Finally taking myself out of the game (marriage, baby). I’ve learned a lot over the years, and want to share a few things that I wish I knew before I started.
BACKGROUND
-Been in the game from 2010-2014 (5 years)
-Before that I was moderately successful but mainly in long term relationships
-I’m white, late 30’s, reasonably attractive and tall, but could stand to lose a couple pounds
-I’m only about Asian girls (not Asian-Americans but straight-up Asians), so this advice is geared toward those girls exclusively
LOGISTICS
-Live in New York where there are all manner of people to meet and many ways to do so
-Every year I take a trip to a different Asian country or countries
SUCCESS RATE
-5 years in the game: 123 girls. Approx. 24/year or one every 2 weeks (also countless makeouts and near successes, but not including those here).
-17 years before being in the game: 71 girls .Approx. 4/year or one every 3 months.
SECTION 1: ADVICE
This is basically a step-by-step guide to what I did. Techniques/results may vary, but I think this is a pretty good blueprint for a certain type of game.
TIP 1: DON’T GO FOR 9’S AND 10’S
It’s very rare you will get these girls, especially in Asia. I’m not saying don’t try, but the odds are against you. These girls will almost always be with people of their own kind (and usually don’t speak English). Instead, familiarize yourself with these three magic numbers: 6, 7, 8. Those are the girls to target.
My advice is to go hard for the 8’s, but don’t count out 7’s or even 6’s. Why? While a 6 might not be outwardly beautiful or overtly sexy, you have no idea what she’s like behind closed doors. Personally, I love love love girls who are a little bit shy – the kind you see in a Japanese porno, sitting there nervously while the guy starts taking off their clothes. The girl who even protests a little as you’re doing things to her. Not because you’re forcing her but because she’s just not used to it. These girls drive me crazy, and very few of them are 8’s or above, because all those girls have had guys after them for years and definitely have some experience.
Here are some examples of how a 6 can be great:
-In Japan, I took home an 18 year old girl with really large, perfect breasts. Her face was a 6 at best. Did it really matter?
-In Jakarta, I slept with a 22 year old virgin with giant tits, silky smooth skin and a super sweet disposition. She was average looking/kind of cute.
-Also in Jakarta I slept with a 19 year old with maybe a 6 face. But she was super tight and had killer long legs.
My point is that you shouldn’t get hung up on bedding only super hot girls. Again, you should certainly try, but there’s absolutely nothing wrong with sleeping with a variety of young, sweet, nubile girls who may or may not be beauty queens.
TIP 2: DON’T JUST GO TO CLUBS
Clubs can be fun, and are a necessity if you only have a couple days in a new place, but I personally find daygame to be much more effective. Coffee shops, book stores, subways and the street are where I meet most girls. If you’re traveling it’s actually quite easy because chances are you’re lost anyway, so an easy way to spark up a conversation is to ask for directions somewhere. You can also ask for recommendations for a good café, restaurant, etc. There are tons of things you can say, and actually what you say doesn’t really even matter; you can tell right away if the girl likes you or not. Overall, if you do daygame plus nightgame plus pipelining, you are sure to get some lays.
TIP 3: DON’T GO TO THE OBVIOUS PLACES
In every major city there’s an area or areas where a lot of hot girls congregate (Shibuya in Tokyo, for example). This is the last place you should go, as not only you but every other guy gaming girls will also be there. That means that in addition to lots of competition, the girls will be on their guard and not want to talk to you. Instead, find another place that still has a lot of foot traffic – train station, shopping/restaurant area, etc. – but is just slightly off the radar. While the quantity and quality might drop a bit, your chances of meeting girls who actually want to talk to you increases astronomically.
TIP 4: GET THE NUMBER AND GO
Sure you can sometimes get the insta-date, but most times you won’t. Most times if you keep talking to her you’ll end up saying something stupid and blow it. So just get the number (or Whatsapp contact or whatever) and go. Send them a message later that night telling them it was great to meet them. Then, after they reply, either that night or the next day, set up a time to meet. Don’t wait too long because you might only have a week or two there (whereas she has all the time in the world) so you need to secure the date fast.
