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Camera Man in Brasil?
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Camera Man in Brasil?

Let me start by saying I've been a long time lurker on this site. I never had anything to contribute before, but now I am in need of some advice.

[WARNING: This is a long post with a lot of, what I feel to be relevant, background information. If you would like to skip, go to the paragraph with the [Image: banana.gif], but I would greatly appreciate it if you read the entire post. Thanks.]

Since I was about 15/16 (borderline 21 now) I have been dying to go to Brazil. Actually it has been the entire world, with Brazil being my #1. Something about the culture of Brazil, and the beautiful women, appealed to me. My interest in traveling is what led me to this site 4 or so years ago. After I turned 18 I was going to go to Brazil. Well It makes more sense to finish high school, given the few months remaining. Hold on, I was just accepted to college, so I'll study abroad during. Wait a minute, I can't study abroad and graduate on time given my major, so I'll go after I graduate? I am sure you've noticed, but it took me a while to realize there's always an excuse for me to keep postponing. I need to get the ball rolling on this adventure.

This epiphany struck after a vacation I went on recently.

During my spring 2013 semester, I decided to change majors and transfer to a university more reputable for my new academic pursuit. I was accepted for the spring of 2014 semester, the earliest semester for which I could apply. I took an academic sabbatical in fall 2013, to avoid having too many credits. It has been an exceptionally boring couple of months. My mother decided to book a seven day cruise in early December because it has been a while since my family has been on a vacation together. My feelings towards the trip where that of indifference, but whatever it gave me something to do.

On the second day of the trip, which was entirely at sea, I hopped in the hot tub. I noticed that the two people across from me, girl and boy, where Brazilian. I could tell just by looking at them. I was hesitant to engage them, for fear they weren't from Brazil, but I did and they were. They were both younger than me, but the girl was much closer to my age.

I ended up hanging out with them a couple of times throughout the remainder of our trip. The girl was by far the coolest of all the women I have ever met . She was interested in so many awesome things, but was still girly. (Basically she was cool without being gross? If that makes sense.) For the first time ever I WANTED to hang out with a member of the opposite sex for the mere purpose of hanging out. She wasn't checking here phone every ten seconds, she didn't talk about stupid shit that I would pretend to be interested in, and she didn't act like a mentally/physically handicapped imbecile when it came to physical activities (i.e. arcade games, ping pong, activities you would find on a cruise). Words can't describe how much I liked her. She asked me to watch the thursday night Denver-San Diego game with her so I could explain the rules of football. Not only did she show up looking hot, she understood and retained the rules of the game.

I found out later that there where around sixty-five Brazilians on the cruise, of which I probably ran into half. I also made friends from other countries, but made the best connections with the Brasileiros. I thought it was odd that I was making good friends with these foreigners, and not anyone from the U.S. I later noticed I was chatting everyone up, but the people from the U.S. where busy with maintaing there distance, or hitting up the endless barrage of food at the buffet.

I realized I have to get out of this country. I need to experience the rest of the world. Not that I hate everyone here, I just don't feel like I fit in. Hanging out with the foreign females made me realize how much U.S. women suck ass. I use to think you guys on here where overstating how much they suck just to make point. I was blind, but now I see. The thought of trying to swing a local girl now leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

I think since this was my first trip outside of the country as an adult, I realized how unappealing American culture is. Especially since I was on a trip where I could compare Americans and foreigners. Don't get me wrong the U.S. is great, but maybe not the best option for me. I felt that I had made a better connection speaking broken portuguese/english with the Brazilians, than I had with 99% of my fellow citizens I knew for quite some time.

[Image: banana.gif] Now, finally, this is where your advice comes into play. The once exciting thought of going to a new univ. is just a repulsive and distant speck shadowed by my revived desire to go to Brazil. I want to find someone who is talented with a camera and make a sort of documentary or something about my travels in Brazil (I know it sounds kind of gay, but I think it would be cool). Is this feasible? How much money would I need? I would like to start off somewhere in RG do Sul, make my way up to Fortaleza. I would like to start before March 2014. Is it likely for me to find anyone to join me? I feel like a lot of these answers would depend on how my camera companion and I decide to make our video, but generalized advice is welcome. I am dead set on doing this, despite my parents pushing me to finish school, which I plan on completing. I just want to start living my life, instead of constantly preparing to live my life. What do you think about my plans; go for it, or crazy?

