[Dusty]

(09-24-2014 02:02 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  

Women these days just don't get it. I have seen a couple of 6/7s lock down my friends by being sweet, feminine, caring, and *nice*. Yes, now that the relationships are around 4-5 years mark I see a lot of typical relationship bullshit and some beta behavior from my friends but when they got locked down they were not your usual beta chumps. Chicks like the women in OP still believe in the feminist propaganda and make their relationships about power and try to act like guys (something we have all witnessed). She could easily lock down a decent guy by being a woman but then that would mean she would have to become "less pressing, less volatile, less intimidating, less powerful, and less opinionated". In the OP she think all those things make colleges girls "less womanly" but what can you say about the hamster?

At the heart of feminism is true mysogyny. I should write a RoK article on it.

The feminist leaders are self loathing women. They hate feminine traits and hold male traits on a pedestal. Thus feminist have demonized feminine nature and forced women to idolize male nature. Of course, most women ( except for hard core bull dykes) are not capable of being truly masculine. Instead we have girls trained to put on this facade of masculinity by acting crude and difficult. They are made to feel ashamed about their true feminine urges to be submissive and are unhappily pursuing a life of abrasiveness built on a house of lies. These feminist leaders are still women and know how to manipulate other people ( playing on females weakness for peer approval, giving needy manginas pats on the head, and screeching at real men who do everything to avoid them including caving to their demands). Men must act more feminine to further close the gap between feminity and masculinity.

This is some sick shit perpetrated by damaged women with some serious penis envy and are mysogynists.

[General Stalin]

Another typical story - I'm glad this woman actually wrote about it. women are the voice of the media, and when women start broaching on confessing red pill truths then we are getting somewhere. The only thin that would have made this article better would be if she punctuated it by saying "If only I wasn't so naive to think I could have it all and just settled down with a great guy when I was younger..."

This girl I'm seeing currently just turned 26 and she's on the fast tack to the typical white middle-class woman fate. She is not eager to settle down with a man, doesn't want kids, heavily invested in her career, thinking about more college possibly, and loving the independent woman life-style. I see her either settling down later with some beta chump or on her way to the wannabe sex-and-the-city spinsterhood.

Great to have around because they don't want commitment, they love sex, still want male companionship at a surface level so they're affectionate and will do things for you, and you don't need to invest much and can have zero reservations about dumping them to the curve when something better piques your interest. If only they knew they were seen as such disposable assets because of their awful second-wave feminist lifestyles.

[samsamsam]

Problem with these articles is who is reading it. We see it as one chick that sort of gets it, but too late. Women who read it just think men are bad. Rather than absorbing the info and trying to apply it to their lives.

This lady wrote about the impact of Sex in the City and how she is a spinster in her late 40s now. Stupid bitch finds comfort that their are millions like her. Got it, love that hamster logic - fucking idiot. But she can always go down to Africa or wherever those women go for sex.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/articl...e-age.html

Quote:

At the age of 46, I accept that my opportunity to have a family has gone and the chances of meeting a decent man aren’t looking too rosy either.

Not exactly a cheery thought, but at least I can console myself with the knowledge that, in one sense at least, I will be far from alone — because today, in the UK, there are record numbers of us middle-aged singletons. Figures released last week by the Office of National Statistics showed that there are now 7.6 million people living alone in the UK.

And the fastest rising group of ‘aloners’ — 2.5 million — are people like me, who fall between the ages of 45 and 64 and live alone in our own properties with no spouse, partner or children.

[General Stalin]

(09-24-2014 03:09 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

Problem with these articles is who is reading it. We see it as one chick that sort of gets it, but too late. Women who read it just think men are bad. Rather than absorbing the info and trying to apply it to their lives.

This lady wrote about the impact of Sex in the City and how she is a spinster in her late 40s now. Stupid bitch finds comfort that their are millions like her. Got it, love that hamster logic - fucking idiot. But she can always go down to Africa or wherever those women go for sex.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/articl...e-age.html

Quote:

At the age of 46, I accept that my opportunity to have a family has gone and the chances of meeting a decent man aren’t looking too rosy either.

Not exactly a cheery thought, but at least I can console myself with the knowledge that, in one sense at least, I will be far from alone — because today, in the UK, there are record numbers of us middle-aged singletons. Figures released last week by the Office of National Statistics showed that there are now 7.6 million people living alone in the UK.

