Quote: (09-14-2014 09:51 PM)tallandblonde Wrote:
For instance, women claim they want the "nice guy." Not really the case from my experience, as the nice guy will get friend zoned more often then not. Why bang the nice guy when you can get all the emotional support you desire without the sex?
On the other hand, if someone referred to me as a "nice guy" I would probably equate that to being called a giant pussy.
Women, biologically, utilize a dual sexual strategy, colloquially known here as "Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks". They need quality genes from a high-value man in order to create a child, and they need resources and protection for that child as it matures.
It's possible for a single man to fulfill both those needs, but only rarely is the most sexually arousing man also the most attractive in terms of provisioning potential. Nature has found it most effective to build into women's minds a Plan B, in which she uses different men to achieve both of these aims.
Most women don't realize this on a conscious level, but the biomechanics of sexual selection are so ingrained into the human psyche that these subconscious motives have seeped into the collective culture. When women talk about "bad boys" and "nice guys", they're referring to men who either turn them on or have the capacity to provide for them, respectively.
The primary reason the term "nice guy" carries many different connotations is that a woman's need for a beta provider will vary wildy depending on (amongst other things) her value in the sexual marketplace (which generally peaks in her early twenties before declining precipitously in her thirties and forties).
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this Rational Male post does a great job of explaining this:
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It’s my belief that a drive for hypergamic optimization exists in both the impulse to secure the best genes (sexy son theory – Alpha Fucks) and the best provisioning / emotional investment (parental investment – Beta Bucks) a woman’s attractiveness can be leveraged for. The problem then is one of leveraging her attractiveness relative to any particular phase of her life and the circumstance that phase dictates for her.
So when a woman's young and beautiful, and able to capture the attention of the high-value alpha males she would prefer father her children, nice guys are shunned and labeled "gross" or "creepy". Once she's hit the wall and is no longer able to leverage her beauty in this manner, she resorts to finding a man to pay the bills and provide comfort and security-and what do you know, suddenly she laments the fact that she "just can't find any nice guys" to date.