This girl seems like a major player (hamster-wise) and is subconsciously shit-testing you hard. You didn't really pass the shit-tests because you feel into a justifying frame. Based on her behavior below, I've gathered she thinks she is hot shit and she can't have a normal conversation w/o testing you relentlessly. It doesn't matter if she has a low notch count or not, girls like this are a major headache and definitely not LTR material.
My advice would be to escalate hard and if it doesn't work out, next it otherwise you'll fall into the 'analysis' pattern where you will be constantly questioning why she does't want you. Don't waste time, it's not something you need to worry about.
Quote: (06-15-2015 10:50 PM)TrentV Wrote:
Turns out she's only had one partner and hasn't kissed very much so she isn't a good kisser and is embarrassed. Who knows if that's the truth.
BS excuses.
Quote: (06-15-2015 10:50 PM)TrentV Wrote:
she told me she friendzones a lot of guys….I told her I wouldn't accept that at all.
'Telling' and 'acting' are a little different. Telling her doesn't create attraction, acting like the hunted, having a very strong frame and treating her like a spoilt brat might.
Quote: (06-15-2015 10:50 PM)TrentV Wrote:
There was kino etc and then she pulls this: "ya so we're really good friends right?
Again with the friends shit.
Quote: (06-15-2015 10:50 PM)TrentV Wrote:
I said: "Ya totally. We can paint each other's nails and just KILL the attraction we have….She repeats the friend zone thing...I'm getting a bit salty so I just ignored it and said "cool!"
Losing frame….losing frame. You don't call out attraction or lack thereof. You escalate. Calling only makes things that are obviously not there more apparent. You are forcing the issue and it is getting to you.
Quote: (06-15-2015 10:50 PM)TrentV Wrote:
Shit test 2: we decided to get dinner after (she paid for drinks and dinner) and we were playing the questions game again. She asked me how many women I've had tinder dates with. I said 5. She asked me over what time frame I said under 2 weeks. She did not really like that. She then asked me how many of them have I been on more than 1 date with. I said 2 (including her) and she "jokingly" said "ok time to go!"
Is she Larry King? Is this a job interview? You should not be giving her direct answers. You should have a toothpick in your mouth, smiling, telling her not to let her little head worry about things like this…just be happy between
all my tinder dating I managed to make time for you.
She is qualifying and you are justifying.
Quote: (06-15-2015 10:50 PM)TrentV Wrote:
I did not apologize for it and said: "haha you're salty now. I don't see it being an issue. it only matters if people are exclusive or not honest about it." she kind of agreed.
More justifying. Don't need to explain anything to her.
Quote: (06-15-2015 10:50 PM)TrentV Wrote:
Shit test 3: [/b]She brought up the friendzone thing again and saying we're friends….She said something about not being able to see anything down the road. I thought she said that about us but she said no, a guy she friendzoned off a tinder date (I asked her how many 2nd dates she's been on tinder and i'm the only one). Then she asked me if I saw something down the road with her or something and I chuckled and said: "we're on our second "business meeting" and I'm not even thinking that far ahead. It's either you want to see someone again or you don't. "
Then she asked me if I had shut the door to romantic possibility and I said "oh I thought you had with the friendzone talk." She said no she hasn't.
2nd date and all this ridiculous conversation has been had. Such a power struggle.
Quote: (06-15-2015 10:50 PM)TrentV Wrote:
This girl seems like she could be decent LTR because of a low partner count and she doesn't give it up easily but might be too much of a headache.
Low partner count isn't the only factor in determining LTR material. Lots of red flags here
Quote: (06-15-2015 10:50 PM)TrentV Wrote:
[/b]right before dinner, she said she was going to show me pics of her friends and she said she could set me up with them. At this point, I thought that date was done especially given all the friendzone shit. I just said: "Oh sure. Give everyone one of them my number."
Come to think of it, this girl is really getting on my nerves.
She has you responding emotionally, already creating drama. Set the tone and the frame and handle it.