I just got back from two weeks in Rio, which included Carnaval, so I thought I'd share my experiences there.
First, right off the bat, let me say that although I didn't read it until yesterday, Roosh's Brazil Compendium is right on the money as far as Rio and Carnaval go. I was reading it yesterday going "That's exactly right!" or "Man, I noticed the same fucking thing!"
Since I am new here, a little about me: I'm 26, living in DC area. I have decent game. I can get numbers with relative ease but my phone game sucks so my conversion to meet-ups off of numbers is pretty low. I have pulled a couple of same night notches but my game is no where near tight enough to have consistency there. Travel-wise, I am even more of a newb. Before this, I had only traveled internationally to Canada, the Bahamas, and Mexico (4-5 times) and since English was spoken most places and my Spanish is functional, I've never had to deal with a lot of culture shock or large language barriers. Rio was a huge surprise in both how unsafe it felt (it felt more unsafe than in Mexico actually), how culturally different it was, and how few people spoke English. It took me a couple of days to adjust but by the time Carnaval rolled around I was feeling good and I had an unbelievable time. My best friend moved down there in November so having him around was a life-saver. A) he speaks Portuguese and B) he knew everywhere to go to both party and to stay safe, had a social circle, and took me to a lot of cool places. We partied. We saw the sights. We did some off-the-beaten path type stuff. I am trying to learn to surf so I even got some time out on the water, which was awesome. But mostly we drank and partied![[Image: smile.gif]](https://rooshvforum.network/images/smilies/smile.gif)
I added two notches, both with Brazilian girls that I met off of pure cold approach and I nearly got another, so it can be done during Carnaval.
I will be upfront and say that yes, I have blue eyes and dark blond hair that magically gets blond highlights in it when in the sun (it looks much like the girls down there dye their hair to look like). But to be honest, I don't think this played a huge factor, particularly because this was Rio during Carnaval.
Anyways, here are some of my observations (completely random order):
Social Class: I didn't notice too much how social class played a part but I guess the two girls I swooped and the one I near-swooped would be considered upper-middle class. They had good jobs, cars, and nice apartments.
Social Circle: I got very little love from the girls I met through my buddy's social circle. They were all very friendly but none gave me any real indication that they were trying to get some gringo up in them. Then again, maybe my social circle game was just weak, that's definitely not outside of the realm of possibility.
Time Barrier: Roosh mentions that the time you are in country can have a big impact on how the girls receive you. I was pretty vague about the whole thing whenever asked, implying that I was there for several weeks but that my departure date was undetermined. I guess some girls prefer a guy sticking around for a while. The second girl I swooped certainly didn't. I punched her ticket to pillage village about 30 minutes before my taxi to the airport came and she knew that was the case. I usually made a point to mention that my friend lived there and that we were sharing a 2BD apartment, which I think helped a lot too.
My Blond Hair/Blue Eyes: I just don't think it played a huge role. I theorize that this is because in Rio, especially during Carnaval, its just not that exotic. Sure, I caught some looks here and there. I had one girl tell me I was the most beautiful person she had ever seen. I had another group of girls literally chase me down the street, yelling at me in English. But I wasn't catching super aggressive eye contact or anything like that. I still had to approach like a mad man to get anywhere.
Muscles and Height: I'd say that these two are much, much more of an advantage over blond hair/blue eyes. My buddy is 6'4" and jacked. He looks 100% Brazilian (most girls accused him of being Brazilian and trying to pose as an American) with black hair, dark skin, and dark brown eyes. He caught 10x the looks and attention I did. Walking down the street, literally every third girl would have her head on a swivel staring at him. I am in good shape too, but I don't have the height (I am only 5'8") so I think that's the biggest advantage of all, especially when you see that most Brasilieros are not topping 6ft.
It is 100% a numbers game: I played the numbers for sure, for several reasons. The first two should be apparent: I don't speak Portuguese and I'm a gringo, so I had to find a girl who spoke English and was willing to board the Gringo Train to pound town, especially in Rio where they've probably had their fair share of opportunities to do so. I think there is also a large percentage of girls who have an "anti-American" sentiment, particularly during Carnaval, due to sex tourism and what many girls told me was general "American arrogance." The other reason isn't quite as obvious if you haven't been to Carnaval before: the girls are getting hit on by the super aggressive Brazilian men, literally every 5 minutes. This causes them to be in "blow out" mode and pretty much shoot down anything right away. I'd say at least 50% of my approaches were pure blow outs. I had the most success with very "soft" openers...i.e. language help, directions, casual conversation when in stationary proximity.
