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Shia LaBeouf Raped During Performance Art Piece
11-28-2014, 10:21 PM
Our society has jumped the shark
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Shia LaBeouf Raped During Performance Art Piece
11-28-2014, 10:34 PM
I for one think this is great. Nothing can show the blatant hypocrisy behind rape hysteria better than a guy trying to pull the same stunt.
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Shia LaBeouf Raped During Performance Art Piece
11-28-2014, 11:30 PM
I have no idea what to think and honestly I couldn't care less (or in American English: I could care less).
But indeed, from Yes Means Yes to Rape By Fraud laws, the best way to combat the insanity is not by appeal to logic and reason, but by filing these frivolous but technically correct charges. Men won't do this though, because we can't just throw a girl under the bus for the principle. Even though women don't have the same honor.
It's the same theme here as elsewhere: We don't play dirty against people that do, and thus we lose. You have to be comfortable with getting mud on your hands to win.
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Shia LaBeouf Raped During Performance Art Piece
11-28-2014, 11:33 PM
Think of all the sympathy poosy he might get.
"I was raped. Please show me again what real love making looks like," Shia LaBeouf
"And forgive me if I don't call you after. I'm still trying to learn to love again," Shia LaBeouf
"Oh, and could you bring three dates for my friends?" Shia LaBeouf
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Shia LaBeouf Raped During Performance Art Piece
11-29-2014, 12:36 AM
I have no idea on this either.
On the one hand, I support men coming forward and speaking when they are sexually assaulted. In some ways, I think men might benefit from a powerful celebrity coming forward to speak on this issue.
On the other hand, if we apply the same scrutiny to his claims we do to female rape claims they quickly fall apart. Why if she left in front of a line of people there to see him and the rumor went through the line did not one person tweet about it? Why didn't he say something at the time? Why was the crime never reported? It falls in the same unverifiable circumstantial area that many false female claims do.
I'll be curious to see how the media treats this. We all know what would happen if a comparable female celebrity claimed she was raped during a performance piece.
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Shia LaBeouf Raped During Performance Art Piece
11-29-2014, 01:20 AM
Quote: (11-28-2014 10:10 PM)Hedonistic Traveler Wrote:
Shia LaBeouf just came out and said that he was raped during his #IAmSorry performance art piece 9 months ago.
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One woman who came with her boyfriend, who was outside the door when this happened, whipped my legs for ten minutes and then stripped my clothing and proceeded to rape me. ...There were hundreds of people in line when she walked out with disheveled hair and smudged lipstick. It was no good, not just for me but her man as well. On top of that my girl (actress Mia Goth) was in line to see me, because it was Valentine's Day and I was living in the gallery for the duration of the event -- we were separated for five days, no communication. So it really hurt her as well, as I guess the news of it traveled through the line. When she came in she asked for an explanation, and I couldn't speak, so we both sat with this unexplained trauma silently. It was painful.
Apparently he was so committed to the art piece that he didn't say no, but because he didn't say "yes" it's rape!
Piers Morgan doesn't think so though, on his twitter he dismissed it as a "supposed 'rape' for cheap PR - utterly shameful".
There is even a little "victim-blaming" going on in the Jezebel comment section. I guess only chicks are allowed to make ridiculous claims.
Apparently the guy has gone off the deep-end recently, so I wouldn't be surprised if he made it up. It's be funny if it turned out to be a performance piece about false rape claims.
Of course if it is true I'd feel bad that he was taken advantage of, but I doubt it is.
Whipped his legs for 10 min.??
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Shia LaBeouf Raped During Performance Art Piece
11-29-2014, 02:42 PM
Does nobody take him seriously when he says "No"? She probably saw Transformers and didn't take any notice.
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Shia LaBeouf Raped During Performance Art Piece
11-30-2014, 04:21 PM
Now Piers Morgan has had his say.
Piers Morgan criticises Shia LaBeouf's "grotesque" rape allegation
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Writing on Twitter, Morgan said: "LaBeouf sat there with a paper bag on his head doing & saying nothing as he was 'raped' - because he was engaged in 'performance art'? BS."
He added: "No, I'm not 'victim blaming' Shia LaBeouf. I'm 'fake victim shaming'. He wasn't raped & his claim is a grotesque insult to real victims."
Discussing how two people allegedly backed up the allegation, Morgan said: "So 2 people let LaBeouf's supposed 'rapist' leave? This whole thing is repulsively offensive to real rape victims."
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11-30-2014, 05:17 PM
Ha I had too much to drink the day before thanksgiving and released at the dinner table that I was nearly raped by a fat girl a couple of yeara ago. My mom got pissed!
It is true that only girls can be raped. If a guy says he was raped (or nearly) its not taken seriously.
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Shia LaBeouf Raped During Performance Art Piece
12-01-2014, 06:30 AM
Shia Labouf looks like a skinnier version of Will Weaton.
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Shia LaBeouf Raped During Performance Art Piece
12-01-2014, 08:14 AM
Maybe Shia is an RVF member and is trying to troll everyone.
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Shia LaBeouf Raped During Performance Art Piece
12-05-2014, 01:56 PM
Piers Morgan...ugh. At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist, I am convinced Piers is a British agent, just to make sure that former British colonies (read: the entirety of the Anglosphere) would have the same social situation as they do in the UK.
And what's concurrent in the UK? Same thing.