck you or not. This is why vibe, clothing, and first impressions are important.
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11-09-2014, 02:02 PM
Quote: (11-09-2014 01:57 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:
Too much investment.
You have her number text her to join you out for a drink if you know she drinks. If you know she doesn't drink go out and do something fun and somewhat active. Dancing never hurts.
If she's attracted enough she'll say yes or offer an alternative.
If not you've known her long enough she's already put you in the will or will not fuck bin.
The problem guys like you have is you aren't willing to let it sink in that attraction with girls is completely front loaded. Within a half hour of spending time with you (even in a group context) they know if they want to fuck you or not. This is why vibe, clothing, and first impressions are important.
Oh, I entirely agree!
The problem is I don't KNOW if she's attracted to me or not, because when we first met she had a boyfriend.
But I generally agree with you- female attraction isn't ENTIRELY front loaded, but it is MOSTLY front loaded. Which is why it's a waste of time trying to get women to be attracted to you- usually they're either attracted or not.
I definitely agree with you re: clothing and first impressions, which is why I've started trying to dress more snazzy ever when going to work, to help with day game.[/i]
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11-09-2014, 02:12 PM
Just ask her out already.
It's not like she's your real friend anyway.
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11-09-2014, 02:21 PM
Quote: (11-09-2014 02:16 PM)texas Wrote:
Recently, I found out a hot girl I used to work with had gotten out of her long-term relationship. I sent her a FB message because she had changed her profile pic, and just said "Hot pic, NAME. What's new with you?"
It played out like this:
Her: Thanks!!! ) Well my bf and I broke up a while ago. What's new with you?
Me: Whoa...that is interesting
Me: Nothing, just back in the US and getting a new business started
Her: Yeah!! Why so interesting? LOL
Me: Well personally I always like it when hot girls are single
Her: Haha well damn that's a good answer!
Her: We should hang out...
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Maybe try something like that man. Hopefully you have had no interactions with her since and she doesn't know that you know she is single. I was flirty with this girl in the work setting, like I am with every attractive girl, but there was no indication of interest prior when she was with somebody (seems like it kind of matches your situation)
Whatever you do, do something man. Ask her out, tell her you just broke up and are looking for some fun, anything. Don't let this be a missed opportunity.
That's good advice! We're chatting over FB right now actually, she just mentioned her social life is lame and had a boring weekend. I suppose I could ask about her boyfriend, e.g. "how's your rapper boyfriend doing these days?" and hopefully she'll mention she is single which gives me an opening.
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11-09-2014, 03:09 PM
Quote: (11-09-2014 02:43 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:
No more FB chat, you're dropping a hammer on your balls without even knowing it.
You know my average number of texts or online messages I exhange before I bang them?
Maybe 4-5 on average many time less even if that spans 2 dates to get the bang.
You can't put your penis in a vagina unless it is right in front of you!
yes, that's always been my problem, I'm getting better though!
I'll take your advice and ask her out sometime today.
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11-09-2014, 08:46 PM
Quote: (11-09-2014 02:16 PM)texas Wrote:
Recently, I found out a hot girl I used to work with had gotten out of her long-term relationship. I sent her a FB message because she had changed her profile pic, and just said "Hot pic, NAME. What's new with you?"
It played out like this:
Her: Thanks!!! ) Well my bf and I broke up a while ago. What's new with you?
Me: Whoa...that is interesting
Me: Nothing, just back in the US and getting a new business started
Her: Yeah!! Why so interesting? LOL
Me: Well personally I always like it when hot girls are single
Her: Haha well damn that's a good answer!
Her: We should hang out...
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Maybe try something like that man. Hopefully you have had no interactions with her since and she doesn't know that you know she is single. I was flirty with this girl in the work setting, like I am with every attractive girl, but there was no indication of interest prior when she was with somebody (seems like it kind of matches your situation)
Whatever you do, do something man. Ask her out, tell her you just broke up and are looking for some fun, anything. Don't let this be a missed opportunity.
this is good, pursue the girl and play stupid about her being out of a relationship. If she brings it up you know she is giving you a green light, if she doesn't just pursue anyway.
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11-10-2014, 05:28 PM
Rule #4 of the Friendzone: The Friendzone knows no qualifiers.
It doesn't care why you're in the friendzone.
If you just "knew her" when she was in relationship, that'd be one thing.
"...when I first meet a girl she's in a relationship..." - potential lover
"...how do I transition from being on 'friend' terms to..." - friendzone
You don't transition her.
There are girls around my social circle who I've banged after "knowing" them a little. So I guess it depends on your definition of "friend". I wouldn't call it transitioning though. I'd say we just got drunk and fucked one night...ya know, a couple people around the same social circle.
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11-11-2014, 03:05 AM
"I'll take your advice and ask her out sometime today." Did you do it
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11-12-2014, 05:44 PM
kino (even before she was single)
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11-22-2014, 01:12 PM
Quote: (11-11-2014 03:05 AM)L M McCoy Wrote:
"I'll take your advice and ask her out sometime today." Did you do it
Haha thank you for asking! On this front, nothing to report yet. I said I was a recovering p*ssy, didn't I? I've seen her a bunch of times since then, complimented her outfits, etc., she looks great as ever. She's been hanging out a bunch with the ex-boyfriend she just broke up with six weeks ago- I just got to meet him the other day and he friended me on FB. I'm hoping they don't get back together before I can ask her out- which I REALLY need to do, like now.
On another front though, I'm supposed to meet up for coffee or lunch or something with the cute 18-year old checkout girl from the grocery store that I like. I got her number a few weeks ago and we chat whenever I'm at her store, yesterday I was joking about our conversation being Not Safe For Work (we were talking about drug/alcohol experiences), and she suggested meeting up for coffee when she's off work. It's not a date since it's during the day time, but I hope to take advantage of the opportunity to ask her on a real date. Let you know how it goes.
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11-22-2014, 01:27 PM
^ Jesus Christ.
Who cares if you meet her in the day time? It's a date. Touch her, make her laugh, deep eye contact when you can. Go for a kiss at some point.
Your dating mentality is about the same as saying:
"Hey let's play some basketball guys! I'll play in a wheelchair though because that's when I'm comfortable! Hey before we start playing... have any tips to make me better?"
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01-17-2015, 12:26 PM
Quote: (11-11-2014 03:05 AM)L M McCoy Wrote:
"I'll take your advice and ask her out sometime today." Did you do it
Alas, my waiting killed me. I ended up being too much of a damned wuss. After about two months of being single, she got back with her ex-boyfriend, and they seem pretty happy together again. Lesson learned: *don't be a p*ssy*.
If they break up again (or if any other 'taken' girl I have a crush on ever ends up becoming single), though, I'll know not to miss my chance a second time.
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01-17-2015, 11:24 PM
Quote: (11-09-2014 02:43 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:
You can't put your penis in a vagina unless it is right in front of you!
That is the fundamental tenet of my philosophy of game in almost those exact words.
"Pussies don't get pussy" is another one as the OP has learned.
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01-17-2015, 11:37 PM
Seems like ur pedestalizing women waaaay to much.
Why Dont you consciously go out and be an asshole to random people? Then do some approaches (I know, its hard) but its all good. Desensitize yourself a bit.