And the fastest rising group of ‘aloners’ — 2.5 million — are people like me, who fall between the ages of 45 and 64 and live alone in our own properties with no spouse, partner or children.

Humans are supposed to be social creatures. This is some sick logic. So sad to see women social reprogrammed to not want to fall in love with a man, have children, or raise a family.

[catoblepa]

in the unlikely event she's reading this topic I suggest her to drop that guy and find herself some rustic working class guy, maybe even jobless. considering her successful modeling career I suppose she's financially indipendent and doesn't need any man to provide economically for her. or should I guess lower class guys don't make her feel tingly down there?

[General Stalin]

(09-24-2014 03:31 PM)catoblepa Wrote:  

in the unlikely event she's reading this topic I suggest her to drop that guy and find herself some rustic working class guy, maybe even jobless. considering her successful modeling career I suppose she's financially indipendent and doesn't need any man to provide economically for her. or should I guess lower class guys don't make her feel tingly down there?

How dare you try to deny the hypergamy of the Western woman.

[samsamsam]

(09-24-2014 03:31 PM)catoblepa Wrote:  

in the unlikely event she's reading this topic I suggest her to drop that guy and find herself some rustic working class guy, maybe even jobless. considering her successful modeling career I suppose she's financially indipendent and doesn't need any man to provide economically for her. or should I guess lower class guys don't make her feel tingly down there?

She won't be able to model forever...

[Dismal Operator]

This has probably been said before, but on some level I do feel sympathy for women like this, simply because it's possible that they just never knew any better. All of their lives they've had their heads pumped full of nonsense, with no counterbalance, as the people who were feeding the message hadn't grown old enough to know for certain how wrong it was. That might be changing, as we're witnessing the first generation to really fully embrace and implement feminist ideals en masse straight from childhood through to 50s spinsterhood. The results haven't been pretty, with record numbers of women on medication and divorce rates through the roof. CH recently posted a psychology study that showed that the composite of the most unhappy person in America is a 42 year old unmarried careerist.

The OP is from the next generation, the children of those unhappy women. She would have been pumped full of the same nonsense as the older group, except at the time those women hadn't fully realized the feminist endgame. They were still in the middle of 'having it all,' and reality hadn't hit them just yet. Once reality does hit, they either have to admit that the feminist game plan wasn't all it was cracked up to be, like the Pepsi CEO, or just amplify the delusion to stratospheric levels like Jennifer Aniston. Either way, the unhappiness can't be escaped.

And that's where my sympathy comes in because nature leaves these women no chance to salvage the trainwreck. By virtue of the feminist push to essentially act like men, they will adopt that life track and if they are good at it, will come into their fulfillment of it in their mid 30s to mid 40s like a man would. But since they aren't men, all of the power, intimidation, opinions, volatility, etc that the OP prides herself on is all for naught as she would have necessarily sacrificed family, the thing she was ostensibly doing this for in the first place, in the process. She has no option at this point to rectify the mistakes, because the time has passed her by, never to return. That's the ultimate cruelty of it all.

Even though obvious cracks are there for all to see and female voices of dissent are growing louder, it'll probably be another generation before feminism is discredited. The author 'gets' that the problem is, as a 30 yo strong single woman she by definition is baggage, which is more than most have been willing to publicly admit until recently. That is a step forward. It's only one step though, as her conclusion is that the solution doesn't involve her losing the baggage but rather men 'manning up' and strengthening their resolve to haul that baggage around their necks.

[samsamsam]

(09-24-2014 03:52 PM)Dismal Operator Wrote:  

This has probably been said before, but on some level I do feel sympathy for women like this, simply because it's possible that they just never knew any better.

Gonna have to disagree a little bit here.

If you're an adult you have obligation to yourself to understand the world you are in. To process and analyze. Even if you are a woman. Even women have to analyze shit, like when to make an unprotected left hand turn, etc. After she gets pumped and dumped a few times, some introspection.

If you are not learning, you are dying.

She just failed to time it properly, she wanted to squeeze out the last bit of her greatness before tying some poor guy down. She analyzed the situation, but was off in her analysis.