TIP 5: DON’T SAY YOU ARE A VISITOR
It’s fine to say that you are new somewhere (hence the excuse to ask for directions and the need for the girl to help you with various things) but don’t say you’re a tourist. Say you just moved there or are planning to move there and are just scoping out the place. I usually say that I’m going to start work there in a few weeks or months, and am here temporarily to find an apartment, etc. This way the girl feels better about getting with you because she doesn’t think you’re just going to take off, but it also explains why after a week or so you you’re not going to be around. You can always say later that the job didn’t pan out.
TIP 6: GET AS MANY NUMBERS/DATES AS POSSIBLE
Don’t stop getting numbers, even after you’ve got a good amount. A lot of girls are flakes, and a lot of girls might not put out, so you need to always have a back-up (and a back-up for the back-up). There are times where I’ve literally scheduled 5 dates in one day. If you give yourself 2-3 hours for each, you should be fine. This really helped for example on my last night in Taiwan. I brought a girl back to my place but she wouldn’t have sex because she was on her period. An hour later I brought back another girl I’d scheduled a date with, and she ALSO was on her period. Finally, the third girl I brought home wasn’t, and it was a night to remember.
TIP 7: DON’T THROW OUT OLD NUMBERS
If all goes well you will get more numbers than you have time for. Once you leave make sure to keep in touch with some of these girls; you never know if you’ll be back or if they’ll visit your city. Plus, I can’t tell you how many times I met a girl visiting New York who was leaving the next day, or I met a girl in her country and I was leaving the next day. Definitely keep in contact with them, because the next time you visit (or they visit) you have an automatic in with them and getting a lay will be that much easier.
TIP 8: TRY AND SECURE THE LAY THE SAME NIGHT AS THE DATE
When it comes time for the date, make sure to choose a place (coffee shop, restaurant, bar) extremely close to where you are staying. Sometimes I even choose the place in my hotel. If she has somewhere she really, really wants to take you to, then you should probably just go with it, but otherwise be adamant that the place you’re going to bring her to will be amazing. Of course it’s not, but it doesn’t matter. Just be charming enough and she won’t care. Then, after you have a drink or meal, figure out a way to get them back to your place. Watching a movie or TV is always good. You can also say that you’re having a problem with the a.c. and the instructions aren’t in your language and you need help. The reason doesn’t matter so much as long as you can get her there.
TIP 9: BE PERSISTENT (BUT NOT AGGRESSIVE)
Once you’re there, try and make her feel comfortable with some small talk. But as soon as you can, try and get her sitting next to you on the couch or – even better – bed. Turn on the TV and pretend to watch for a while. Slowly start touching her, and get as close to her as possible without freaking her out. Then go for the kiss. If she accepts, slowly escalate until you get what you want. If she stops you, take a step back, shift the conversation to something neutral, then after a while try again. Here you should follow the ABC rule: Always Be Closing. You should always be moving forward, one way or another. If you get stuck at a certain point, recalibrate. For example, sometimes a kiss can actually be TOO intimate, so instead try kissing her neck. I’ve also noticed that the natural progression of first base to second to third doesn’t always apply in Asia. Why? A lot of Asian girls have small breasts and are self conscious about it. So if you’re stuck at first, try jumping to third and see what happens. You might be surprised.
TIP 10: DON’T FORGET TO HAVE FUN
While some of this is certainly stressful, remember that what you’re doing is pretty freaking amazing and you need to enjoy yourself. When you’re out there scoping out girls, sizing them up and then going in for the kill, it’s essentially like hunting. It’s primal. As someone who abhors actual hunting (I’m a vegetarian) this is as close as I get to the real thing. And it’s a total rush, every time.
*BONUS TIP: YOUR APPEARANCE
This should go without saying, but before you go out to meet girls or go on dates with them you need to look your best. However, your best doesn’t need to be something outside of your comfort zone – a suit, for example, or some kind of inane peacocking. If you don’t feel comfortable you’re not going to be confident and you’re not going to succeed. My advice is to be yourself, but your BEST self. Whatever style you rock, make sure your clothes are clean and newish and that you’ve showered and all that. It is unbelievable to me how many guys don’t do this and still expect to score. The worst are the backpackers and English teachers, who you will see all over Asia, dressed in shorts and stained t-shirts, slobbering over any girl in their vicinity. Standing out from these guys is super easy, provided you put in a little effort.
SECTION 2: SPECIFIC RESULTS
TRAVELS
2010: Japan, 1 month: 5 girls (7’s: 2; 6’s: 3)
This was my first time traveling while gaming so was a little rusty at first but ended up with a reasonable amount of lays.
