[Nonpareil]

(12-29-2010 03:17 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

(12-29-2010 01:53 PM)Nonpareil Wrote:  

* - Canadian side is still pretty dope though.

Can you break this down for us?

Mixx

I'm fuck as sick and can't say no to anyone whose advice has gotten me laid before, so here goes. This is more of a quasi-entry as opposed to a full-on data sheet, but whatever, I'm glad to help. Anyone with anything to add, add it.

Overview: It's easy to forget that Niagara Falls is a small town (year round population is about 70,000) that gets heavy tourism, probably in the vein of 10,000,000 annually. This creates a weird vibe; the people (and the women) are fairly friendly in that small-town Canadian way, but they maintain a sort of worldly appearance for the sake of the outsiders. Every girl I've ever banged from the falls was sweet, but at the same time thought she was smarter or better than she really was.

It's also fairly centralized around the falls; Stanley Ave., the Niagara Pkwy. and Clifton Hill, where you'll probably spend 90% of your time is all within walking distance of each other.

The girls are predominantly white and there are lots of Asian tourists.

The time to hit is anywhere from mid-May to early October. The weather is the best then.

After transport and accomodations, for a good weekend you should have at least $1000. Remember that it's not a big city so you don't NEED to have crazy cash, but baseline expenditures (including dining, nightlife and shopping) will run around $500 for a weekend, so bring twice that, especially if you plan to gamble. It's pricey but not crazy, and like any other place its better to have too much money than not enough.

To get there you can fly into Buffalo International (BNIA) and take the I290 until it turns to the 190 and cross at the Rainbow Bridge, or you can land at Pearson International in Toronto (YYZ) and take the 401 to the 403 to the QEW to the 406 finally to the 58-57 which leads you right in.

I'd say that the Buffalo way is quicker but I would think the Toronto way is preferable for a few reasons; first, Buffalo is weak and Toronto is awesome, and second, you never know how long a border crossing is going to take, especially on a weekend.

Coming in from the US you need a valid passport.

Yes, there are twin cities, one in Canada and one in the US...don't bother with the US version. The difference between them is as big as the difference between Toronto and Buffalo. NF Canada - Faux Vegas, NF USA - Rust belt.

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First things first; you get a lot of 19 and 20 year old American girls taking advanage of the lowered drinking age partying on the Canadian side (19 v. 21). If you like that (as I do) it's an easily exploitable option.

If you want high-end night game hit Dragonfly (in Fallsview Casino); it's your typical upscale night club with more of an eastern-theme, pricey (a shock to no one, cover ranges from $5 during the week to over $50 on special occasions) but there's lots of talent, the in-house DJ (forget his name) is pretty good and apparently they get some top guys in there spinning (Oakenfold, MIA, AM before he left etc., etc.,) from time to time. If it's your thing and you're in the area it's the place to hit, get on the guest list and bring lots of cash. Apparently its got a bit of a rep; I know people in Cali that know about it and have been there and love it.

If your tastes skew less upscale and more douchey, try Rumors, though every time I've been it got super rammed, like fire-hazard rammed, but it is less expensive and will offer easier pulls for the newly initiated and financially challenged. I have never been to Se7en and have heard mixed things.

Stella's (in St. Catharines) is sort of a middle-ground, an Italian-Spanish ristorante with the upscale club thrown in...only drawback is that St. Catharines kinda sucks otherwise, is about half an hour by cab from Niagara Falls and the girls are really no more or more less fly.

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The only restaurant I ate at was Copacabana, which is a Brazilian-style steakhouse and is pretty good. Since I wasn't the most liquid when I was there I can't really offer any insight into fine dining, though I'm sure there are some gems.

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Of the two casinos (Casino Niagara and Fallsview Casino) I prefer Fallsview just because I've had some nice luck at the tables in the past, it has Dragonfly and the hotel (IMO) is better but Casino Niagara is more centrally located; take your pick.

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Really though, it's a place made for daygame. there's always girls in and out of the headshops, candy shops, the haunted houses, the wax museums and all of that tacky tourist-trap stuff that girls can't seem to get enough of. It's a crowded spot though, but if your game lacks shame you'll pull easy.

