[Pinocchio]

ordered. Thanks for the review.

[Frost]

Here's an idea for the guys who think $100 is too much for the book.

Go pirate Daygame Nitro. It is an incredible book. Then, reflect on how much more effort Krauser put into Mastery, and how much more experience he's gained in the past two years.

Based on the quality of Nitro, I would be very surprised if Day Game Mastery is anything less than one of the greatest seduction products ever released.

[Blondelover]

I finished reading the book yesterday, and overall it is a good book, very detailed and graphic.

There is very little "new" material though. I gained the most value from the chapter on long-game, which there is practically no literature on in the community. The rest of the book is pretty much an explanation of the same old game theory we all love and adore.

I don't regret buying the book at all, but I think it will bring little value to those who have been practicing game for more than a few months. It is a must-buy for newbies who a serious about getting into the game.

But, it is still a useful reference guide, kind of an encyclopedia you check out if you forgot some particular detail.

[MisterFresh]

Based on Krauser's other material, I'm sure this book is worth reading.

As for me, even though I have intellectual interest in the subject, I've decided I won't be reading a new game book until I do 100 daygame approaches. http://www.rooshv.com/less-knowledge-is-more

[Giovonny]

(03-12-2014 03:35 PM)w00t Wrote:  

I still believe the overall ROI on daygame is pretty bad though.

That is very subjective right???

It all depends on what our "investment" was and what we consider to be a "pretty bad" return..

In my last 125 approaches or so, I have gotten an 18yo, a 19yo, and a 20yo.

I am actually very happy with my ROI.

(03-12-2014 03:35 PM)w00t Wrote:  

Its just a big numbers game.

I can't argue with that.

I actually like that fact that it is a "numbers game".

I know that if I just do my approaches I will eventually get results.

My "numbers" are improving every year.

(03-12-2014 03:35 PM)w00t Wrote:  

you can spend hours walking around finding enough hot girls to approach.

True. This is why I game strictly on university campuses.

Thousands of hot girls all in one place. It usually takes less then a minute or two to find another approachable girl.

(03-12-2014 03:35 PM)w00t Wrote:  

Then you also have to go on a Day2 which eats up even more of your time.

Yes.

I do have to take these girls on dates and that does take time.

I try to do the most efficient dates possible. Smoking weed and/or drinking at my house is my #1 option. I try to steer all dates back to my couch.

(03-12-2014 03:35 PM)w00t Wrote:  

Im a very busy guy and running around approaching hundreds of girls seems like a waste of time to me.

Start small. Start simple. Just take 2 hours..

Go to the nearest large university. Approach 10 girls. See what happens..

You will probably get a number or 2. Try to set a date.

You might get a cute college girl from one of those 10 approaches..

If not, go back the next week and try again.

That's how I started. Except, I went everyday.

(03-12-2014 03:35 PM)w00t Wrote:  

Ideally you'd be living in a city with multiple million inhabitants and lots of hot girls. And cycle through your venues regularly.

Yup.

I live in a big city and I rotate between a variety of colleges and universities.

(03-12-2014 03:35 PM)w00t Wrote:  

I keep thinking there has to be a better way though.

Certainly, there are better ways!

Online, "Seeking Arrangement", fame, status, travel, etc.

Use the tool that works best for you!

(03-12-2014 03:35 PM)w00t Wrote:  

Then again I dont see why you would need an expensive ebook at this point!

A good book will just help you evolve faster and with a more focused direction and game plan.

The experience and wisdom of a good teacher can be very helpful.

(03-12-2014 05:00 PM)Menace Wrote:  

Another thing: the investment is not that great if all you want is just to add 1 or 2 girls to your rotation.

Exactly.

That is how I look at it.

I approach as needed.

If I don't have any female companionship. I will approach until I do.

Once I have 1 or 2 girls. I stop approaching.

I currently have an 18yo, a 19yo, and a 20yo.

I haven't approached a girl in weeks, maybe months..

I am satisfied.

*****

Don't look at it like you have to approach 100 or 1000 girls.

Just approach 10 and see what happens..

[Don Cojones]

Sorry to hijack thread, but out of curiosity I just picked up a pirated version of the System and it's actually pretty damn funny and insightful.

Not revolutionary, but very red pill and without the paranoid tendencies you sometimes see in the manosphere.

A solid 'girl friend'/wife manual.

Thanks, Vaun!

(02-23-2014 10:43 PM)Vaun Wrote:  

(02-23-2014 08:03 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

@Vaun

what book?