P.S. Sorry about the length.
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first question.... what makes your trip interesting and why would anyone want to watch?

hiring a professional cameraman isn't cheap.... standard rates for professional documentary cameraman start at $500 a day..... maybe you can find someone cheaper but normally you get what you pay for.

if you have the kind of money to spend or know someone that will follow you for cheap then all the better for you but just cause you are traveling to a foreign place doesn't mean it will be interesting and people will give a shit to watch it
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Quote: (12-16-2013 07:32 PM)CamelToe Wrote:  

first question.... what makes your trip interesting and why would anyone want to watch?

hiring a professional cameraman isn't cheap.... standard rates for professional documentary cameraman start at $500 a day..... maybe you can find someone cheaper but normally you get what you pay for.

if you have the kind of money to spend or know someone that will follow you for cheap then all the better for you but just cause you are traveling to a foreign place doesn't mean it will be interesting and people will give a shit to watch it

Sorry I should have been more clear about that. The filming part of the trip was merely for the fun and experience, and not a means of making money. It's not necessary, but I like the idea of it. I don't plan on paying a cameraman, I was just wondering if I could find anyone who has a similar idea. I plan on filming regardless.
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Quote: (12-16-2013 07:32 PM)CamelToe Wrote:  

hiring a professional cameraman isn't cheap.... standard rates for professional documentary cameraman start at $500 a day..... maybe you can find someone cheaper but normally you get what you pay for.

I have to agree with CamelToe on this one. I'm a professional photographer/videographer and the sheer cost of hiring someone to tag along with you during this extended journey would likely be more than most can afford.

Here's a thought...why don't you just record everything yourself? At the very least, just ask friends you meet along the way to help.

First of all, photography is one of the best ice-breakers when it comes to meeting people whether here in the U.S. or while traveling abroad. You have an instant opener for girls and guys when you ask them to take your picture or record you on video.

Secondly, you'll probably want to truly experience all that Brazil has to offer...for example hang-gliding in Rio, boat ride down the Amazon, surfing in Florianopolis, scuba diving off the coast of Fernando do Noronha. Well, few professional photographers/videographers will join you in these activities unless they are already into extreme sports (and even then YOU'LL have to pay for all of their activity fees and life/equipment insurance).

My advice...forget about hiring a professional photographer or videographer.

Just do it yourself.

YouTube is loaded with incredible videos of solo travelers who managed to capture the intensity, emotion, and thrill of their journeys in the most incredible places on, above, and below Earth. You clearly already have the desire, so you really just need a few pieces of equipment.

Here's one of my favorite travel videos which was shot entirely with a $400 GoPro Hero3 HD camcorder and a $20 Xshot Pro Camera Extender:
http://vimeo.com/65756405#

And if that's no enough, here's the official promo video for the GoPro Hero3 HD camcorder:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wbvpOIIBQA

Even though the second one is a professional video produced by GoPro, many (if not most) of these shots are possible without needing a 2nd person to record you (many of the shots in the promo video are also solo travelers using an extender). Just invest another $100 into the necessary helmet, surfboard, scuba, and bicycle attachments for your GoPro Hero camera, and you'll be good to go.

I'll also be in Brazil from February until the end of 2014, and I plan to do exactly what I'm sharing with you. This will be my first time in Brazil, so I'm excited to experience, explore, learn...and capture the whole damn thing.
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Welcome to the forum QED!
Great first post! Reading it, I could totally relate to it, specially the deep desire if not out right obsession with Brasil and to go there. If you think you loved interacting with the Brasileiros on that boat, then wait till you actually get there. Brasil is fabulous country, the closest to the total package as it gets anywhere. One advice I can give you or anyone planning to go there and to get the most out of it is to learn as much Brazilian Portuguese as you can. This will make your trip infinitely more rewarding as Brasilians are the friendliest and warmest people anywhere.

Regarding your idea of getting a camera man to shoot videos of your adventures, again I love this idea as I have been toying with this idea as well for a while now. I'm sure if you reach out to the right circle, you could find someone who is as passionate about both traveling and Brasil as you and they would simply join you for free. You could always find someone to pay to do it, but it would be infinitely more fun to do it with someone who shares the same passion about it as you do. When are you planning on doing this?

Boa sorts rapaiz!!
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QED, here's another video on how to do proper travel documentary with some gaming thrown in for good measure [Image: smile.gif] It has been covered in the forums before but these guy's are dope. The cameraman is a friend of the host so i'm sure it wasn't too expensive for them to shoot this.




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Quote: (12-16-2013 08:31 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

You could always find someone to pay to do it, but it would be infinitely more fun to do it with someone who shares the same passion about it as you do. When are you planning on doing this?

Boa sorts rapaiz!!

