[BalanceLife]

Third night
It's my third night gaming in SZ and I asked the American girl that I made out with for a date. Two nights before at a club we chatted for close to an hour before hitting the dance floor for another hour. I went back with her but didn't get to step into her apartment when she shouted at me (drunk and major LMR). So now I am on a first date with her which I just plough and plough, in the end it was a no go as once we step out from the bar she ordered her Uber (Didi), so nothing happened.

Forth night
Coincidentally a girl that I was hanging out without really thinking of gaming says she is visiting SZ and wants to meet, sensing major IOIs I decided to work on her. So I setup a date on my forth night here. I asked her to meet me directly at my hotel and ask her to go up with me. Once up we took some whiskey, some banter and made out. Since she was having period I could only rub my little brother between her legs and came then came on her.

Fifth night
I was super tired from work but decided to hit the club. No time to lose and slept in taxi on the way to bar street! When I got there the party was already started so I just opened a two sets which totally ignored me, and a random guy was ordering drinks so we hit up a chat, lucky enough he was with the table with chics I want to talk to, he invited me over and I game softly and the guys were mostly welcoming. It's an expat crowd so you have people from all over so every was recpectful and no one tried to push me out. To my credit, I did play it well talking to both sexes and showed genuine interest in their journey to Shenzhen. I gamed one Latina for a while but later found out that she's married and don't think she is gonna make out with me in front of her colleague so I ejected and by then it was 2:30am and I went home. I was an OK night, I gave two hours and though didn't have anything to take home, but the two hours was quite enjoyable.

Total: two openings in the club, two follow up dates, 1 (almost) close with everything minus penetration.

Observations:
I still pick girls to open, mostly focusing on foreigners in China. One is because my genuine interest in these ladies, another is because I get nervous speaking Chinese (Cantonese) which is weird because as an ABC they should love it. IRONY. I realized I don't want to look nervous in front of them.

By opening foreign girls and hanging out with the foreign crowd, there is a subtle attention that you get in the club, so that's a good thing - from both ladies and boys.

Overall improvement whereby I can open easily when stepping into the club, not needing alcohol to open.

Daygame is still hard, I usually open only 3 sets for two hour stroll. It sucks not being able to take charge and go on an opening spree.

Being able to get physical quick, I manage to hold both girls hand and be touchy on the first follow up dates, I usually start touching them when there's an exciting topic and their facial features get more excited. I didn't have any resistance, maybe a little pull back which I just put my hands on their legs and after a few minutes pulled back and then start touching again. I used to have very sweaty palms and felt awkward so this is a MAJOR IMPROVEMENT for me.

Girls look uglier in the day than they do during night game. Happened to me twice.

[Robert High Hawk]

This is a data sheet?

This belongs in the game forum. Look at what other good data sheets are like. It's not about you.

[BalanceLife]

(04-29-2019 12:18 PM)Robert High Hawk Wrote:  

This is a data sheet?

This belongs in the game forum. Look at what other good data sheets are like. It's not about you.

Hey man, thanks for the heads up. Didn't know I am mixing the forum categories up, have started a thread in the newbie section.

[BalanceLife]

May nights
Remember I now live in a hotel in a Chinese city called Shenzhen. The night and day game are broken down into time when I am alone without friends or colleagues.

One night I number closed a Chinese girl at my hotel lounge. She’s my type but is leaving soon for holidays at another Chinese city. So there wasn’t any progress but still it felt good to number close a quality set and we created connection as we chatted for over half an hour. Hopefully she comes back to Shenzhen soon and we can reconnect.

A few nights later I am went out with an English girl I number closed at the club. She suggested red wine by the beach so for me it's game on, she didn't create so much eye contacts and social queues at the beach, but we chatted well into in midnight, which by then I tried to be touchy after three hours of talking, mainly by carassing her hands and touching he cheek, it didn't take long until she came over and kiss me. We started making out by the beach and then she suggested we leave. There was resistance when we waited for the bus, she said "mine is this direction, yours is that" but I just stayed on in the same bus station and waited until her bus came which I hop on with her. I stayed calm and didn't react to questions like "Oh, you are still around bla bla bla" so in the end she rationalize the whole process by saying "oh so you are sending me back", which I just smiled and say yes. When we got into her place, we had a bit more chatting and banter. The rest was history and I came twice that night. The next day was equally well which we had a few more chats, walked down the park at her apartment and I left her by late morning heading back.

I had a good night's rest and the second night after my close I invited another girl to my place. I played in natural by just leading her to the subway and she started starring at me devilishly and started questioning me when am I leading her, she kept throwing questions at me, accusing me of a player bla bla bla, but still following me to my place nonetheless. I could only smile and say "yea, I am bringing you to the hotel" half innocently and half with a smirk. Once in the room she continued throwing questions at me such as if I have girlfriend or wife. She wanted to make sure that she was not in the way of any relationship and was fine with an open relationship, after we established the idea that it will be an open relationship, we started making out and then made love. After sex, we chatted a bit more, had simple dinner and parted ways.

Lessons learnt
I am extremely lucky to get back into the game and close two girls in the first week of May. It also helped me boost my confidence of opening four sets the day after the second lay, confidence breeds confidence. I was confident enough to open a tall girl which speaks Chinese - I mentioned before I have anxiety speaking Cantonese to girls, some issues with my ABC identity, that day I could briefly shed this anxiety and opened her twice, she avoided me once and I continued opening her the second time. I also opened three sets that day so I am happy that the momentum kept going.

Apart from a girl who studied in England, I realized most girls were not warm to day game in Shenzhen and Taipei, in fact that girl who studied in England I could create the chemistry because she was sitting and waiting at the hotel. I don't think I should create this stigma that day game is harder, so I am just making a statement but will not reduce my day game frequencies.

Due to my own issues, I have the idea of "Oh she is from Thailand, she must be easier to game", "Oh she is from Hong Kong, she probably looks down on me on my broken Cantonese, or think I am a return FOB" internal issues like this make me stereotype girls, which is not helpful. I should treat all girls equal, as do I treat all human being.

i can become physical more comfortably, back then I used to worry that girls will worry about my sweaty and cold palms, I still have such issues, but by being clearerer with logistics and maybe slightly more at ease, I didn't break into sweat the few times I became physical and it allowed me to touch at ease. I know this is weird for guys who has sweat issues, I have had palmar hidrosis which is a sweat syndrom since small. I still wonder if it's my mental state that caused this since I was a kid, for example my palms now are slightly sweaty even though I am in an air conditioned room.

So far in May I have approached about four sets. A notable set is the tall girl I mentioned in Hong Kong, and also a Brazilian girl sun tanning by my hotel pool. Both were flakes and politely ignore me but it also felt liberating to not be needy and just smile and walk away.

[Bienvenuto]

(08-17-2016 05:27 PM)Fortis Wrote:  

Never watched Serpentza and you guys aren't making me want to either.

Just bumping this.

Follow the guy on ADV China channel sometimes but he and his friend seem NPC normies with very beta life experience.

The reason for the bump though being my favourite Serpentza story.

In his videos he used to ride around talking to Chinese people with subtitles for all that the Chinese said.

And in one of his videos a bunch of little kids walk up to him while he's sitting down at a cafe. Little girl says something.. not translated.

In the comments section a Chinese guy translates: "You look like a woman with a silly beard"
Think that comment got deleted.

Its a small thing, but it made me laugh..

I hear great things about Shenzhen.