2011: China and Taiwan, 6 weeks: 11 girls (8’s: 1; 7’s: 4; 6’s: 5; 5’s: 1)
China was really hard at first but got easier over time; Taiwan was a lot easier. The one 5 was my last day there and I just wanted to sleep with one more girl. I literally met her on the street and asked her if she wanted to ‘watch a movie’ at my hotel. The time I met her to the time we had sex was under an hour.
2012: Tokyo, Bangkok, Singapore, 3 weeks: 7 girls (9’s: 1; 8’s: 1; 7’s: 2; 6’s: 3)
To be fair, 2 of the girls I already banged in New York, but trip was worth it for the 8 in Bangkok and 9 in Singapore, one from pipelining and the other from Starbucks.
2013: Jakarta, 2 weeks: 9 girls (7’s: 2; 6’s: 6; 5’s: 1)
All these girls were from pipelining/online. Daygame is impossible in Jakarta and I only went to a club once. The one 5 was kind of a pity fuck but at that point I was just trying to see how many girls I could get with in a short time. Truth is I was only there for 11 days so basically fucked a different girl every day.
2014: Seoul and Tokyo, 3 weeks: 9 girls (8’s: 2; 7’s: 2; 6’s: 5)
I dubbed this the ‘unfinished business’ tour as some of these girls I’d met while they were traveling in New York but never slept with them. The rest were new.
NEW YORK
In New York I was CONSTANTLY looking for girls. I would take every opportunity to do so – walking down the street, riding the subway, in cafés, clubs, etc. Sometimes I would talk to 30 girls a day. I also used various dating sites and other sources – language exchange sites, etc. – to supplement meeting people in real life. I would also hit specific areas related to my target (Asian girls) and try and get numbers there. My goals varied, but usually I would try and acquire a stable/harem of girls who I could sleep with whenever I wanted. At my best I had over 10 girls I could do this with. In total, over five years I slept with 82 girls. Some were super hot, some were not. But most were cute-pretty and aged 22 to 27.
***
This has been a long, wild ride for me, but nothing lasts forever. Please feel free to respond either openly or privately with any questions or comments. Happy hunting!
BACKGROUND
-Been in the game from 2010-2014 (5 years)
-Before that I was moderately successful but mainly in long term relationships
-I’m white, late 30’s, reasonably attractive and tall, but could stand to lose a couple pounds
-I’m only about Asian girls (not Asian-Americans but straight-up Asians), so this advice is geared toward those girls exclusively
LOGISTICS
-Live in New York where there are all manner of people to meet and many ways to do so
-Every year I take a trip to a different Asian country or countries
SUCCESS RATE
-5 years in the game: 123 girls. Approx. 24/year or one every 2 weeks (also countless makeouts and near successes, but not including those here).
-17 years before being in the game: 71 girls .Approx. 4/year or one every 3 months.
SECTION 1: ADVICE
This is basically a step-by-step guide to what I did. Techniques/results may vary, but I think this is a pretty good blueprint for a certain type of game.
TIP 1: DON’T GO FOR 9’S AND 10’S
It’s very rare you will get these girls, especially in Asia. I’m not saying don’t try, but the odds are against you. These girls will almost always be with people of their own kind (and usually don’t speak English). Instead, familiarize yourself with these three magic numbers: 6, 7, 8. Those are the girls to target.
My advice is to go hard for the 8’s, but don’t count out 7’s or even 6’s. Why? While a 6 might not be outwardly beautiful or overtly sexy, you have no idea what she’s like behind closed doors. Personally, I love love love girls who are a little bit shy – the kind you see in a Japanese porno, sitting there nervously while the guy starts taking off their clothes. The girl who even protests a little as you’re doing things to her. Not because you’re forcing her but because she’s just not used to it. These girls drive me crazy, and very few of them are 8’s or above, because all those girls have had guys after them for years and definitely have some experience.
Here are some examples of how a 6 can be great:
-In Japan, I took home an 18 year old girl with really large, perfect breasts. Her face was a 6 at best. Did it really matter?
-In Jakarta, I slept with a 22 year old virgin with giant tits, silky smooth skin and a super sweet disposition. She was average looking/kind of cute.
