Hello, I'm a longtime follower of Roosh, posting under a different name here so as to preserve anonymity.
Here are the facts.
I'm 46 years old, financially successful. I applied game long before I discovered there was a name for it, and essentially humped my way through my 20's and 30's fairly successfully. Notch count in the low three digits, not including pros.
In theory, I "always" wanted to get married and have kids. But the women I dated were unsuitable. Basically (and unconsciously) I did not want the mother of my children to have ridden the cock carrousel. My self-respect wouldn't allow it. So I treated all my girlfriends as passing fancies, instead of looking at them as potential mates. (I suspect that's why I was so successful with them. They sensed my fundamental un-availability.)
In 2012, I met a Ukrainian girl in Western Europe; she was the au pair of some friends. She was 21 at the time we met, a virgin, solid 7 tending to 8.
Long story short, she's now my wife, and we have a one year old child. We're living on this side of the Atlantic. She is a devoted mother (sometimes too devoted, but better too much than too little), extremely dependent on me, not just financially but emotionally. All is copacetic in that relationship, we are likely going to try for baby 2 starting this month, in fact.
This is my first marriage, first child. It had a huge impact on me. Walking hand-in-hand with my very pregnant wife was a powerful emotion. Pushing the stroller with the baby is deeply satisfying. Providing for them soothes something deep within that I did not know existed.
Now that I am no longer living for myself, I am earning more money than ever.
I've come to realize that I want more children than my wife can physically provide—a lot more children. If I'm honest, I'd like 10 or 12. It's a need that I have, and it started with the successful, happily uneventful birth of my first child. It was like a first shot of heroin—and it hooked me. So like any addict, I need more hits.
My plan is . . . simple and likely insane, I suppose: I want to acquire more women, and get them pregnant with my children.
I do not want to randomly impregnate some women and then dump them. I want to bring two or three healthy, attractive women into my home, get them pregnant, and live with them and the kids permanently in my home. I recognize that children are healthy and happy when both parents are around. I want my children near me, I want to see them growing up. And I want my children to be with their mothers, because no one cares for a child better than its mother.
In other words, I want to create a polygamous household. (If only I were Mormon, all my problems would be solved. Unfortunately, I'm not.)
It's not a sex thing. I don't want a polygamous household in order to have threesomes or orgies; I've had them both, and believe me, they weren't as much fun as I thought they'd be.
What I want is to have three, possibly four women permanently living with me, all of them giving me children fairly regularly. With my wife, M., we are planning on four children, one every two years or so. If I could have four women in my household, each giving me four children, I'd be one very happy man.
As I said, my wife is from Ukraine. We go there once or twice a year for a month or so, so she can visit her family. They are lovely people, and they've all accepted me.
Going to Uk. so often, I know my way around. I also have access to other young women, through friends (I have an outside circle of acquaintances unconnected to my wife and her circle) and also online.
This September (or November, depending one some work stuff I'll find out in late July), we're going to Ukraine.
My intention is, while there, start finding a girl to add to my household.
I'm starting this thread because I want to keep a record of my progress in this goal I have. It might not pan out, I might change my mind and realize that this is stupid, or insane.
But this idea of acquiring two or three additional women, and having them bear my children, all of us living under one roof . . . a roof that I provide, a household that I rule . . . it's an incredibly powerful idea, an idea that simply will not let go of my imagination.
The obstacles are few, but they seem formidable.
First, finding a girl who'll join my household and have my children. In Ukraine, girls between 19 and 22 who want a man with whom to have children and leave Ukraine are legion. (It helps that Ukrainian men are lazy drunk penniless assholes.) There are also legions of Uk. girls willing to steal another woman's husband. But a girl willing to have children and live with a man who will not leave his wife? Tricky.
Second, convincing my wife to let this second woman into our household.
I'm not worried about the money aspects, are near-term or long-term. I've done some financial modeling, and my income is such that it's a non-issue.
I'm not worried about the legal aspects either. I don't live in the U.S., but rather another Western Hemisphere country, where the rules are such that I can bend them to my advantage. So no worries about divorce-rape.
I'm not worried about the social stigma/scandal/whatever of living with multiple women. My business is such that my work and social life are completely separate. As to what my friends might think, I could give a shit.
My only concern is time. As I said, I'm 46. I've set myself the goal of finding the second wife by the end of 2015 and getting her pregnant shortly thereafter. I should be finding the third wife by 2018, and the fourth by 2021. The last child I can have is in 2028, when I'm 60. Having children after that would be irresponsible.
I know how insane this all sounds. But this kid-obsession is like heroin, at least to me.