Clifton Hill is ground zero for daygame, and I have had success there. Lots of couples, but where aren't there lots of couples? Also groups of girls. I personally think that faux glitter is tacky as shit, but I go where the women are. It's like a faux-Vegas type scene. Canadian NF is clearly going for a family-friendly Vegas marketing angle.

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I'm not a huge strip club guy and only went to the Penthouse Club, which was dope except for the fact that it's kind of out in the middle of nowhere.

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Port Dalhousie is a sleepy little beachtown-cottage type spot near St. Catharines. There are literally dozens of bars and clubs just packed into a tiny area (the biggest and best being My Cottage, which is an outdoor patio-dance club type place), and if you can get there in early September (it closes in October until...Victoria Day in May I believe) you will be up to your ass in drunken university and college students.

Even still, in the summer its a great place to grab a beer on the patio and chill, looking across the lake at the Toronto skyline.

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For the ideal weekend, book a room in one of the casinos, party at Dragonfly, spend the day loafing around the Falls and shooting game on Clifton Hill, maybe hit one of the strip clubs, do some gambling and go from there. I've heard good things about the spa at Fallsview but have never went. Hit St. Cath and Dalhousie, but only if you have more than a weekend to burn.

NP

[MiXX]

Excellent! +1 from me. Question:
You said the 18/19 yo girls go over to take advantage of the lower age restriction, but what venues can these girls be found, and are they DTF or are there to just drink with 4 cock-blocking teeny-bopper girlfriends? Give us your take on specifically gaming these type of younger girls, it's my experience they are flaky as shit.

Mixx

[Nonpareil]

(12-30-2010 03:02 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

Excellent! +1 from me. Question:
You said the 18/19 yo girls go over to take advantage of the lower age restriction, but what venues can these girls be found, and are they DTF or are there to just drink with 4 cock-blocking teeny-bopper girlfriends? Give us your take on specifically gaming these type of younger girls, it's my experience they are flaky as shit.

Mixx

It's actually just the 19-20 year old crowd, and they're basically the same as your typical girl of that age; no sense of style, taste or class. As such, it's rare to find them in a place like Dragonfly (though there are exceptions). I've seen them in the casinos, in Rumors, in fucking Montanas. They aren't too liquid, so they go wherever its cheap.

Mostly though, you tend to see them during the day in places like Screamers or Nightmares (the haunted house), Rainforest Cafe, walking Clifton Hill, taking pics of the falls (I have been girl-opened with 'Excuse me, can you take a picture of me and my friends by the falls for us?' on more than one time) and doing the basic tourist trap thing that the town relies on to make its money.


One trip in particular, me and a buddy went down there for a weekend in July. Before booking we had about $1500 each. We booked two rooms at Fallsview (about $300 each), got on the list for VIP at Dragonfly (we booked 8 spots, even though there were just two of us plus two of my girlfriends down there were planning to join us) and just basically did a bar-hop/daygame session in suits (there's lots of douchey guys in the falls, but again, they're everywhere).

We ran into a roving girl-crew near the falls of five girls from somewhere upstate who were all 20 and ranged from decent to excellent and just ran our game. Your game is tight and I know this, so you know as well as I do that with younger girls you'll want to backburner the status-jockeying and just build attraction, which we did with flirtatious banter, good kino and a light, fun personality. They were in town to see the falls and 'Get drunk and have fun weooo!'

My buddy later launched a text saying we had the VIP in Dragonfly and to dress nice and come out for some drinks. This was a money move because I think they were staying in some shit hotel and had no solid plan. Three of them, including the best two showed up and we drank, danced and had some fun and then later went to gamble, and I believe it was this night that my buddy hit back-to-back in Blackjack and won over three grand. He fucked the best looking one, I shacked up with one of my exes who lived nearby.

Honestly, it's probably what you would do anyways that will work. Look good, build attraction, number close, offer them a better time then they would have had and know the town.

I would say that it's even easier than usual because these girls are from out of town; any boyfriends are out of the picture and they have no issue being whores, and they don't really know the area well. If you know the area, have game and have a good night planned you can minimize most of the risks of flaking.

[Rang off the Pipe]

Any updates on this place? I'm thinking of heading there at the end of the month for one day and night (I'll be solo). Is it necessary to stay in a hotel in one of the casinos or am I good simply getting somewhere near the Clifton Hill area?