Edit: Women have incredible analytical skills when it comes to blaming others, finding facts, etc. Heck this bitch sniffed out that the guy was dating someone else. So she needs to go pound sand.

[Dismal Operator]

(09-24-2014 03:55 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

(09-24-2014 03:52 PM)Dismal Operator Wrote:  

This has probably been said before, but on some level I do feel sympathy for women like this, simply because it's possible that they just never knew any better.

Gonna have to disagree a little bit here.

If you're an adult you have obligation to yourself to understand the world you are in. To process and analyze. Even if you are a woman. Even women have to analyze shit, like when to make an unprotected left hand turn, etc. After she gets pumped and dumped a few times, some introspection.

If you are not learning, you are dying.

She just failed to time it properly, she wanted to squeeze out the last bit of her greatness before tying some poor guy down. She analyzed the situation, but was off in her analysis.

Edit: Women have incredible analytical skills when it comes to blaming others, finding facts, etc. Heck this bitch sniffed out that the guy was dating someone else. So she needs to go pound sand.

I agree, but what I'm saying is that a lot of damage gets done before they become adults. By the time they're in high school they've been fed a steady diet of 'you don't need a man'/'work to make sure you never have to rely on a man for anything' by their single mothers, guidance counselors and Beyonces of the world. Then they go off to college and are surrounded by their peers who have been told the same things and they fall into the herd. At that point the feminized world is the world that they're in and it is pretty tough to break from that. One can be great analytically but if your first assumption is that 1+1=3, you're still going to end up in a horrifically wrong place despite being brilliant en route.

[Constitution45]

That prediction by Rollo Tomassi on mental illness being epidemic among the next generation of middle aged women is probably going to be spot on. This isn't the case of a small number of women deciding to chose careers instead of married life, relationships. But you have an entire culture and even government trying to pro actively push women into the workplace instead of raising a family; and shaming them for choosing the last option, despite it being crucial for the foundations of a healthy society; some may argue for a healthy individual as well.

When you come down to it, fundamentally its the belief that money and buying goods is more worthy than raising a family. Ultimately the average man's desire to have a career, which the modern women attempts to gain, was to provide for his family. Married men are the most productive workers. They take more overtime and work longer hours.

[Jack198]

(09-23-2014 08:20 PM)SheriffBart Wrote:  

As their product quality goes down, they feel the correct thing to do is charge a higher price. No wonder there aren't many female CEOs.

My good man, you are wise beyond your years - post of the week!

[samsamsam]

(09-24-2014 04:22 PM)Dismal Operator Wrote:  

(09-24-2014 03:55 PM)samsamsam Wrote:  

(09-24-2014 03:52 PM)Dismal Operator Wrote:  

This has probably been said before, but on some level I do feel sympathy for women like this, simply because it's possible that they just never knew any better.

Gonna have to disagree a little bit here.

If you're an adult you have obligation to yourself to understand the world you are in. To process and analyze. Even if you are a woman. Even women have to analyze shit, like when to make an unprotected left hand turn, etc. After she gets pumped and dumped a few times, some introspection.

If you are not learning, you are dying.

She just failed to time it properly, she wanted to squeeze out the last bit of her greatness before tying some poor guy down. She analyzed the situation, but was off in her analysis.

Edit: Women have incredible analytical skills when it comes to blaming others, finding facts, etc. Heck this bitch sniffed out that the guy was dating someone else. So she needs to go pound sand.

I agree, but what I'm saying is that a lot of damage gets done before they become adults. By the time they're in high school they've been fed a steady diet of 'you don't need a man'/'work to make sure you never have to rely on a man for anything' by their single mothers, guidance counselors and Beyonces of the world. Then they go off to college and are surrounded by their peers who have been told the same things and they fall into the herd. At that point the feminized world is the world that they're in and it is pretty tough to break from that. One can be great analytically but if your first assumption is that 1+1=3, you're still going to end up in a horrifically wrong place despite being brilliant en route.

I agree with you. We as humans, get shaped pretty much during our childhood and teenage years. And people have less and less internal strength it seems. But that is the way it is. Also, it is so much better for the future of society if these women don't have kids. Nature will do what it has to, to correct this madness.