The Girls that are Pro-Gringo: Roosh is spot on here. The three girls I got anywhere with where 32, 31, and 28 years old. They had all studied abroad and spoke pretty good, if not almost perfect English. They liked American entertainment and 2 of the 3 had been to America. I imagine I was not the first gringo for any of them.
Brasilieros have little game: I don't recall seeing many of the local guys do much that signaled they really had anything but a lot of persistence.
Quality of Girl in Rio: I thought it was almost unbelievable how hot the girls where. I've gamed a bit in NYC, one of the US's "top spots" and I'd say that in one day in Rio I saw as many 8-10s as I would in an entire week in NYC. If other cities in Brazil or the world have hotter girls, I can't go to them because I would be unable to even function due to the ever present raging boner I would have 24/7. And it goes without saying that the B girls were absolutely a welcomed change with their warmth, femininity, sensuality, etc... I can see why Roosh is continually disenchanted with DC girls, who I now realize love the verbal sparring match, love to hide their interests, and amount to basically men in slightly attractive female bodies. This observation alone may turn out to be a life-altering one for me as I can not even begin to imagine myself settling down with anything but a Brazilian girl right now.
Fake Tits and Tats: Both the girls I had sex with there had fake tits. God bless Brazil. I also love tattoos so the plethora of girls with tats was awesome.
The Game I Ran: The game I run here in DC is basically cockiness, heavy teasing, and otherwise putting the girl in her place. In Brazil, I had to calibrate this downward a huge amount and focused on making genuine connections with the girl while being very gentle and playful with the teasing (ex: to a short girl - "You are cute enough and small enough that I just might shove you in my suitcase and take you back with me.") A few subjects that worked very well in this "genuine connetion game" were: family, music, dancing/Samba, interest in the rest of Brazil, our ethnic backgrounds, the difference between Portugul's Portuguese and Brazil's Portugues/the difference between America's English and England's English. At all points I was very heavy on the physical contact and returned a solid percentage of the affection I was generously being given. Like Roosh, I also, unfortunately, cannot comment on a type of game that works well in getting the girl hooked/interested. But after the hook point and getting attraction, I think what I did was pretty consistent.
A Phone is a Must: I spent $12 on ebay to get a cheap quad-band GSM phone. It was the best decision I could have made. Not only did I worry less about being separated from my buddy when we were out, but my two swoops and the near-swoop, all came days after meeting the girls, staying in contact via phone/text, and then meeting up one-on-one later in the week. The same night pull is probably near impossible during Carnaval. Phone game worked very well and required minimal effort as they were all very open to meeting up.
Nightlife during Carnaval is Pretty Dead: This was both good and bad. It was bad because it meant clubs were pretty poor most nights. It was good because this forced me to go to bed early so that I could continue my bender/aggressive drinking at 9am the next morning at whatever the first bloco of the day was. This was also good because it allowed me to still go out, party my face off all day, and then regroup/scrub off the day's debauchery and meet up with these girls at night. That said, a few places were alright during Carnaval, particularly Baronneti and the early night bar scenes in Leblon (Itahy had the highest concentration of incredibly hot women - as in hottest girls I've seen in my whole life type of hot - that I have ever encountered anywhere) and Gavea were really fun with a good crowd. These early night bar scenes go until about 1am and are awesome. If its crowded, they pile out into the streets and its a great way to meet a bunch of people. If they aren't crowded everyone is sitting so its tough to mingle, in which case we just grabbed a table and proceeded to get obliterated off of R$4 beers. Win-win!!!! We tried to hit up Nuth a couple of times and it blew.
Portuguese: My opinion on this is that for a guy who doesn't know the language, get yourself at max to 25% proficiency. This will allow you to at least function a little bit in daily life. But it will also send the message to any girls that the interaction will be done in English. This puts the ball in your court as that is the language you know how to game in. Plus, it works wonders to butcher the language in a cute, playful way with the girl helping you. They loved that. My buddy on the other hand, is fluent enough to get through all interactions, but not yet good enough to really have the humor, wit, and quickness that he needs to have game in Portuguese. But because he is good enough to talk, the girls a lot of the times expected him to just use that and it makes it much harder for him.
