[DetlefMourning]

My best friend's younger brother is about 26 years old, has a bachelor's degree in finance. Decent-looking guy, not Clooney or Pitt but not Quasimodo either. He's been dating a Lindy West-sized porker for the past couple years and recently got engaged to her.

His older brother, my best friend, is pretty familiar with red pill principles and is worried sick about this slow-motion trainwreck catastrophe. He feels like he can't say anything himself to his younger brother without incurring his wrath and causing him to dig in his heels even further. We can't figure it out. Is he worried he'll be alone? He still lives at home with their dad so this might be a way to move out of the house. He probably makes low-thirties since he resides in the recent college grad/entry-level part of the job market. His brother fears that as he gets older and moves up professionally and stays in shape (the guy is skinny as a beanpole), he'll come to hate himself for marrying a fattie and cursing himself for leaving better pussy on the table. He wants me to intervene and talk to the guy but I don't know how I can tell him "Don't be stupid and marry a fat chick when you're fresh out of college" without causing major offense. I feel like my best shot is to frame this as anti-marriage in general and not anti-his fat fiancee, give him the soft sell as "marriage is not the right move at this stage of your life." The guy to my knowledge has not been exposed to the manosphere.

[Patriarch]

That's a tough one. One of my friends left the army and married his first girlfriend at the age of 18. She is frumpy and now a porker. They sit around and eat fast food for every meal and there is always a cake or cupcakes made when I visit. He is getting fat now too, and they have a kid. I wish I could give you advice, but honestly haven't we all been there? Dating someone who is a shit choice but we thought we were in love? I don't think there is anything you can do without making him resent you and his brother.

[DetlefMourning]

(12-28-2013 12:27 AM)Sweet Pea Wrote:  

That's a tough one. One of my friends left the army and married his first girlfriend at the age of 18. She is frumpy and now a porker. They sit around and eat fast food for every meal and there is always a cake or cupcakes made when I visit. He is getting fat now too, and they have a kid. I wish I could give you advice, but honestly haven't we all been there? Dating someone who is a shit choice but we thought we were in love? I don't think there is anything you can do without making him resent you and his brother.

When I was his age I was a huge dork. I couldn't have done much better. In fact I know I couldn't, because I didn't. I'm not exactly pulling all Victoria's Secret Models all the time now at 35, but I do a LOT better than that. This guy is making a tragic mistake. I almost hope he descends into mediocrity for his own good if he goes through with this.

[soup]

He's a gonner.

Just let it go.

You'd have to move mountains to change this guy.

[Christian McQueen]

"He wants me to intervene and talk to the guy but I don't know how I can tell him "Don't be stupid and marry a fat chick when you're fresh out of college" without causing major offense."

^The truth hurts.

You will cause offense, but better to offend him now, so down the road when he's miserable as fuck with that porker, you can smile at him and say "Told ya so bro".

Fucking A, that chick looks like it's his mom.

[JoyStick]

Ha. Some people have to learn the hard way. Tell him to plan a honey moon close enough to drive to, because she might be to fat to fly.

[Vitriol]

Sweet Pea Wrote:

They sit around and eat fast food for every meal and there is always a cake or cupcakes made when I visit.

Someone I know was engaged to a girl who lived on fast food and takeout. Needless to say, after they were together for 6 months or so, they both ballooned up and started to look middle-aged in their 20s. Thankfully for him, they broke up while they were still only engaged.

If he marries this girl his life is over.

This is the end.

[Christian McQueen]

Additionally...

I'm starting to wonder if normal looking guys I see with porkers are either:

A. In the closet gay

Or

B. Their confidence is really that low.

I cannot imagine for the life of me getting excited to have sex with that monstrosity of a so called female.

Are guys really this pussy whipped in 2014? Or are they secretly gay?

Shit isn't right.

[Patriarch]

A moment of silence for our lost brothers. If I didn't snap out of it a year and a half ago, I would be married and wasting away right now too. I'm 23 and it is frustrating that one of your best friends won't go out with us or stay out past ten because his neurotic and paranoid wife will call every couple hours.

[DetlefMourning]

(12-28-2013 12:36 AM)McQueensPlayboyRules Wrote:  

I cannot imagine for the life of me getting excited to have sex with that monstrosity of a so called female.

Are guys really this pussy whipped in 2014? Or are they secretly gay?

Shit isn't right.

I had a pretty sexless existence in my twenties because I was only willing to dumpster dive so far. No doubt average guys in their twenties that don't have any Game are at the bottom of the dating market, but men and women have such different life trajectories. Being a sexless omega in your twenties is no reason to give up hope.

[Christian McQueen]

@OP:

^Exactly my point. You had enough confidence to NOT fuck fatties and just did without.

I can respect a virgin who refuses to fuck fatties over a Fattie Fucker.

Have I ever fucked a Fattie? Of course.

But a LTR or Marriage with one?