[HeyPete]

Dismal Operator
I agree, but what I'm saying is that a lot of damage gets done before they become adults. By the time they're in high school they've been fed a steady diet of 'you don't need a man'/'work to make sure you never have to rely on a man for anything' by their single mothers, guidance counselors and Beyonces of the world. Then they go off to college and are surrounded by their peers who have been told the same things and they fall into the herd. At that point the feminized world is the world that they're in and it is pretty tough to break from that. One can be great analytically but if your first assumption is that 1+1=3, you're still going to end up in a horrifically wrong place despite being brilliant en route.
[/quote]

It's called foresight. If she was too stupid to have any she deserves no sympathy. And I give her none.

Look, this bitch has probably had people (men) waiting on her hand and foot since she was 12. If she was really stupid enough to think it would last forever. She deserves to be alone.

If she is too stupid, even now, to figure out she has a chance to improve her life with the things she really wants, but can't get it done. Then fuck her.

Why would you have sympathy for someone like this? When there are millions who actually deserve your sympathy. Not some amazon blonde bitch.

[Samseau]

(09-24-2014 01:34 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(09-24-2014 06:57 AM)Constitution45 Wrote:  

One woman based her whole sketch on having sex with a man who she actually didn't like but she was feeling so lonely.

As a side note, here's a perfect example of how real life trumps
game theory.

WIA

Binge and purge. Yep. This isn't game stuff as much as it is "reality is a bitch" stuff.

http://no-maam.blogspot.com/2004/03/bone...purge.html

Quote:

99%……99% is the percentage of women who will say no if you approach them at random. They use the binge and purge method of dating. They have a fantasy in their head. The fantasy is different for every girl but isn’t too much in line with what men are typically like. No man who doesn’t match the fantasy is welcome. Time passes and a woman gets desperate for a man and “binges”, taking anyone. Being unhappy with just anyone, she eventually “purges” him, and goes back waiting for her fantasy (which doesn’t exist).

Your chances of catching a woman who is binging is maybe one in ten. If you woo her correctly, she will go for you. The chances of meeting a woman who you match her fantasy is about 1 in a hundred (completely random).

[El Chinito loco]

(09-24-2014 04:22 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

She was probably too prickly and more suspicious than seductive, the sort of unstated accusations in her eyes that make her unfuckable despite her elegant figure.


But, she's complicated and damaged.

The important thing about being complicated and damaged is to still keep in mind there are other people in the world that aren't your shrink and have to be treated well if you want them to stick around.

Women like this view men in adversarial terms. Through years of carousel riding they have managed to self select the usual category of men with some of the worst traits to have long term relationships with.

That's why their views of men are so tainted now. They don't know how to react when they are in front of a man who is stable with decent values. They project all their poor choices onto every man they meet so they are always in fight or flight mode.

She'll be nothing but constant drama and shit tests as she wants a man to validate her every emotional whim and for them to take a backseat role so her narcissistic "life story" can unfold. I'm sure whatever relationship she ends up with she'll spin some jaundiced yarn about it in xojane.

[Feisbook Control]

(09-24-2014 03:52 PM)Dismal Operator Wrote:  

This has probably been said before, but on some level I do feel sympathy for women like this, simply because it's possible that they just never knew any better. All of their lives they've had their heads pumped full of nonsense, with no counterbalance, as the people who were feeding the message hadn't grown old enough to know for certain how wrong it was. That might be changing, as we're witnessing the first generation to really fully embrace and implement feminist ideals en masse straight from childhood through to 50s spinsterhood. The results haven't been pretty, with record numbers of women on medication and divorce rates through the roof. CH recently posted a psychology study that showed that the composite of the most unhappy person in America is a 42 year old unmarried careerist.

The OP is from the next generation, the children of those unhappy women. She would have been pumped full of the same nonsense as the older group, except at the time those women hadn't fully realized the feminist endgame. They were still in the middle of 'having it all,' and reality hadn't hit them just yet. Once reality does hit, they either have to admit that the feminist game plan wasn't all it was cracked up to be, like the Pepsi CEO, or just amplify the delusion to stratospheric levels like Jennifer Aniston. Either way, the unhappiness can't be escaped.

