Quote: (06-04-2015 12:40 PM)Gosh900 Wrote:
What are you talking about? I've never said networking isn't important...I just said that high performing ivy league friends or guys with a GPA of 4 are usually useless because they have zero social skills.
Actually, this is what you stated:
Quote: (06-04-2015 12:40 PM)Gosh900 Wrote:
If you like them, it's okay for me! I just said I'd never hang out with them because they are losers socially. Who cares about their academic achievement. I'm not giving away nobel prizes.
This is a strawman argument. I didn't say anything about their academic achievement and you didn't initially say anything about them being social losers. This is what you said and what many are pointing out as flawed:
Quote: (06-03-2015 02:56 PM)Gosh900 Wrote:
I, personally, don't care about that. I mean, companies look at your curriculum and your work experiences in deciding whether to hire you or not...they don't care about your ivy league friends.
Perhaps you need to fully explain your reasoning, because the above statement on it's face is at best short-sighted and at worst outright false.
Quote: (06-04-2015 12:40 PM)Gosh900 Wrote:
Moreover, for me "social circle" and "network" are synonymous....when I say a social circle is important I indirectly say that a network of people is important....but the people I deem important are different than yours.
There is a subtle difference between the two. As defined on dictionary.com/Wikipedia:
Networking: a supportive system of sharing information and services among individuals and groups having a common interest
Social Circle: A social circle is a group of socially interconnected people. A social circle may be viewed from the perspective of an individual who is the locus of a particular group of socially interconnected people and from the perspective of the group as a cohesive unit. | Social circles tend to have unique sets of norms and values. Individuals who do not comply with them may be ostracized, admonished, or even embarrassed by other members of the group.
A practical example, personally I have:
Social Circle - All kinds of groups of friends that I hang out with, usually through common interests or friends, but always people I actually hang out with socially at least a few times a year. My social circle has multiple tiers but outside of the tightest knit tier, many of the people can come/go depending on a variety of factors. Some people I get tired of, some people move away or drop out of my social circle of their own volition.
Network - Lawyers, accountants, contractors, bar/club employees, former coworkers, current coworkers, entrepreneurs, photographers, etc... Some of these people are also in my social circle but many of them I see or interact with rarely, but when I need advice or help or services from these people they are the first people I call and I am able to get either free or hugely discounted expert help from them. The value I can provide to them is varied depending on their needs. My network grows, but generally social aspects don't affect it much.
Further, many of the people in this thread would like you to explain why you state the following. It appears on the surface to be complete game denialism, but perhaps you have further depth to the statement that makes it relevant:
Quote: (06-03-2015 02:56 PM)Gosh900 Wrote:
After university I believe only money can save a guy....he needs to play the "bottle service" card and befriend the promoters and club owners of high end clubs. In other words he has to play the "fool" (ie he has to make other people rich) to gain access to gorgeous women.