[Que enspastic]

"White man exploits naive Jewish female; raises funds from vilifying poor African American men in NYC"

[mikado]

(10-29-2014 02:08 PM)mikado Wrote:  

There is an article about this on a French media

Dropped basically info about the double standards of females, the fact that no one who works on his/her appearance before going out of the house can say that he/she doesn't care about the others' opinion. The need for guys to work on their game, to maximize their appearance and respect rejections.

Unsurprisingly a female comes and throw at me names, calls me a jerk, frustrated guy, complains about being harassed, says that I don't know what it is, etc, and that I should shut up and let the big girls talk

Responded by showing how she was acting like a little girl, criticized her lack of originality in name calling, invoked my "black priviledge" by claiming to have been harassed in non sexual ways because of my skin color etc. And finaly, threw a WNB on her,and said goodbye.

Just LOL.

The girl deleted her comment.
Not surprised in the slightest.

[AneroidOcean]

From the Reddit posted:

   

[Dusty]

It looks like a minor shit storm is starting to brew about the racial undertones of this video. There's some brothas and SJW types taking notice on Twitter.

Also a SJW on Slate wrote an article decrying the racial targeting in the video (but being a SJW, she of course blames straight white males in the end).

[Yatagan]

I like how after 10 hours in a low class minority neighborhood the best they could come up with is 2 minutes that include at least one case of a street vendor trying to sell something as "sexual harassment".

[Dusty]

From an SJW writer on Slate:

Quote:

The Problem With That Catcalling Video
By Hanna Rosin
catcalling

On Tuesday, Slate and everyone else posted a video of a woman who is harassed more than 100 times by men as she walks around New York City for ten hours. More specifically, it’s a video of a young white woman who is harassed by mostly black and Latino men as she walks around New York City for ten hours. The one dude who turns around and says, “Nice,” is white, but the guys who do the most egregious things—like the one who harangues her, “Somebody’s acknowledging you for being beautiful! You should say thank you more,” or the one who follows her down the street too closely for five whole minutes—are not.

This doesn’t mean that the video doesn’t still effectively make its point, that a woman can’t walk down the street lost in her own thoughts, that men feel totally free to demand her attention and get annoyed when she doesn’t respond, that women can’t be at ease in a public space in the same way men can. But the video also unintentionally makes another point, that harassers are mostly black and Latino, and hanging out on the streets in midday in clothes that suggest they are not on their lunch break. As Roxane Gay tweeted, “The racial politics of the video are fucked up. Like, she didn’t walk through any white neighborhoods?”

The video is a collaboration between Hollaback!, an anti-street harassment organization, and the marketing agency Rob Bliss Creative. At the end they claim the woman experienced 100 plus incidents of harassment “involving people of all backgrounds.” Since that obviously doesn’t show up in the video, Bliss addressed it in a post. He wrote, “we got a fair amount of white guys, but for whatever reason, a lot of what they said was in passing, or off camera” or was ruined by a siren or other noise. The final product, he writes, “is not a perfect representation of everything that happened.” That may be true but if you find yourself editing out all the catcalling white guys, maybe you should try another take.

This is not the first time Bliss has been called out for race blindness. In a video to promote Grand Rapids, Michigan, he was criticized for making a city that’s a third minority and a quarter poor look like it was filled with people who have “been reincarnated from those peppy family-style 1970s musical acts from Disney World or Knott’s Berry Farm,” as a local blogger wrote.

Activism is never perfectly executed. We can just conclude that they caught a small slice of catcallers and lots of other men do it too. But if the point of this video is to teach men about the day-to-day reality of women, then this video doesn’t hit its target. The men who are sitting in their offices or in cafes watching this video will instead be able to comfortably assure themselves that they don’t have time to sit on hydrants in the middle of the day and can’t properly pronounce “mami.” They might do things to women that are worse than catcalling, but this is not their sin.

A really good video about catcalling actually already exists. In Jessica’s Feminized Atmosphere, Jessica Williams of the Daily Show covers the whole range of street harassment, from construction workers (of all races) to security guards to Wall Street “douche bags” to teenagers hanging on the corner. She and a group of women lay down pins on places in New York to avoid and by the end, the entire map is covered. There are race and class issues latent in her video, too. She is black, and the women she gathers for her discussion group are all races. But you don’t leave with that icky impression of a white woman under assault by the big bad city. Plus, she has the group demonstrate the armor they wear while walking down the street, which turns into a glorious mosaic of bitch face.

[Rutting Elephant]

The walking girl was just on Anderson Cooper. It's clear they had to carefully edit it to make her sound more articulate than the brutes on the street.

[Surreyman]

(10-29-2014 03:22 PM)mikado Wrote:  

(10-29-2014 02:08 PM)mikado Wrote:  

There is an article about this on a French media

Dropped basically info about the double standards of females, the fact that no one who works on his/her appearance before going out of the house can say that he/she doesn't care about the others' opinion. The need for guys to work on their game, to maximize their appearance and respect rejections.

