[Blackliter]

Hey guys, things I want to fix so thought id put it out there.

I stare a bit too intently on the first glance, sometimes doing a double look. most girls who gave an IOI then go cold after I double look so trying to work on that. Any suggestions on internalization , its tough because the 2nd look helps decide to go for it or not.

I'm not able to stay still for awhile when going out (because I'm looking for approachable girls) . I have to be walking around the bar constantly. Do you guys post up or do the same?

In NYC, yesterday most of the girls were in groups.. any of the decent looking ones shot down immediately in night game. There was 1 single girl alone, and she was picked up by an older guy in a blazer early in the night just 10 minutes after I spotted her. A ton of cockblocking girlfriends who will just pull the girl back into the group.

Approached 7 girls, all shot down within 30 secs except 1 who was a 5, and she didn't pass the dick test..

Almost every hot girl went to a pretty boy yesterday too and there were good ratios.. just all taken.

[edtf]

What scene were you at? Sounds like you're in downtown hitting up the rooftop lounges or something. Thats why the old dude in the blazer was playing his niche as sugar daddy, and the pretty boys go and get their pick of the litter. How are you dressing and talking? There might be a better niche for you in Brooklyn or Lower East Side, which is more students/working-class scene. There's more 7's there but less 9's and 10's.

[Blackliter]

I was at lower east side bars.. guess I went to the non-student place.

Ive tried meatpacking and its definitely not my scene..

[SydneyD]

A good pair of sunglasses should do the trick...with the weird staring at least

[Blackliter]

thanks buddy, not really a weird stare, just a double glance which signals too much interest. cutting down on it

[Noir]

(06-29-2014 09:32 AM)Blackliter Wrote:  

Hey guys, things I want to fix so thought id put it out there.

I stare a bit too intently on the first glance, sometimes doing a double look. most girls who gave an IOI then go cold after I double look so trying to work on that. Any suggestions on internalization , its tough because the 2nd look helps decide to go for it or not.

I read double glance and I see excited hot girl looked back. This is what the woman is thinking.

Work the smirk. Hold your eye contact, admire her femininity and let the smirk spread across your face. Your eyes must demonstrate intent and your smirk, playfulness.

It's a manifestation of your confidence. It is like poker, when you can see when someone is serious and is not. Repetition is the father of success here, eye fuck everyone everywhere. A friend of mine (unrelated, psychology major) would go on the tube and eye fuck the shit out of people, by feigning confidence in his eyes. For his behavioural psychology course. It came down to the confidence projected in his eyes.

Ask yourself why you're not confident, work on it. Anything else is just covering up and you are reaching 30% of your true potential.

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I'm not able to stay still for awhile when going out (because I'm looking for approachable girls) . I have to be walking around the bar constantly. Do you guys post up or do the same?

Pick the spot which has the busiest stream of hot girls. The bar is my favourite to chill at before going to the dancefloor. If at a bar, smoking area is my place. A combination of these two is vital (See: nonverbal vs verbal cues).

In NYC, yesterday most of the girls were in groups.. any of the decent looking ones shot down immediately in night game. There was 1 single girl alone, and she was picked up by an older guy in a blazer early in the night just 10 minutes after I spotted her. A ton of cockblocking girlfriends who will just pull the girl back into the group.[/quote]

Get a group and befriend them. What are the logistics?

Do you have a table and bottle service to pimp it out?

Are you just in the club with some friends trying it on?

Are you with a group of guys on a guys night out and 'one of those groups'?

Adapt to your surroundings. At least you are aware of this and seeing that you posted this, you must have given it some thought.
How could you overcome this?

You could go to smoking area (chances are not all of them are smokers and will go out) and speak to the smaller sub groups that split.

You could just dance near them and when one is walking away from the group you could interject. Spin her, whatever.

Tough crowd to please, just go entertain yourself.