How I Handled Excessive Kissing: The girls seemed like they wanted to kiss constantly. This is a sexual tension killer in my opinion, so I did a lot of pulling them in, holding our lips close, and then looking away. Or giving them a peck when they wanted a makeout. Or pulling them in only to hug them. This seemed to work and get the girls to pursue much more aggressively. The two lays I got had zero resistance and I think this was a huge factor in that. They were just horned up from all the fucking around I had dealt them.
Food: I was surprised how great some of the food was. Expensive, but really good. I can't remember many of the names but there was a huge variety of good food. The sushi (I went to two different places) was surprisingly good. We went to Porcao in Barra (steakhouse) and some of their cuts were absolutely delicious. Garota de Gavea had an amazing meat platter. A place I went to in Botofago was good all around and had incredible views of the bay.
Interest in Hawaii: I love Hawaii. Its my favorite place on Earth and it has taken a special place in my heart. I am 90% sure I am moving there this spring. Anyway, any time I mentioned Hawaii, to guy or girl, I got hugely enthusiastic responses. Either they had been there or it was at the top of their coveted travel destinations. I think it has a lot to do with similar attitudes, weather and geography, and a love for the beach/ocean but maybe Kona has more insight. I thought that was really cool and when I spoke to my parents yesterday I summed it up with "If Honolulu is to be my wife, Rio will probably be my mistress."
That's about all I can think of. It was an absolutely incredible experience for me, it ranks right behind my first trip to Hawaii as something that is really causing me to reflect and will possibly have long-term effects on how I decide to live my life. I went down mostly for Carnaval, to party, to see my friend, and to surf a little (the surfing was not the best for a beginner, very windy conditions and not clean waves). Those things alone made it awesome. The quality both in looks and personality of the girls made it even better. I can see why if you just want to go down there to spray your Gringo love seed everywhere that Carnaval is not the best time to go. But if you are looking for a unique experience that is world famous, where you can drink with 10s of thousands of people, dance, act a fool, and generally just do whatever the hell you want, I think Carnaval is definitely the way to go. Plus, as Roosh has said, you will always still need game when traveling abroad, and if you have it, Carnaval should still offer you the chance at some flags. I don't have great game and I did OK.
First, right off the bat, let me say that although I didn't read it until yesterday, Roosh's Brazil Compendium is right on the money as far as Rio and Carnaval go. I was reading it yesterday going "That's exactly right!" or "Man, I noticed the same fucking thing!"
Since I am new here, a little about me: I'm 26, living in DC area. I have decent game. I can get numbers with relative ease but my phone game sucks so my conversion to meet-ups off of numbers is pretty low. I have pulled a couple of same night notches but my game is no where near tight enough to have consistency there. Travel-wise, I am even more of a newb. Before this, I had only traveled internationally to Canada, the Bahamas, and Mexico (4-5 times) and since English was spoken most places and my Spanish is functional, I've never had to deal with a lot of culture shock or large language barriers. Rio was a huge surprise in both how unsafe it felt (it felt more unsafe than in Mexico actually), how culturally different it was, and how few people spoke English. It took me a couple of days to adjust but by the time Carnaval rolled around I was feeling good and I had an unbelievable time. My best friend moved down there in November so having him around was a life-saver. A) he speaks Portuguese and B) he knew everywhere to go to both party and to stay safe, had a social circle, and took me to a lot of cool places. We partied. We saw the sights. We did some off-the-beaten path type stuff. I am trying to learn to surf so I even got some time out on the water, which was awesome. But mostly we drank and partied
I added two notches, both with Brazilian girls that I met off of pure cold approach and I nearly got another, so it can be done during Carnaval.I will be upfront and say that yes, I have blue eyes and dark blond hair that magically gets blond highlights in it when in the sun (it looks much like the girls down there dye their hair to look like). But to be honest, I don't think this played a huge factor, particularly because this was Rio during Carnaval.
Anyways, here are some of my observations (completely random order):
Social Class: I didn't notice too much how social class played a part but I guess the two girls I swooped and the one I near-swooped would be considered upper-middle class. They had good jobs, cars, and nice apartments.
Social Circle: I got very little love from the girls I met through my buddy's social circle. They were all very friendly but none gave me any real indication that they were trying to get some gringo up in them. Then again, maybe my social circle game was just weak, that's definitely not outside of the realm of possibility.