Unsurprisingly a female comes and throw at me names, calls me a jerk, frustrated guy, complains about being harassed, says that I don't know what it is, etc, and that I should shut up and let the big girls talk

Responded by showing how she was acting like a little girl, criticized her lack of originality in name calling, invoked my "black priviledge" by claiming to have been harassed in non sexual ways because of my skin color etc. And finaly, threw a WNB on her,and said goodbye.

Just LOL.

The girl deleted her comment.
Not surprised in the slightest.

Well played.

SJWs need to have their 'privilege' checked every time we can.

Class privilege is one you can call them out on fairly easily. Just any time someone whose dad wears a tie criticises anything that's vaguely associated with the working class.

Nobody wins the privilege game, and luckily most SJWs are university educated and white, so it's fairly easy to play.

[The Lizard of Oz]

(10-29-2014 07:50 PM)Dusty Wrote:  

From an SJW writer on Slate:

Quote:

The Problem With That Catcalling Video
By Hanna Rosin
catcalling

...

Damn -- so many contortions to go through... it's not enough to just show "harassment", but you also need to get the right racial and class mix so that the overall impression is not "icky". And you need to ideally have a "woman of color", and show that "Wall Street douchebags" are among the worst offenders, and that construction workers "of all races" are equally to blame. So many boxes to check off...

One wonders, innocently, if they ever get tired of the whole Kabuki theater. But to wonder that is to betray a misunderstanding of how certain people become inspired and excited -- indeed, sexually excited -- by a totalizing ideology that is on the march, and are able to fluently execute that intricate and dismal dance.

[Yatagan]

(10-29-2014 10:16 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

(10-29-2014 07:50 PM)Dusty Wrote:  

From an SJW writer on Slate:

Quote:

The Problem With That Catcalling Video
By Hanna Rosin
catcalling

...

Damn -- so many contortions to go through... it's not enough to just show "harassment", but you also need to get the right racial and class mix so that the overall impression is not "icky". And you need to ideally have a "woman of color", and show that "Wall Street douchebags" are among the worst offenders, and that construction workers "of all races" are equally to blame. So many boxes to check off...

One wonders, innocently, if they ever get tired of the whole Kabuki theater. But to wonder that is to betray a misunderstanding of how certain people become inspired and excited -- indeed, sexually excited -- by a totalizing ideology that is on the march, and are able to fluently execute that intricate and dismal dance.

It's a perverse ideology driven by self-righteous narcissism and whom glorifies victimhood. If right wingers and all their other opponents were to disappear tomorrow, they'd fight each other over whom is the bigger true believer.

[Libertas]

As I've said before, Cultural Marxism is just coalition warfare against normal white men.

The hallmark of all coalitions is that they are unstable because while they have a common enemy, they have a different set of interests. They often squabble among themselves, and once their hegemonic enemy is defeated, they may fight each other. None of this is surprising.

This is something to keenly be aware of when it comes to GamerGate.

(10-29-2014 07:55 PM)Rutting Elephant Wrote:  

The walking girl was just on Anderson Cooper. It's clear they had to carefully edit it to make her sound more articulate than the brutes on the street.

Also not surprising. I could tell she was trash just by looking at her face.

[POASTER]

Every millennial girl is watching the video and posting stuff like "Wow. Just Wow. Can we talk about this?! This is NOT OK. How is this even a THING?"

Anyway on the serious note - this video just makes me have more respect for my Black and Latino brothas. In an age where everyone is so introverted they at least have the balls to do rudimentary greetings and catcalls, while the rest just make tweets or snap chats of seeing a hot girl go by.

[Kingsley Davis]

delete

[Dusty]

(10-29-2014 10:16 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

(10-29-2014 07:50 PM)Dusty Wrote:  

From an SJW writer on Slate:

Quote:

The Problem With That Catcalling Video
By Hanna Rosin
catcalling

...

Damn -- so many contortions to go through... it's not enough to just show "harassment", but you also need to get the right racial and class mix so that the overall impression is not "icky". And you need to ideally have a "woman of color", and show that "Wall Street douchebags" are among the worst offenders, and that construction workers "of all races" are equally to blame. So many boxes to check off...

One wonders, innocently, if they ever get tired of the whole Kabuki theater. But to wonder that is to betray a misunderstanding of how certain people become inspired and excited -- indeed, sexually excited -- by a totalizing ideology that is on the march, and are able to fluently execute that intricate and dismal dance.

Quote:

A petition posted on Change.org about Hannah Rosin’s Slate article:

Petitioning Hollaback!
Release the suppressed footage of white men harassing Shoshana Roberts so that Hanna Rosin can re-edit the video.

Petition by
Andros Pseudonymos

Hollaback! and Rob Bliss Creative recently released a video of an actress being repeatedly harassed by catcallers as she went about her business in New York City. Unfortunately, as Hanna Rosin has pointed out in her Slate piece entitled “The Problem with that Catcalling Video: The White Guys Were Edited Out,” the video was made in a way that reflects the omnipresent implicit racism of our day. In this instance, it didn’t depict a representative number of white men harassing the actress. We find the creators’ excuses insufficient.