And that's where my sympathy comes in because nature leaves these women no chance to salvage the trainwreck. By virtue of the feminist push to essentially act like men, they will adopt that life track and if they are good at it, will come into their fulfillment of it in their mid 30s to mid 40s like a man would. But since they aren't men, all of the power, intimidation, opinions, volatility, etc that the OP prides herself on is all for naught as she would have necessarily sacrificed family, the thing she was ostensibly doing this for in the first place, in the process. She has no option at this point to rectify the mistakes, because the time has passed her by, never to return. That's the ultimate cruelty of it all.

Even though obvious cracks are there for all to see and female voices of dissent are growing louder, it'll probably be another generation before feminism is discredited. The author 'gets' that the problem is, as a 30 yo strong single woman she by definition is baggage, which is more than most have been willing to publicly admit until recently. That is a step forward. It's only one step though, as her conclusion is that the solution doesn't involve her losing the baggage but rather men 'manning up' and strengthening their resolve to haul that baggage around their necks.

I get what you're saying, and I think I fall somewhere between you and samasamsam on the scale you're discussing.

I don't think she deserves sympathy, but for another reason. I meet people all the time for whom I feel sympathy because they have been screwed over without even knowing it. Just yesterday I met such a person. Basically, a junior high school kid came to me looking to learn English from me. She has been doing five years of English at school and one at a private language school. So, I gave her a diagnostic test to gauge her level. She couldn't even answer questions such as "Are you male or female?" or "How many ears do you have?" I could see how deflated the girl was as we went on and she couldn't answer basic questions. She and her parents have been completely let down by the public education system and duped out of a few thousand dollars by some shady operator; both scenarios are pretty common here. I rage silently at this kind of tragedy because these kinds of people have bought into playing the game, done everything they thought they were supposed to do and been royally fucked anyway. These are the middle class people the world over getting ground down relentlessly -- at one end from politicians, bureaucrats, the media, and corporations, and at the other from the great mouth breathing welfare class.

The difference though is that such people have some humility and are pretty decent. The author of the article, and modern feminist women in general, deserve no such sympathy. It's not enough for them to find particular men unattractive and try as graciously as they can to rebuff them. It's not enough for them to disagree with others' beliefs or morality. No, so often, these women, even aside from their gross narcissism, take absolute delight in crushing beta men on the one hand, or insist upon intruding with their toxic ideologies into realms they actually have no interest in participating in (e.g. professional sports, gaming, gyms, etc.) just 'coz. They're like cats with a mouse. It's downright fucking sadistic.

Yet when the shoe is on the other foot, they expect the world to cry them a river. Fuck 'em. I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.

[StrikeBack]

I have as much sympathy for women like this one as they do for men.

[la_mode]

The "men have it better aging" thing is false, the top 5-10% men have it better, but an older woman (up to mid to late 40s) simply comes out ahead by being average and not being fat. She can pick from younger horny guys, or older provider types, or guys somewhere in between who just want a woman who is "pretty" and don't care about her age. In the US, the ratios are so bad that the average woman in her 40s has orbiters. The attractive woman at 40 has more orbiters spanning multiple generations than the average 21 year old.

Hollywood guys like George Clooney are often referred to as the prototypical high SMV older man, as if they were the majority.

There was a similar thread months ago.

[poutsara]

(09-23-2014 07:42 PM)girl Wrote:  

... I am currently on the phone having an argument with a guy I’d been on only four dates with, three of them good. One of them—the last—was less good, given he had gone MIA for the better part of three weeks and I had a sneaking suspicion he had a girlfriend.

We hadn’t slept together...

Do you believe this? I don't.

[Samseau]

^ Yes only the alphas enjoy the rewards, but when women talk about men they're only talking about alphas. Betas aren't worth talking about for most women. So when they bitch about men they're just jealous of what it's like to be an alpha. It's super annoying as women cannot understand the hypergamy aspect.

[bojangles]

(09-24-2014 10:32 PM)la_mode Wrote:  

The "men have it better aging" thing is false, the top 5-10% men have it better, but an older woman (up to mid to late 40s) simply comes out ahead by being average and not being fat. She can pick from younger horny guys, or older provider types, or guys somewhere in between who just want a woman who is "pretty" and don't care about her age. In the US, the ratios are so bad that the average woman in her 40s has orbiters. The attractive woman at 40 has more orbiters spanning multiple generations than the average 21 year old.