-Also in Jakarta I slept with a 19 year old with maybe a 6 face. But she was super tight and had killer long legs.
My point is that you shouldn’t get hung up on bedding only super hot girls. Again, you should certainly try, but there’s absolutely nothing wrong with sleeping with a variety of young, sweet, nubile girls who may or may not be beauty queens.
TIP 2: DON’T JUST GO TO CLUBS
Clubs can be fun, and are a necessity if you only have a couple days in a new place, but I personally find daygame to be much more effective. Coffee shops, book stores, subways and the street are where I meet most girls. If you’re traveling it’s actually quite easy because chances are you’re lost anyway, so an easy way to spark up a conversation is to ask for directions somewhere. You can also ask for recommendations for a good café, restaurant, etc. There are tons of things you can say, and actually what you say doesn’t really even matter; you can tell right away if the girl likes you or not. Overall, if you do daygame plus nightgame plus pipelining, you are sure to get some lays.
TIP 3: DON’T GO TO THE OBVIOUS PLACES
In every major city there’s an area or areas where a lot of hot girls congregate (Shibuya in Tokyo, for example). This is the last place you should go, as not only you but every other guy gaming girls will also be there. That means that in addition to lots of competition, the girls will be on their guard and not want to talk to you. Instead, find another place that still has a lot of foot traffic – train station, shopping/restaurant area, etc. – but is just slightly off the radar. While the quantity and quality might drop a bit, your chances of meeting girls who actually want to talk to you increases astronomically.
TIP 4: GET THE NUMBER AND GO
Sure you can sometimes get the insta-date, but most times you won’t. Most times if you keep talking to her you’ll end up saying something stupid and blow it. So just get the number (or Whatsapp contact or whatever) and go. Send them a message later that night telling them it was great to meet them. Then, after they reply, either that night or the next day, set up a time to meet. Don’t wait too long because you might only have a week or two there (whereas she has all the time in the world) so you need to secure the date fast.
TIP 5: DON’T SAY YOU ARE A VISITOR
It’s fine to say that you are new somewhere (hence the excuse to ask for directions and the need for the girl to help you with various things) but don’t say you’re a tourist. Say you just moved there or are planning to move there and are just scoping out the place. I usually say that I’m going to start work there in a few weeks or months, and am here temporarily to find an apartment, etc. This way the girl feels better about getting with you because she doesn’t think you’re just going to take off, but it also explains why after a week or so you you’re not going to be around. You can always say later that the job didn’t pan out.
TIP 6: GET AS MANY NUMBERS/DATES AS POSSIBLE
Don’t stop getting numbers, even after you’ve got a good amount. A lot of girls are flakes, and a lot of girls might not put out, so you need to always have a back-up (and a back-up for the back-up). There are times where I’ve literally scheduled 5 dates in one day. If you give yourself 2-3 hours for each, you should be fine. This really helped for example on my last night in Taiwan. I brought a girl back to my place but she wouldn’t have sex because she was on her period. An hour later I brought back another girl I’d scheduled a date with, and she ALSO was on her period. Finally, the third girl I brought home wasn’t, and it was a night to remember.
TIP 7: DON’T THROW OUT OLD NUMBERS
If all goes well you will get more numbers than you have time for. Once you leave make sure to keep in touch with some of these girls; you never know if you’ll be back or if they’ll visit your city. Plus, I can’t tell you how many times I met a girl visiting New York who was leaving the next day, or I met a girl in her country and I was leaving the next day. Definitely keep in contact with them, because the next time you visit (or they visit) you have an automatic in with them and getting a lay will be that much easier.
TIP 8: TRY AND SECURE THE LAY THE SAME NIGHT AS THE DATE
When it comes time for the date, make sure to choose a place (coffee shop, restaurant, bar) extremely close to where you are staying. Sometimes I even choose the place in my hotel. If she has somewhere she really, really wants to take you to, then you should probably just go with it, but otherwise be adamant that the place you’re going to bring her to will be amazing. Of course it’s not, but it doesn’t matter. Just be charming enough and she won’t care. Then, after you have a drink or meal, figure out a way to get them back to your place. Watching a movie or TV is always good. You can also say that you’re having a problem with the a.c. and the instructions aren’t in your language and you need help. The reason doesn’t matter so much as long as you can get her there.
