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In this post I'm concerned with a few different problems but since they are related to each other I express them together.

The first problem is that more often than not I find "sparks" with a woman in a situation where hitting on her is difficult. For example:
1-A female doctor I visit (may not be my own GP),
2-a nurse at a clinic I go to,
3-a female coleague
4-a shop clerk/cashier or a girl working at a cafe,
5-a passerby in the street who "gives me the eye".

In the first three cases one is not supposed to hit on the woman and in the case of a female coleague if it is not done with enough skill ("hitting on her without hitting on her") it can result in a long term feeling of embarrasment (each time I meet her). In the last two cases I have very short time to approach or to talk and in 4 the girl may not feel comfortable to be hit on in front of customers. (Or maybe in effect it is 'me' who is not comfortable?) I can't find much info about such situations in Day Bang.

Now the philosophical part. The game that Mystery and Roosh advocate can be called "spawn game" in which you approach as many (quality) women as you can. The main reason I'm not so interested in this kind of game is that I don't have enough time or energy for it. I like more the "organic" type of game. (Yeah, this may sound like Dr Judy, BUT WITHOUT ONEITIES.) Honestly I don't care if I don't get laid for a month. What makes me sad is having a chance with a woman (or several) and missing it: not giving it a manly try.


There are some qualities in a man which are emphasized in game. For example confidence, body language and eye contact. I've been working on these and they are not too difficult to achieve. However the most difficult one for me is the following:
I'm not good at acting at all and am not talkative. Well, I have a lot to talk about, I've lived and worked in several different countries and am quite knowledgeable. My sense of humor is not too bad either. But my brain doesn't work fast enough to hand me the next thing to say. So often I realize something I should've said after the chance has been missed.
One related problem is that I can have a lot of conviction in what I say and I often express my opinion in strong terms, which can scare people away.

[legacy]

I think you should go with roosh and mystery's method for a while, because you'll build the confidence and social awareness that will help you in situations such as the ones you've listed above. You just won't have to think to hard about it, or find it awkward

[WestIndianArchie]

1 & 2 put them in professional dilemmas.

3 can lead to harassment and professional damage.

All three reek of desperation and laziness.

4, the hired gun is approached even more than the average hottie. She probably gets more attention in uniform than out of uniform. But this is a solvable situation, Google/search rvf for hired gun game, and a lot of strategies come up.

5 - a girl giving you the eye is her way of approaching, by saying nothing you are rejecting her. If you don't have a lot of notches,
- say hello
- transition into something direct, like " I knew we would meet today"
- now we just have to get to know each other

From there chat with her, and get her number.

Once you're used to chatting and number getting, stop going for numbers and go for instant dates.

As for the philosophical bent

Spawn game is basically the numbers game. No matter how good guy get, you can't pull every chick you fancy.

But the better you get at game, both passive and active, the better your return on investment.

As for your lack of ability, you gain confidence through competence. The more you do it, reflect, tweak and modify, the easier it becomes.

It only gets better through action, action that naturally puts you out on display. most everything holding you back is in your mind.

WIA

[XXL]

You can talk to all first four girls no problem AS LONG AS YOU DON'T HIT ON THEM. You don't need to be super talkative but still you have to be able to carry on a conversation. If they bite it you can start some tactful flirting.

Random examples of flirt
nurse version: "you must be miss of this hospital or at least miss of first and second floor, never been on other floors so I don't know the potential there"
sales clerk version: take few clothes and ask them which ones would they like you to wear on a date if you asked them out

Feel free to hit on the ones who glance at you in the street.


MOST IMPORTANT: you have to learn to talk to girls in general in all situations so that in the future it won't make too much difference to you whether it's hospital, work, train, beach, bar, etc. Once you learn that the only factor you will always have in mind will be the level of social pressure in any given situation. Talking and flirting with nurses and random chicks will seem the same to you except for intensity or directness of it. So for example, with nurses you will convey more by eye contact, subtle gestures and careful words while with randoms in the street you will say things more directly.

Different channels of communication but the message is the same. It's like with resistance training, you can lift heavy stuff or light stuff but you do the same move, the technique remains the same.

[Simeon_Strangelight]

"Organic" learning by hitting on all potential targets in your daily encounters is actually a hard way. Since you are beginning you will create quite a few awkward moments and things might become strange, if you meet them again and again. Best strategy is to just flirt with them and have fun. Since you meet them often, then you can afford for attraction to build itself.

The fastest way to learn Game is by doing Street Game - direct and indirect - (for more direct read KrauserPUA works). Night Game works too, but there the interactions are tougher - unless there is a good Bar Culture around you.

So girl Nr. 5 is best - even when one does not give you an IOI (indicator of interest), but you find her very attractive - approach - you will be motivated. That way you will be a lot better way faster than trying to hit on co-workers or employees in your favorite coffee-place.

Of course continue reading Game 101 literature - Roosh Bang, Daybang, Krauser Nitro & Mastery etc. and applying the wisdom there. After 50-100 approaches you should definitely feel a difference.

After some time hitting on all co-workers without actually hitting on them will be a lot easier - you will know better how to build attraction and whether there is enough to ask her out on a date and be sure, that she will say yes or be at least very apologetic, because she has a boyfriend (and her whole demeanor tells you that she wishes she did not have one). On the advanced level you can even manage to be the R-selected Lover in her eyes - in that state she might fuck you even with a boyfriend, because you were a purely sexual creature for her. That is however more advanced stuff - Krauser has a lot on that.

Step by step....