Time Barrier: Roosh mentions that the time you are in country can have a big impact on how the girls receive you. I was pretty vague about the whole thing whenever asked, implying that I was there for several weeks but that my departure date was undetermined. I guess some girls prefer a guy sticking around for a while. The second girl I swooped certainly didn't. I punched her ticket to pillage village about 30 minutes before my taxi to the airport came and she knew that was the case. I usually made a point to mention that my friend lived there and that we were sharing a 2BD apartment, which I think helped a lot too.
My Blond Hair/Blue Eyes: I just don't think it played a huge role. I theorize that this is because in Rio, especially during Carnaval, its just not that exotic. Sure, I caught some looks here and there. I had one girl tell me I was the most beautiful person she had ever seen. I had another group of girls literally chase me down the street, yelling at me in English. But I wasn't catching super aggressive eye contact or anything like that. I still had to approach like a mad man to get anywhere.
Muscles and Height: I'd say that these two are much, much more of an advantage over blond hair/blue eyes. My buddy is 6'4" and jacked. He looks 100% Brazilian (most girls accused him of being Brazilian and trying to pose as an American) with black hair, dark skin, and dark brown eyes. He caught 10x the looks and attention I did. Walking down the street, literally every third girl would have her head on a swivel staring at him. I am in good shape too, but I don't have the height (I am only 5'8") so I think that's the biggest advantage of all, especially when you see that most Brasilieros are not topping 6ft.
It is 100% a numbers game: I played the numbers for sure, for several reasons. The first two should be apparent: I don't speak Portuguese and I'm a gringo, so I had to find a girl who spoke English and was willing to board the Gringo Train to pound town, especially in Rio where they've probably had their fair share of opportunities to do so. I think there is also a large percentage of girls who have an "anti-American" sentiment, particularly during Carnaval, due to sex tourism and what many girls told me was general "American arrogance." The other reason isn't quite as obvious if you haven't been to Carnaval before: the girls are getting hit on by the super aggressive Brazilian men, literally every 5 minutes. This causes them to be in "blow out" mode and pretty much shoot down anything right away. I'd say at least 50% of my approaches were pure blow outs. I had the most success with very "soft" openers...i.e. language help, directions, casual conversation when in stationary proximity.
The Girls that are Pro-Gringo: Roosh is spot on here. The three girls I got anywhere with where 32, 31, and 28 years old. They had all studied abroad and spoke pretty good, if not almost perfect English. They liked American entertainment and 2 of the 3 had been to America. I imagine I was not the first gringo for any of them.
Brasilieros have little game: I don't recall seeing many of the local guys do much that signaled they really had anything but a lot of persistence.
Quality of Girl in Rio: I thought it was almost unbelievable how hot the girls where. I've gamed a bit in NYC, one of the US's "top spots" and I'd say that in one day in Rio I saw as many 8-10s as I would in an entire week in NYC. If other cities in Brazil or the world have hotter girls, I can't go to them because I would be unable to even function due to the ever present raging boner I would have 24/7. And it goes without saying that the B girls were absolutely a welcomed change with their warmth, femininity, sensuality, etc... I can see why Roosh is continually disenchanted with DC girls, who I now realize love the verbal sparring match, love to hide their interests, and amount to basically men in slightly attractive female bodies. This observation alone may turn out to be a life-altering one for me as I can not even begin to imagine myself settling down with anything but a Brazilian girl right now.
Fake Tits and Tats: Both the girls I had sex with there had fake tits. God bless Brazil. I also love tattoos so the plethora of girls with tats was awesome.
The Game I Ran: The game I run here in DC is basically cockiness, heavy teasing, and otherwise putting the girl in her place. In Brazil, I had to calibrate this downward a huge amount and focused on making genuine connections with the girl while being very gentle and playful with the teasing (ex: to a short girl - "You are cute enough and small enough that I just might shove you in my suitcase and take you back with me.") A few subjects that worked very well in this "genuine connetion game" were: family, music, dancing/Samba, interest in the rest of Brazil, our ethnic backgrounds, the difference between Portugul's Portuguese and Brazil's Portugues/the difference between America's English and England's English. At all points I was very heavy on the physical contact and returned a solid percentage of the affection I was generously being given. Like Roosh, I also, unfortunately, cannot comment on a type of game that works well in getting the girl hooked/interested. But after the hook point and getting attraction, I think what I did was pretty consistent.