Nah

[MHaes]

(12-28-2013 12:09 AM)DetlefMourning Wrote:  

[Rompetoto]

Seduce her and video tape the butt hexing. This is the only way to save him.

[Tytalus]

(12-28-2013 01:01 AM)Luccheese Wrote:  

Seduce her and video tape the butt hexing. This is the only way to save him.

May backfire and make him want the woman more. Guys who have low self esteem and worth can develop the worst sort of oneitus.

That siad, I think talking about marriage, the realities of it is really wise. Ask him things like:

1.) How good is the sex now? After kids it's downhill (for a guy like him)

2.) Is he genuinely physically (not emotionally) attracted to her?

3.) Does he feel he could do better?

4.) How much does she care about her clothes?

Does she care if you are hungry?

Does she have a loving family and close friends?

Does she have an inner life?

Does she like children?

Does she want a big wedding?

Does she wear sensible shoes?


See http://judgybitch.com/2012/11/16/how-to-...ingle-men/ for details on how you can talk him out of her, or at least introduce some serious doubt.

Another option is take him out, get him shitfaced, pay some hookers to sleep with him, take pictures... Then send them to her and say "I think there's someting you need to know..."

That is pretty low and you might get the guy some STD

[kinjutsu]

Back in 2009 i had a close guy friend dating a really fat girl.
She was 18 he was i think 28.
She was around 225 pounds
Had 1 glass eye and one real eye.
Horrible bitchy attitude that made her always at odds with her family.
His family was very church going and was always open to having different people come over. I was always welcome to visit...she was told in no uncertain terms to never come back.

During the summer his father, his close friend and myself had an intervention with him about her.
We must've tried every trick in the book for nearly 3 hours...defended her like she'd taken bullets for him in world war 2.
I told him that he should stop fucking her because he already has 2 kids and doesn't need another one.
He tells me he's using condoms every time etc...

About a month later he finally pulls the plug on the relationship and her reaction was to try and kill herself...
He calls 911 and they put her on a 48 mental disturbance hold. They run tests and find out she's like 3-4 weeks pregnant.

I rubbed that shit in his face to this day...

[Basil Ransom]

Not your battle. He'll change his mind if and when he's ready, and not before.

His brother's a pussy for handing this off to you.

Unless the dude himself comes to you for advice, no one is responsible but him.

[Apollo]

If there is one thing that I've learned in this short life, it is that truth is the greatest of all virtues. Our never ending search for reason and understanding in this world allows us to stay a step ahead of all the bullshit forces out there that try to bring us down and pulverize us into nothingness.

When you offer your truth to people, you're offering them the best of you. You're showing what real friendship is, and not that temporary feel good shit that obfuscates reason at their expense.

A friend, if he is driven by righteousness, is going to tell this guy that he's making a huge fucking mistake and needs to consider all the angles. A phony is going to be sitting at his wedding with a big shit eating grin knowing that his best bro's greatest days are behind him.

[Suits]

We need a crack team of emergency responders for situations like these.

The RVF Marriage-Hazmat team will roll in and use a variety of teaching methods to illustrate the future, including, but not limited to naked pictures of fat women as they age and videos of real interviews with I-married-a-fatty self-victims and survivors.

[Saladin]

This is fucking sad.

This is going to require tact. If he gets defensive he'll dig in further.

You're gonna have to make him think its his idea to dump her. Maybe do an impromptu trip to the DR or something, get him drunk as fuck and have him fuck a hotter girl.

[Travesty]

Hopefully she makes good pancakes.

[Beyond Borders]

If you bring up to the guy the fact that his old lady is a fat ass so he shouldn't marry her, I have zero doubt you (or his brother) will be the one looking like an asshole. And as much as I detest fat women, you would be an asshole for doing that.

If she has a poisonous personality, has his balls in her purse and likes to clench them in her fist from time to time just to watch him squeal, or is mentally unstable, that's when I think intervention may be heeded.

Otherwise it's every man for himself and if he wants to spend his life with a hog that's his perogative. Worry about your own sex life.

[portu]

show him a picture side by side with his favourite actress and his fat woman, comparison in real sizes,
and take all your friends to shame the fat woman...

[AnonymousBosch]

To be honest, she looks like an average non-inner city Australian woman in her twenties.

In my town, all girls pretty much look like that unless they're:

a) under 20;
b) Asian;
c) Somalian.

[Capitán Peligroso]

^^^ Yuck.

[runsonmagic]

Speak your truth. You might get called an asshole, but if you do it enough, people will accept you for it.


If it was my friend I'd be throwing pussy at him. I'd call every girl I knew and say "I need you to do something for me." Even girls I didn't know that well.

This guy doesn't have the hope that he can do better. Give him hope.


Most men prefer something to nothing - i.e. they'll fuck whats available. Men will even go prison gay, just to fuck someone.

Once his options increase, so will his standards.

Problem is, game takes time to learn. You need a quick fix. That's why I'd say get another woman to set her sights on him. Even just having two meh looking women fighting over him might be enough to make him wonder.