Hollywood guys like George Clooney are often referred to as the prototypical high SMV older man, as if they were the majority.

There was a similar thread months ago.

This is true because a lot of men don't look after themselves past 30 but for those that do.

[Fighting888]

(09-24-2014 10:32 PM)la_mode Wrote:  

The "men have it better aging" thing is false, the top 5-10% men have it better, but an older woman (up to mid to late 40s) simply comes out ahead by being average and not being fat. She can pick from younger horny guys, or older provider types, or guys somewhere in between who just want a woman who is "pretty" and don't care about her age. In the US, the ratios are so bad that the average woman in her 40s has orbiters. The attractive woman at 40 has more orbiters spanning multiple generations than the average 21 year old.

Hollywood guys like George Clooney are often referred to as the prototypical high SMV older man, as if they were the majority.

There was a similar thread months ago.

Men can hit the wall and often do in their mid/late 20s. The point is that, as a man, it's easier to age gracefully than the average woman if you maintain your health and invest in yourself. A man who really takes care of himself can look at good at 45 as he did at 25. The same man will also be that much better off because he'll be wealthier, better positioned in his career, more sexually/romantically confident, and more wise about life.

If a man drinks beer and eats potato chips, sure he'll hit the wall by 25. If a man exercises and lives healthy, he'll hit the wall in his 50s.

For a woman, the aging process isn't as kind. Women also don't really increase their SMV by becoming wiser or more confident or better positioned in their career. A woman's SMV is heavily linked to her appearance, which peaks in her early 20s. That's why being a man has its advantages.

[Days of Broken Arrows]

(09-24-2014 10:32 PM)la_mode Wrote:  

The "men have it better aging" thing is false, the top 5-10% men have it better, but an older woman (up to mid to late 40s) simply comes out ahead by being average and not being fat. She can pick from younger horny guys, or older provider types, or guys somewhere in between who just want a woman who is "pretty" and don't care about her age. In the US, the ratios are so bad that the average woman in her 40s has orbiters. The attractive woman at 40 has more orbiters spanning multiple generations than the average 21 year old.

Hollywood guys like George Clooney are often referred to as the prototypical high SMV older man, as if they were the majority.

There was a similar thread months ago.

"The "men have it better aging" thing is false, the top 5-10% men have it better, but an older woman (up to mid to late 40s) simply comes out ahead by being average and not being fat."

I don't know how old you are, but you might want to get on OKCupid and see what the average fortysomething woman looks like. It's not pretty.

I live in an upscale DC-Baltimore suburb where the women should be good-looking. I'd say, tops, 10 percent of the women on OKC in that age bracket are passable. But if I look at women in their 30s, it's over 50 percent and in their 20s, it's almost all the women.

The falloff in looks after about age 37 is dramatic, except for the very hot women -- and often that look is achieved with expensive medical technology. For men, it's not only easier because the aging process isn't as obvious, but because women were sort of built to look at older men anyway, so it's not a huge deal when a guy looks older.

Trust me, the nice-looking older women you see on TV are not what you will be getting in your 40s. The media lies to you. At my age looking back, I now can't believe I ever turned down girls in their teens and 20s because they didn't measure up (i.e. "too perky," "too artsy and weird," "too gangly"). Compared to what I see, now those girls were pageant winners by comparison.

[TheRookie]

(09-23-2014 09:45 PM)Dusty Wrote:  

Good analysis, and I know exactly the type you are talking about. I call them "histrionics."

She drops some clues:

Quote:

It’s this logic that has most of my 30-something guy friends dating girls fresh out of college. , in my experience, are less impressive, less striving, less volatile, less successful, less intimidating, less questioning, less pressing, less complex, less damaged, less opinionated, less powerful, less womanly. They are less, and, to a guy not ready for anything—like most of the guys I have dated in New York—less is more.

So she's volatile, demanding, pressing, questioning (interrogating), complex (moody), damaged, opinionated, powerful (masculine). No wonder Alex ran into the arms of a 23 year old foreign girl.

hahaha. Sounds like "Alex" kept her around for a while because she was hot, and jettisoned her when he found someone less annoying. Probably wasn't even about the age.

By writing this article, Jenny can rationalize to herself, and the world, that she was dumped because of her age and not her personality.