We request–nay, insist–that the makers of the video release the suppressed footage, so that Ms. Rosin can either re-edit the video herself, or appoint a commission to perform the editing according to her standards. The video should reflect the reality that we and Ms. Rosin demand to see.

To:
Hollaback!
Rob Bliss Creative
Please release the suppressed video footage of white men harassing Shoshana Roberts, so that Hanna Rosen can re-edit the video in a more appropriate manner.
Sincerely,
[Your name]

[JWLZG]

http://elitedaily.com/humor/10-hours-wal...eo/820511/

I know it's an Elite Daily link, but the male counterpart to this video has just come out.

The responses on ED's FB are just painful.

[CRR]

If an ROK article is written, I think it would be important to include the fact that men are more likely to be murder victims (76.8%). Also, per a study in Canada, men are two times more likely be the victim of aggravated assault.

Found here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_crime

Also found this:

http://nortonbooks.typepad.com/everydays...ictim.html

I'm certainly no expert on this, links found simply by googling "assault victim by gender".

I think it would be important to show these poor, helpless little flowers that despite wearing tight clothing on their moderately to not too attractive bodies while walking through poor neighborhoods during daylight is far safer than, well, being a man in general.

[Benoit]

I don't watch SNL, so have no idea who Michael Che is, but this attempted hatchet job at Business Insider make me like him a lot.
http://www.businessinsider.com/michael-c...ng-2014-10

Quote:

Men including SNL star Michael Che, who took to Facebook to comment the following. He likens the catcalls to times when people come up to him on the street, recognizing him from SNL.


The amount of "likes" on the post is concerning, as were some of the comments from women and men below his statement.

He then posted to Facebook again, using a somewhat sarcastic approach.

Perfect response to concern trolls.
"sometimes I forget that I belong to all of you now, and that any thought I have should be filtered through you, and receive your approval"

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

I hate it that all the mainstream media, even the ones considered "conservative" like WSJ, are pushing this agenda hard.

[Sp5]

(10-30-2014 06:00 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

I hate it that all the mainstream media, even the ones considered "conservative" like WSJ, are pushing this agenda hard.

Maybe it's just to sell t-shirts, like this one I saw for sale in Dubai of all places:



Note - it's not a t-shirt just saying "Don't talk to me," it's a (large) t-shirt with a picture of a hot girl wearing a t-shirt saying "Don't talk to me."

So, if a 4 wears a t-shirt with a 9 wearing a t-shirt saying "Don't talk to me," is she appropriating the 9's beauty and attitude, or is she shielding herself from her own lack of beauty by preempting the approaches that weren't going to happen anyways? Most likely both, to feed the hamster.

Really, this is a work of art!

[Maciano]

Re Slate: I should have known this thing would eventually be about white guys. I actually didn't even notice (more like, didn't watch long enough) the majority catcallers were black guys.

So, a entrapment vid displaying black ghetto guys catcalling & selling street goods, lets progs infight because there are no white guys in the vid.

America is a race-obsessed society.

[pitt]

I am surprised nobody negged that bitch, now I understand why NY women are so full of themselves, every dude there is approaching at all times.

It's also interesting how big booty women tend to attract guys from lower classes, you hardly ever see big booty women with famous or rich guys. Well maybe there is a very small percentage of guys with money in the USA (blacks and hispanics) who are into that type of women but when you leave the states, the percentage of guys with money attracted to these type of women goes way LOWER. I think I am competing with bums.

[alexdagr81]

(10-30-2014 08:36 AM)pitt Wrote:  

I am surprised nobody negged that bitch, now I understand why NY women are so full of themselves, every dude there is approaching at all times.

It's also interesting how big booty women tend to attract guys from lower classes, you hardly ever see big booty women with famous or rich guys. Well maybe there is a very small percentage of guys with money in the USA (blacks and hispanics) who are into that type of women but when you leave the states, the percentage of guys with money attracted to these type of women goes way LOWER. I think I am competing with bums.

It's African culture. Europeans normally like slim and smaller women, while Africans normally like women on the fatter side.

[aSimpNamedBrokeback]

(10-30-2014 08:40 AM)alexdagr81 Wrote:  

It's African culture. Europeans normally like slim and smaller women, while Africans normally like women on the fatter side.

Replaces "African" with "thirsty" for the win.

[Parlay44]

Newsflash: They edited out all the white guys that opened her

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/viral-walking-n...le-1472453

[Dusty]

(10-30-2014 10:17 AM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

Newsflash: They edited out all the white guys that opened her

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/viral-walking-n...le-1472453

Quote:

When one user asked why the video does not appear to represent the actions of men from all backgrounds like it claims, Bliss said the numbers were more even during filming, but the New York noise pollution meant many of them were edited out of the final cut.

He added: "We got a fair amount of white guys, but for whatever reason, a lot of what they said was in passing, or off camera. So their scenes were a lot shorter, but the numbers themselves are relatively even.