Nice to meet Vacancier. Thanks for the welcoming response. Just to restate, I never planned on hiring someone to film, I just thought it would be cool. My first thought was to get a go pro cam and film it myself (like grasshopper suggested), but I was thinking I could find someone that was interested in both traveling and developing there filming skills. It would not only produce better quality film, but allow for me to have travel companion. It is mainly for the fun of it. I think I threw everyone off when I said I was looking for a talented camera man. I am mainly looking for a travel partner.

My goal is to do this asap, the latest being March. I am interested in finding out if my goals are reasonable. That is, the money, the timing, the length of time traveling, finding a travel partner willing to venture from south to north. I just thought of this idea (south to north) yesterday, and am still in the early stages of planing out the course of travel. This is the first time I am doing anything like this, so sorry if I sound clueless. I appreciate all the responses. Seriously, I like all the advice I can get.
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Quote: (12-16-2013 08:53 PM)QED Wrote:  

Quote: (12-16-2013 08:31 PM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  

You could always find someone to pay to do it, but it would be infinitely more fun to do it with someone who shares the same passion about it as you do. When are you planning on doing this?

Boa sorts rapaiz!!

Nice to meet Vacancier. Thanks for the welcoming response. Just to restate, I never planned on hiring someone to film, I just thought it would be cool. My first thought was to get a go pro cam and film it myself (like grasshopper suggested), but I was thinking I could find someone that was interested in both traveling and developing there filming skills. It would not only produce better quality film, but allow for me to have travel companion. It is mainly for the fun of it. I think I threw everyone off when I said I was looking for a talented camera man. I am mainly looking for a travel partner.

My goal is to do this asap, the latest being March. I am interested in finding out if my goals are reasonable. That is, the money, the timing, the length of time traveling, finding a travel partner willing to venture from south to north. I just thought of this idea (south to north) yesterday, and am still in the early stages of planing out the course of travel. This is the first time I am doing anything like this, so sorry if I sound clueless. I appreciate all the responses. Seriously, I like all the advice I can get.

QED, you have a solid concept and your passion is clear. Perhaps the toughest part would be to find a single person who shares your entire itinerary (i.e. cities, dates, accommodations, etc.)

It looks like you're in the process of planning when you'll be in specific cities and regions of Brazil, so perhaps you can find a series of people (whether on RVF or using other methods) to connect with as you arrive in each place.

This way, you'll have the 2nd person to film you without needing them to leave when you leave in order to continue filming you in future cities.

I'd be happy to assist if we happen to be in the same place at the same time.

But after spending all that cash to get to Brazil, I would guess that like me, most people intend to travel on their own itinerary, and not on someone else's.
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Quote: (12-16-2013 09:13 PM)grasshopper Wrote:  

QED, you have a solid concept and your passion is clear. Perhaps the toughest part would be to find a single person who shares your entire itinerary (i.e. cities, dates, accommodations, etc.)

It looks like you're in the process of planning when you'll be in specific cities and regions of Brazil, so perhaps you can find a series of people (whether on RVF or using other methods) to connect with as you arrive in each place.

This way, you'll have the 2nd person to film you without needing them to leave when you leave in order to continue filming you in future cities.

I'd be happy to assist if we happen to be in the same place at the same time.

But after spending all that cash to get to a dream country, I would guess that like me, most people intend to travel on their own itinerary, and not on someone else's.

Ya I surprisingly didn't think of breaking it up by city or region. I guess that would be a good backup if I can't find anyone. As for meeting up, I am definitely down. You'll find I am pretty easy going, and enjoy to go with the flow. I plan on having an itinerary, but a very loose one at that. It would mainly be for the time spent per city. I really want to arrive in Brazil and see where the "wind" takes me. I guess thats why I want to film the trip; to show people the serendipitous adventures I could possibly stumble upon just by being outgoing (I am aware that there could be negative outcomes as well). That's what I loved about the movie Forrest Gump. He didn't have any plans in life, he just went out and lived. He experienced an amazing life just by going with the flow. Granted it's a movie, and my experience could backfire, but I am willing to risk it.
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QED,
PMme your Skype so we can chat on this. I'm interested to hear more about it.

Cheers.
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I'll be in Brasil during the world cup. I also have the same affinity for Brasil as you do, and I'd be interested in meeting up!
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Ya sounds good. Where will you be?
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Remember, the mind is the greatest camera of them all.
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Quote: (12-18-2013 03:41 PM)QED Wrote:  

Ya sounds good. Where will you be?

I'll be in Rio de Janeiro as my base. And try and visit a few cities nearby like Sao Paulo and the sort.
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