[Timmy1981]

Just curious guys, how do you track your progress with approaches and numbers? Do you keep journal, notebook, spreadsheet? I'm trying to figure a way to make the learning experience more efficient.

I've been reading alot of books on Game including Roosh "Bang" which I think is the best of them all. Have decided to start going out every Friday and Saturday night and some Thursdays to get practice. After two months I have only gotten two phone numbers and no responses.

So just looking for advice guys on how you make your game more efficient? Also how long it took for you guys to come up with a solid routine that got results consistently?

[Gmac]

(03-21-2011 11:20 PM)Timmy1981 Wrote:  

Just curious guys, how do you track your progress with approaches and numbers? Do you keep journal, notebook, spreadsheet? I'm trying to figure a way to make the learning experience more efficient.

I've been reading alot of books on Game including Roosh "Bang" which I think is the best of them all. Have decided to start going out every Friday and Saturday night and some Thursdays to get practice. After two months I have only gotten two phone numbers and no responses.

So just looking for advice guys on how you make your game more efficient? Also how long it took for you guys to come up with a solid routine that got results consistently?

2 months and 2 phone numbers? You need to approach more.

[Kickb]

I second that. I don't approach that often and I've gotten more numbers than that. Just start talking to girls and if you feel you had a good convoy just say something like "hey give me your number and we will hangout sometime.

[Timmy1981]

(03-22-2011 12:00 PM)kickboxer Wrote:  

I second that. I don't approach that often and I've gotten more numbers than that. Just start talking to girls and if you feel you had a good convoy just say something like "hey give me your number and we will hangout sometime.

Yeah of the approaches I've had the two that I've been able to follow Roosh's format in Bang and get to the 30 min. mark I've gotten thier numbers, but no replys when I contact them. I guess I need to approach more. Except for those two, having trouble transitioning to the opinon routine and then maintaining the convo. Guess I just need more practice.

Thanks for the advice guys.

[Samseau]

So you're going out to bars and clubs. Do you remember to kino? Is your body language good? Do you game with friends or by yourself?

Need way more info.

[Timmy1981]

(03-22-2011 06:32 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

So you're going out to bars and clubs. Do you remember to kino? Is your body language good? Do you game with friends or by yourself?

Need way more info.

I've been hitting up bars/clubs. Clubs I talk to alot of people and girls but have not gotten a number or a lengthy interaction to get one. Bars I have less interactions but have number closed twice. Of course they didnt contact me back.

I have usually escalated light kino on the arm of the two I got numbers from. I don't go beyond that usually. I think my body language is good, though sometimes I do find myself smiling a bit too much so I stop myself.

I usually go out solo because my friends are lame and are not interested in learning game. I follow Roosh Spot Theory and stay in one spot and I find that that works for the most part. Though I feel I missed out on some approaches by not moving.

You guys just think I need to do more approaches? Or is there something else standing out?

[Roosh]

Two numbers is too small a sample size. If you're a beginner, it'll probably take about 10 numbers to get a date.

How many approaches are you doing a week?

[Timmy1981]

(03-22-2011 08:42 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Two numbers is too small a sample size. If you're a beginner, it'll probably take about 10 numbers to get a date.

How many approaches are you doing a week?

Hey Roosh big fan of your material by the way. I'm not quite sure but I would say around 5 per night I go out which is usually Friday and Saturday night. I'm ok with the initial conversation starter, but its transitioning to the opinion routine and keeping the conversation going is where I go wrong.

Also I agree with your spot theory and it seems to work. But, if you see someone across the bar that you want to approach and she's not moving toward your direction, do you get up and approach or do you just stay where you are?

Thanks

[Roosh]

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if you see someone across the bar that you want to approach and she's not moving toward your direction, do you get up and approach or do you just stay where you are?

I'll move, though I make it casual like I'm in her area to grab a drink, napkin, look out the window, or use the bathroom. The approach will be a consequence of that action.

[CJ]

Don't feel bad Timmy, I hardly get any numbers any more either. If the girl isn't DTF that night, then I'm on to the next one!

[Screwston]

I have the problem of not fucking after getting the number. Pisses me off

[Timmy1981]

(03-23-2011 09:37 PM)CJ Wrote:  

Don't feel bad Timmy, I hardly get any numbers any more either. If the girl isn't DTF that night, then I'm on to the next one!

CJ u saying I should stop asking for numbers and if shes not DTF then keep going until I do? I actually like that idea. Less dissappointment that way I guess.

[CJ]

You should always go for the same night lay. I look at the phone number as a back-up plan now, Roosh taught me this, and you said you read Bang too! I'm not saying you should disregard numbers, and definitely get them from girls after you've banged them, but if your goal when you go out is to get as many phone #s as possible, you're going to go home with a dry dick more often than not.

[Timmy1981]

(03-24-2011 04:28 AM)CJ Wrote:  

You should always go for the same night lay. I look at the phone number as a back-up plan now, Roosh taught me this, and you said you read Bang too! I'm not saying you should disregard numbers, and definitely get them from girls after you've banged them, but if your goal when you go out is to get as many phone #s as possible, you're going to go home with a dry dick more often than not.

Alrigt good advice cj, thanks! will have to put this into practice.

[Roosh]

Yeah going for same-night lay before the number is definitely in the book.

[CJ]

(03-25-2011 07:39 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Yeah going for same-night lay before the number is definitely in the book.

You'll be happy to know my friend just ordered the book too. I showed him your blog and offered to let him borrow my mine, but he said he wanted his own copy to study. His sudden dedication makes me believe I will soon have an ideal wingman!