Quote: (04-04-2014 10:12 PM)scorpion Wrote:
Quote: (04-04-2014 08:48 PM)Courage Reborn Wrote:
I'm not a history buff, but what you wrote there sounds accurate. With the exception of, Jews were too "arrogant" to leave Germany when Hitler came to power. This is simply not true. At the time, nobody could have predicted the horrors that were about to come our way. By the time the writing was on the wall, it was too late, and Jews couldn't get out unless they had heavyweight connections, or remaining wealth. The movie Schindler's List tells this story better than I can. I'd implore you to see it if you have not already done so.
It's clear you're not a history buff, because nothing you wrote above is close to being accurate. Far from not letting Jews leave, the Nazis were actively encouraging Jews to leave the country throughout the 1930s. At the Evian Conference in 1938, over 30 countries met to discuss allowing German Jews into their countries as political refugees en masse.
Hitler's direct quote regarding the conference: "I can only hope and expect that the other world, which has such deep sympathy for these criminals [Jews], will at least be generous enough to convert this sympathy into practical aid. We, on our part, are ready to put all these criminals at the disposal of these countries, for all I care, even on luxury ships."
So not only was Hitler not closing the borders to Jews, he offered to send them away on luxury cruise ships. The problem is that no country in the West wanted them. Then the war broke out with hundreds of thousands of Jews still living in Germany. Hitler viewed them as a potential threat as spies and saboteurs, and interned them in concentration camps like the U.S. did with its Japanese population.
And Schindler's List is a work of fiction. It's a film based on a novel, which is loosely based on historical events. It's not meant to be a documentary of what actually happened, it's meant to elicit a sympathetic emotional reaction from the viewer. It's a piece of Holocaust propaganda that portrays Jews as righteous victims and Nazis as murderous psychopaths. For example, there's a scene in the film where the Nazi head of the prison camp is randomly shooting Jews from his balcony with a high powered rifle, appearing totally cold and even bored. This is simply an outrageous fabrication, and like many of the claims surrounding the Holocaust (shrunken heads, soap made from human fat) has no basis in reality. It's a propaganda film, pure and simple. The fact that you would pass it off as actually being an accurate historic portrayal would be laughable if it weren't such a common mistake. But such is the power of the Jewish media and entertainment apparatus to produce and disseminate its propaganda.
Why is this sort of Holocaust propaganda continually produced, and why are Holocaust museums scattered across the U.S. and Europe? Norman Finkelstein (a Jew) addressed this topic damningly in his book The Holocaust Industry:
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In an iconoclastic and controversial study, Norman G. Finkelstein moves from an interrogation of the place the Holocaust has come to occupy in American culture to a disturbing examination of recent Holocaust compensation agreements. It was not until the Arab-Israeli War of 1967, when Israel’s evident strength brought it into line with US foreign policy, that memory of the Holocaust began to acquire the exceptional prominence it enjoys today. Leaders of America’s Jewish community were delighted that Israel was now deemed a major strategic asset and, Finkelstein contends, exploited the Holocaust to enhance this newfound status. Their subsequent interpretations of the tragedy are often at variance with actual historical events and are employed to deflect any criticism of Israel and its supporters. Recalling Holocaust fraudsters such as Jerzy Kosinski and Binjamin Wilkomirski, as well as the demagogic constructions of writers like Daniel Goldhagen, Finkelstein contends that the main danger posed to the memory of Nazism’s victims comes not from the distortions of Holocaust deniers but from prominent, self-proclaimed guardians of Holocaust memory. Drawing on a wealth of untapped sources, he exposes the double shakedown of European countries as well as legitimate Jewish claimants, and concludes that the Holocaust industry has become an outright extortion racket. Thoroughly researched and closely argued, The Holocaust Industry is all the more disturbing and powerful because the issues it deals with are so rarely discussed.
Essentially, the Holocaust story gives Jews carte blanche to get away with a lot of shit since they can claim victim status while in actuality being the most powerful and advantaged minority group in the world. More interestingly, the Holocaust has actually become a sort of secular Jewish religion that further unites all Jews and serves to heap guilt on whites at the same time. So naturally when dealt such a trump card, the Jews play it as much as they can get away with.
Scorpion really lifts the veil here, relating how the German Nazis were not alone in discriminating against Jews. Actually, rampant antisemitism worldwide enabled the Holocaust as the countries represented at the Evian conference REFUSED to grant entry to Jews made stateless by Nazi control of Germany beyond the already small numbers allowed in yearly.
To give an idea of the level of antisemitism in the US in that period;
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In a 1938 poll, approximately 60 percent of the respondents held a low opinion of Jews, labeling them “greedy,” “dishonest,” and “pushy.”[23] 41 percent of respondents agreed that Jews had "too much power in the United States," and this figure rose to 58 percent by 1945. In 1939 a Roper poll found that only thirty-nine percent of Americans felt that Jews should be treated like other people. Fifty-three percent believed that "Jews are different and should be restricted" and ten percent believed that Jews should be deported.[24] Several surveys taken from 1940 to 1946 found that Jews were seen as a greater threat to the welfare of the United States than any other national, religious, or racial group.[25]
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Going by those numbers and others, it becomes obvious that politicians in the US could and would have been elected on a largely antisemitic platform.
Basically, the Holocaust would have been prevented had the rest of the world simply allowed the immigration of the stateless German Jews.
Thing is the rest of the world didn't want them either.
The result today is that many groups and individuals have co-opted the use of the Holocaust to shout down opposition to their views by simply comparing seemingly any contrasting position to Hitler. Fact is the countries that refused entry to the refugees were complicit in their genocide.
This is not to say that I believe other countries would have exterminated Jews as a matter of policy. However, it was common knowledge to those in power what was happening in Germany and little to nothing was done about it, nor was it publicized until the concentration camps were liberated at the end of the war. The liberation of the camps lifted the lid of secrecy.
Fun fact-Sosua in the DR, a haven for expats and hookers, was originally set up for German Jewish refugees.
Edit-Take away the extermination of people he felt were a threat to his country, and Hitler can be seen in a very different light.
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