The System by Doc Love. Found it way before his Askmen articles. Still think the main tenants hold true for building attraction over several dates, 2-5 mainly, he says the first 60 days, but thats if you want a GF. But I would apply this to someone you want to see regularly, its all about creating the long game frame. It also opened up my eyes on how to evaluate women, i.e. red flags, which funny enough 15 years ago hold true today. What he calls 'Challenge' talking less or as little as possible, divulging as little about yourself as possible, remaining a mystery without being 'Mystery'. Roosh talks about this too, dropping 'bait', but remaining innocuous about it and never fully answering questions or explaining anything about yourself. Works like a charm and if I follow it, its gets women to say 'I love you' fairly quickly. He talks nothing about approaching, at all... No regrets spending $100 on it. Well written quality materials should be worth whatever the author wants to charge. Who am I to tell someone they should only charge so much for their work. I can see complaining about the price if its a low quality product or a scam, but that doesnt apprear to be the case here.

[bojangles]

I've just posted my review of this on my blog. I can't see how it wouldn't help any daygamers on here

[dies irae]

I've been to Odessa, Kharkiv (Ukraine) and Riga (Latvia). I approached hundreds of girls with zero success rate. It's actually too painful to see all these beautiful girls around and not being able to pull any. Krauser is gaming through eastern Europe and 2.7 out of 100 is an amazing rate.

I live in Thailand now. As Rio Nomad noted, it's really a bitch to get something mailed here. I don't care about the 100 usd price tag. If it's available on kindle, I would give that 100 usd in the blink of an eye.

[Atlantic]

Krasuer can you tell me how you first approached day game.

Did you do a certain amount of time a week or just dabbled here and there?

Also can you outline what resources you used or did you start from scratch?

Thanks

[Checkmat]

Related, I'd be interested in hearing how well Krauser's direct style works in America. All of his approaches are based on European women often not even Western women even.

[Matt3B]

(06-22-2014 01:56 AM)Checkmat Wrote:  

Related, I'd be interested in hearing how well Krauser's direct style works in America. All of his approaches are based on European women often not even Western women even.

Some of us English guys would clean up over there. Western girls are much easier to game than European girls.

This book is gold, for what it's worth. Would highly recommend it to everyone.

[Moma]

Checkmat - You get an edge in America being British. I speak from personal experience..America very much thinks the English accent is distinguished.

You will need game of course, you can't just walk in and drop them on your willies..but it will give you an edge..just like having a muscular body gives you an edge.

[Krauser]

(06-20-2014 11:51 PM)Atlantic Wrote:  

Krasuer can you tell me how you first approached day game.

Did you do a certain amount of time a week or just dabbled here and there?

Also can you outline what resources you used or did you start from scratch?

Thanks

"Krauser, can you do all of the work for me? Even though we've never met and I've not offered you a single thing."

There's your problem. Rodgers-level entitlement. You won't like the book.

[Matt3B]

(06-22-2014 08:09 AM)Moma Wrote:  

Checkmat - You get an edge in America being British. I speak from personal experience..America very much thinks the English accent is distinguished.

You will need game of course, you can't just walk in and drop them on your willies..but it will give you an edge..just like having a muscular body gives you an edge.

Yep, agreed. The accent goes over superbly, but you still need to have something about you.

Anyway, I digress.

[RexImperator]

(06-22-2014 08:10 AM)Krauser Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 11:51 PM)Atlantic Wrote:  

Krasuer can you tell me how you first approached day game.

Did you do a certain amount of time a week or just dabbled here and there?

Also can you outline what resources you used or did you start from scratch?

Thanks

"Krauser, can you do all of the work for me? Even though we've never met and I've not offered you a single thing."

There's your problem. Rodgers-level entitlement. You won't like the book.

Atlantic, if you watch the London Real interview on YouTube (which is worthwhile) he answers that question.

[Benoit]

I promised a review, and having gone back and forth on what to write, here's my views.


This isn't a how-to guide that will guide you through the first approach, it's a genuine textbook and reference guide for daygamers. Don't expect to get through it in a couple of hours.

Honestly, I'm not good enough to get the most out of this book. I doubt there are many in the world who are truly at the level required. I still learnt a huge amount from it, but the only way to truly absorb it all is to do a lot of daygame. Only by reflecting on many sets can you integrate the knowledge. I've been putting in the work since I first read it, and I keep going back to discover new insights.

There are lots of examples in each section, provided not as "here's some lines you can use", but as detailed breakdowns, complete with the thought process and motivations behind them. It's metacognition - you will learn how to think about daygaming, not what to think.

The texting section is a good example of this, there are many conversations but no 'Krauser lines', the book provides the conceptual framework to build your own personal style.