A Phone is a Must: I spent $12 on ebay to get a cheap quad-band GSM phone. It was the best decision I could have made. Not only did I worry less about being separated from my buddy when we were out, but my two swoops and the near-swoop, all came days after meeting the girls, staying in contact via phone/text, and then meeting up one-on-one later in the week. The same night pull is probably near impossible during Carnaval. Phone game worked very well and required minimal effort as they were all very open to meeting up.
Nightlife during Carnaval is Pretty Dead: This was both good and bad. It was bad because it meant clubs were pretty poor most nights. It was good because this forced me to go to bed early so that I could continue my bender/aggressive drinking at 9am the next morning at whatever the first bloco of the day was. This was also good because it allowed me to still go out, party my face off all day, and then regroup/scrub off the day's debauchery and meet up with these girls at night. That said, a few places were alright during Carnaval, particularly Baronneti and the early night bar scenes in Leblon (Itahy had the highest concentration of incredibly hot women - as in hottest girls I've seen in my whole life type of hot - that I have ever encountered anywhere) and Gavea were really fun with a good crowd. These early night bar scenes go until about 1am and are awesome. If its crowded, they pile out into the streets and its a great way to meet a bunch of people. If they aren't crowded everyone is sitting so its tough to mingle, in which case we just grabbed a table and proceeded to get obliterated off of R$4 beers. Win-win!!!! We tried to hit up Nuth a couple of times and it blew.
Portuguese: My opinion on this is that for a guy who doesn't know the language, get yourself at max to 25% proficiency. This will allow you to at least function a little bit in daily life. But it will also send the message to any girls that the interaction will be done in English. This puts the ball in your court as that is the language you know how to game in. Plus, it works wonders to butcher the language in a cute, playful way with the girl helping you. They loved that. My buddy on the other hand, is fluent enough to get through all interactions, but not yet good enough to really have the humor, wit, and quickness that he needs to have game in Portuguese. But because he is good enough to talk, the girls a lot of the times expected him to just use that and it makes it much harder for him.
How I Handled Excessive Kissing: The girls seemed like they wanted to kiss constantly. This is a sexual tension killer in my opinion, so I did a lot of pulling them in, holding our lips close, and then looking away. Or giving them a peck when they wanted a makeout. Or pulling them in only to hug them. This seemed to work and get the girls to pursue much more aggressively. The two lays I got had zero resistance and I think this was a huge factor in that. They were just horned up from all the fucking around I had dealt them.
Food: I was surprised how great some of the food was. Expensive, but really good. I can't remember many of the names but there was a huge variety of good food. The sushi (I went to two different places) was surprisingly good. We went to Porcao in Barra (steakhouse) and some of their cuts were absolutely delicious. Garota de Gavea had an amazing meat platter. A place I went to in Botofago was good all around and had incredible views of the bay.
Interest in Hawaii: I love Hawaii. Its my favorite place on Earth and it has taken a special place in my heart. I am 90% sure I am moving there this spring. Anyway, any time I mentioned Hawaii, to guy or girl, I got hugely enthusiastic responses. Either they had been there or it was at the top of their coveted travel destinations. I think it has a lot to do with similar attitudes, weather and geography, and a love for the beach/ocean but maybe Kona has more insight. I thought that was really cool and when I spoke to my parents yesterday I summed it up with "If Honolulu is to be my wife, Rio will probably be my mistress."
That's about all I can think of. It was an absolutely incredible experience for me, it ranks right behind my first trip to Hawaii as something that is really causing me to reflect and will possibly have long-term effects on how I decide to live my life. I went down mostly for Carnaval, to party, to see my friend, and to surf a little (the surfing was not the best for a beginner, very windy conditions and not clean waves). Those things alone made it awesome. The quality both in looks and personality of the girls made it even better. I can see why if you just want to go down there to spray your Gringo love seed everywhere that Carnaval is not the best time to go. But if you are looking for a unique experience that is world famous, where you can drink with 10s of thousands of people, dance, act a fool, and generally just do whatever the hell you want, I think Carnaval is definitely the way to go. Plus, as Roosh has said, you will always still need game when traveling abroad, and if you have it, Carnaval should still offer you the chance at some flags. I don't have great game and I did OK.
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Can't be any worse than the American girls I will be forced to deal with now.
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