TIP 9: BE PERSISTENT (BUT NOT AGGRESSIVE)
Once you’re there, try and make her feel comfortable with some small talk. But as soon as you can, try and get her sitting next to you on the couch or – even better – bed. Turn on the TV and pretend to watch for a while. Slowly start touching her, and get as close to her as possible without freaking her out. Then go for the kiss. If she accepts, slowly escalate until you get what you want. If she stops you, take a step back, shift the conversation to something neutral, then after a while try again. Here you should follow the ABC rule: Always Be Closing. You should always be moving forward, one way or another. If you get stuck at a certain point, recalibrate. For example, sometimes a kiss can actually be TOO intimate, so instead try kissing her neck. I’ve also noticed that the natural progression of first base to second to third doesn’t always apply in Asia. Why? A lot of Asian girls have small breasts and are self conscious about it. So if you’re stuck at first, try jumping to third and see what happens. You might be surprised.
TIP 10: DON’T FORGET TO HAVE FUN
While some of this is certainly stressful, remember that what you’re doing is pretty freaking amazing and you need to enjoy yourself. When you’re out there scoping out girls, sizing them up and then going in for the kill, it’s essentially like hunting. It’s primal. As someone who abhors actual hunting (I’m a vegetarian) this is as close as I get to the real thing. And it’s a total rush, every time.
*BONUS TIP: YOUR APPEARANCE
This should go without saying, but before you go out to meet girls or go on dates with them you need to look your best. However, your best doesn’t need to be something outside of your comfort zone – a suit, for example, or some kind of inane peacocking. If you don’t feel comfortable you’re not going to be confident and you’re not going to succeed. My advice is to be yourself, but your BEST self. Whatever style you rock, make sure your clothes are clean and newish and that you’ve showered and all that. It is unbelievable to me how many guys don’t do this and still expect to score. The worst are the backpackers and English teachers, who you will see all over Asia, dressed in shorts and stained t-shirts, slobbering over any girl in their vicinity. Standing out from these guys is super easy, provided you put in a little effort.
SECTION 2: SPECIFIC RESULTS
TRAVELS
2010: Japan, 1 month: 5 girls (7’s: 2; 6’s: 3)
This was my first time traveling while gaming so was a little rusty at first but ended up with a reasonable amount of lays.
2011: China and Taiwan, 6 weeks: 11 girls (8’s: 1; 7’s: 4; 6’s: 5; 5’s: 1)
China was really hard at first but got easier over time; Taiwan was a lot easier. The one 5 was my last day there and I just wanted to sleep with one more girl. I literally met her on the street and asked her if she wanted to ‘watch a movie’ at my hotel. The time I met her to the time we had sex was under an hour.
2012: Tokyo, Bangkok, Singapore, 3 weeks: 7 girls (9’s: 1; 8’s: 1; 7’s: 2; 6’s: 3)
To be fair, 2 of the girls I already banged in New York, but trip was worth it for the 8 in Bangkok and 9 in Singapore, one from pipelining and the other from Starbucks.
2013: Jakarta, 2 weeks: 9 girls (7’s: 2; 6’s: 6; 5’s: 1)
All these girls were from pipelining/online. Daygame is impossible in Jakarta and I only went to a club once. The one 5 was kind of a pity fuck but at that point I was just trying to see how many girls I could get with in a short time. Truth is I was only there for 11 days so basically fucked a different girl every day.
2014: Seoul and Tokyo, 3 weeks: 9 girls (8’s: 2; 7’s: 2; 6’s: 5)
I dubbed this the ‘unfinished business’ tour as some of these girls I’d met while they were traveling in New York but never slept with them. The rest were new.
NEW YORK
In New York I was CONSTANTLY looking for girls. I would take every opportunity to do so – walking down the street, riding the subway, in cafés, clubs, etc. Sometimes I would talk to 30 girls a day. I also used various dating sites and other sources – language exchange sites, etc. – to supplement meeting people in real life. I would also hit specific areas related to my target (Asian girls) and try and get numbers there. My goals varied, but usually I would try and acquire a stable/harem of girls who I could sleep with whenever I wanted. At my best I had over 10 girls I could do this with. In total, over five years I slept with 82 girls. Some were super hot, some were not. But most were cute-pretty and aged 22 to 27.
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This has been a long, wild ride for me, but nothing lasts forever. Please feel free to respond either openly or privately with any questions or comments. Happy hunting!
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