Would I recommend it? If you have any interest in daygame then absolutely. But you will need to be willing to put in the work alongside it. I imagine that's partly why the price is so high, if you can't bring yourself to spend £60 on a book how can you do the hundreds of hours on the streets to learn the lessons?

[Atlantic]

(06-22-2014 08:10 AM)Krauser Wrote:  

(06-20-2014 11:51 PM)Atlantic Wrote:  

Krasuer can you tell me how you first approached day game.

Did you do a certain amount of time a week or just dabbled here and there?

Also can you outline what resources you used or did you start from scratch?

Thanks

"Krauser, can you do all of the work for me? Even though we've never met and I've not offered you a single thing."

There's your problem. Rodgers-level entitlement. You won't like the book.

Ha easy buddy. I day game quite a bit already although I won't say advanced (1-2 new girls a month). I read through your website at work last night and had a feeling Id get a response like this.The reasons for which you have outlined on your site. Im fine with that.

Was more interested in your prospective on the reasons some people succeed while others fail. Again you have outlined that on your site already so I can see your prospective there.

As for entitlement you can read back through my posts and see what I have achieved from scratch and the people I helped. You probably wouldnt but your character presumptions are way off. Ill let you off this time since I get the same way on the Oil Sands thread with people asking basic questions repetitively.

[Atlantic]

@RexImperator

Cool. Ill check that out. Had a good read of his website last night too which has answered a lot of my questions.
I understand that people get burnt out repeating advice without any apparent value offered in return. I know I do.
Ive gotten too used to people on here who are happy to answer such questions and break things down.

Its a fair point though that Ill take on board about entitlement/offering value.

Krasuer did you used to have/still have a forum as part of that website?

[Krauser]

(06-22-2014 02:51 PM)Atlantic Wrote:  

Ha easy buddy. I day game quite a bit already although I won't say advanced (1-2 new girls a month). I read through your website at work last night and had a feeling Id get a response like this.The reasons for which you have outlined on your site. Im fine with that.

No harm, no foul. Like you said, I've answered all these questions on my blog.

[Krauser]

(06-22-2014 12:28 PM)Benoit Wrote:  

I promised a review, and having gone back and forth on what to write, here's my views.


This isn't a how-to guide that will guide you through the first approach, it's a genuine textbook and reference guide for daygamers. Don't expect to get through it in a couple of hours.

Honestly, I'm not good enough to get the most out of this book. I doubt there are many in the world who are truly at the level required. I still learnt a huge amount from it, but the only way to truly absorb it all is to do a lot of daygame. Only by reflecting on many sets can you integrate the knowledge. I've been putting in the work since I first read it, and I keep going back to discover new insights.

There are lots of examples in each section, provided not as "here's some lines you can use", but as detailed breakdowns, complete with the thought process and motivations behind them. It's metacognition - you will learn how to think about daygaming, not what to think.

The texting section is a good example of this, there are many conversations but no 'Krauser lines', the book provides the conceptual framework to build your own personal style.

Would I recommend it? If you have any interest in daygame then absolutely. But you will need to be willing to put in the work alongside it. I imagine that's partly why the price is so high, if you can't bring yourself to spend £60 on a book how can you do the hundreds of hours on the streets to learn the lessons?

Thanks for taking the time to post a review. It was a pleasure to read.

[Tengen]

Just wanted to say your interview with London Real was pretty cool, Krauser:

[BootNootly]

I bought Nitro recently and Krauser's disclaimer about how he avoids approaching native English-speakers seems to be pretty big, as disclaimers go.

I don't see much reason for conflict between Roosh's "pet shop" method and Krauser's London Method.

Roosh honed his indirect method in Colombia, a country with moderate to high crime, plenty of alpha males, and girls who rarely travel in 1-sets, even during the day.

Krauser honed his direct method in low-crime, feminist London, where girls flock for education and career goals.

[Bushido]

(06-29-2014 01:01 PM)BootNootly Wrote:  

Krauser honed his direct method in low-crime, feminist London, where girls flock for education and career goals.

Low crime?

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

[bojangles]

(06-29-2014 11:17 PM)dreambig Wrote:  

(06-29-2014 01:01 PM)BootNootly Wrote:  

Krauser honed his direct method in low-crime, feminist London, where girls flock for education and career goals.

Low crime?

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Yeah haha, low crime :laugh

@Atlantic - he's never had a forum mate, just comments.

@Moma/MattC - I've daygamed in the US using my british accent and been direct, works a charm I must say though I was only there for a short period of time I must digress.

[The Reactionary Tree]

Krauser, have you day gamed any American broads?