I won't post again until after my next Ukraine trip.
OneIdea
Here are the facts.
I'm 46 years old, financially successful. I applied game long before I discovered there was a name for it, and essentially humped my way through my 20's and 30's fairly successfully. Notch count in the low three digits, not including pros.
In theory, I "always" wanted to get married and have kids. But the women I dated were unsuitable. Basically (and unconsciously) I did not want the mother of my children to have ridden the cock carrousel. My self-respect wouldn't allow it. So I treated all my girlfriends as passing fancies, instead of looking at them as potential mates. (I suspect that's why I was so successful with them. They sensed my fundamental un-availability.)
In 2012, I met a Ukrainian girl in Western Europe; she was the au pair of some friends. She was 21 at the time we met, a virgin, solid 7 tending to 8.
Long story short, she's now my wife, and we have a one year old child. We're living on this side of the Atlantic. She is a devoted mother (sometimes too devoted, but better too much than too little), extremely dependent on me, not just financially but emotionally. All is copacetic in that relationship, we are likely going to try for baby 2 starting this month, in fact.
This is my first marriage, first child. It had a huge impact on me. Walking hand-in-hand with my very pregnant wife was a powerful emotion. Pushing the stroller with the baby is deeply satisfying. Providing for them soothes something deep within that I did not know existed.
Now that I am no longer living for myself, I am earning more money than ever.
I've come to realize that I want more children than my wife can physically provide—a lot more children. If I'm honest, I'd like 10 or 12. It's a need that I have, and it started with the successful, happily uneventful birth of my first child. It was like a first shot of heroin—and it hooked me. So like any addict, I need more hits.
My plan is . . . simple and likely insane, I suppose: I want to acquire more women, and get them pregnant with my children.
I do not want to randomly impregnate some women and then dump them. I want to bring two or three healthy, attractive women into my home, get them pregnant, and live with them and the kids permanently in my home. I recognize that children are healthy and happy when both parents are around. I want my children near me, I want to see them growing up. And I want my children to be with their mothers, because no one cares for a child better than its mother.
In other words, I want to create a polygamous household. (If only I were Mormon, all my problems would be solved. Unfortunately, I'm not.)
It's not a sex thing. I don't want a polygamous household in order to have threesomes or orgies; I've had them both, and believe me, they weren't as much fun as I thought they'd be.
What I want is to have three, possibly four women permanently living with me, all of them giving me children fairly regularly. With my wife, M., we are planning on four children, one every two years or so. If I could have four women in my household, each giving me four children, I'd be one very happy man.
As I said, my wife is from Ukraine. We go there once or twice a year for a month or so, so she can visit her family. They are lovely people, and they've all accepted me.
Going to Uk. so often, I know my way around. I also have access to other young women, through friends (I have an outside circle of acquaintances unconnected to my wife and her circle) and also online.
This September (or November, depending one some work stuff I'll find out in late July), we're going to Ukraine.
My intention is, while there, start finding a girl to add to my household.
I'm starting this thread because I want to keep a record of my progress in this goal I have. It might not pan out, I might change my mind and realize that this is stupid, or insane.
But this idea of acquiring two or three additional women, and having them bear my children, all of us living under one roof . . . a roof that I provide, a household that I rule . . . it's an incredibly powerful idea, an idea that simply will not let go of my imagination.
The obstacles are few, but they seem formidable.
First, finding a girl who'll join my household and have my children. In Ukraine, girls between 19 and 22 who want a man with whom to have children and leave Ukraine are legion. (It helps that Ukrainian men are lazy drunk penniless assholes.) There are also legions of Uk. girls willing to steal another woman's husband. But a girl willing to have children and live with a man who will not leave his wife? Tricky.
Second, convincing my wife to let this second woman into our household.
I'm not worried about the money aspects, are near-term or long-term. I've done some financial modeling, and my income is such that it's a non-issue.
I'm not worried about the legal aspects either. I don't live in the U.S., but rather another Western Hemisphere country, where the rules are such that I can bend them to my advantage. So no worries about divorce-rape.
I'm not worried about the social stigma/scandal/whatever of living with multiple women. My business is such that my work and social life are completely separate. As to what my friends might think, I could give a shit.
My only concern is time. As I said, I'm 46. I've set myself the goal of finding the second wife by the end of 2015 and getting her pregnant shortly thereafter. I should be finding the third wife by 2018, and the fourth by 2021. The last child I can have is in 2028, when I'm 60. Having children after that would be irresponsible.
I know how insane this all sounds. But this kid-obsession is like heroin, at least to me.
I won't post again until after my next Ukraine trip.
OneIdea