[Vendetta]

The hair.

The tattoos.

The manly sunglasses.

The baby as accessory.

The fucking "Look at me I have a cup of coffee" cup of coffee.

   

[Cincinnatus]

The adult pictured is a woman?

[dads]

realistically, you can't be a woman or a man with a backpack

[Shotgun Styles]

(12-11-2013 12:00 AM)Vendetta Wrote:  

The hair.

The tattoos.

The manly sunglasses.

The baby as accessory.

The fucking "Look at me I have a cup of coffee" cup of coffee.

When I see a woman with hipster glasses, or chopped hair, or nasty tattoos, or rolls of fat, who only wears pants and flat shoes I see the same thing: LOW SELF ESTEEM.

American women have been taught by their ugly/fat/pseudo-lesbian feminist masters to hate being women, so they trash themselves in order to fit in. To feel less like women and more like asexual "persons".

[Flavius Aetius]

That poor kid is going to be fucked up for life.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Shotgun Styles Wrote:

When I see a woman with hipster glasses, or chopped hair, or nasty tattoos, or rolls of fat, who only wears pants and flat shoes I see the same thing: LOW SELF ESTEEM.

Actually, I believe that they do it because they have EXCESSIVE SELF ESTEEM, AKA NARCISSISM. People (especially women) with normal or low self esteem don't engage in attention whoring and rebellion against common sense like that.

[Shotgun Styles]

(12-11-2013 02:39 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

Shotgun Styles Wrote:

When I see a woman with hipster glasses, or chopped hair, or nasty tattoos, or rolls of fat, who only wears pants and flat shoes I see the same thing: LOW SELF ESTEEM.

Actually, I believe that they do it because they have EXCESSIVE SELF ESTEEM, AKA NARCISSISM. People (especially women) with normal or low self esteem don't engage in attention whoring and rebellion against common sense like that.

I am of the opinion that the acting out you see is false confidence. The reason these women feel the need to cry out for all that attention is because underneath it all they think they're ugly, stupid, and unlovable. Watch five minutes of any teenage girl programming and it become readily apparent what drives girls. And most adult women in America NEVER GROW UP. They're emotional maturity stays stuck in the 10th grade.

Much of the fake rape cries you see comes from a desperate insecurity about their sexuality. Bitches feel trapped. If they're sexual, they're run down as sluts and whores. If they're not sexual they're bashed as prudes and stuck up bitches. The subtlety practices by their mothers and grandmothers has not been passed on to them.

There's a difference between putting on a slinky dress to flirt with guys at a club and dry humping a stranger because you saw his Ferrari keys on the table. Most young women today can't make that distinction for themselves because their mothers were too busy trying to be men to teach their daughters how to be women.

We need charm school in this country. Remember when they taught a bitch how to walk in heels by making her balance a book on her head? No such thing exists today outside of the runway model industry.

These women hate themselves because no one taught them how to be what they are. They're told from birth to hate and fear grown men and penises (the creep/predator mythology), then are thrown into a school system that tells them the only way to succeed in life is to try to be men. Girls hit puberty and all guys want are the super feminine (and whorish) images produce by the porn valley. All this adds up to massive confusion and insecurity. So they act out to get attention, then play the victim whenever it backfires on them.

Long story short: their perceived narcissism is really just an act they put on in hopes of covering up the one simple fact of their lives: American women don't know who they are.

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

*shrug* It's a good explanation, but I think it's functionally the same. If displayed narcissism is just a cover for low self-esteem, then normal confidence practically doesn't exist.

[Shotgun Styles]

(12-11-2013 03:49 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  

*shrug* It's a good explanation, but I think it's functionally the same. If displayed narcissism is just a cover for low self-esteem, then normal confidence practically doesn't exist.

Where the rubber meets the road, you're right it makes no difference. But I think understanding what's at the root helps one's game in the long run.

And sadly, yes, normal female confidence is sorely lacking in this country.

[2Wycked]

Functionally, narcissists -- the clinical variety -- are those who reject reality and instead believe they are still in the womb, where they perceived they were omnipotent. That is why they often refer to life as a "movie" or such. Their denial of reality makes them believe life isn't real and they really are waiting for the other shoe to drop, a.k.a. they really get born. The one greatest fear of a narcissist isn't themselves, but death as death represents their entire life was real -- the myths in their head are not true -- and so, on their deathbed, they have to confront the reality of an entire life not lived. I have seen it firsthand -- it is the most terrifying/saddest thing you will ever see.

Shotgun Styles final point about women not having an identity, that is true but isn't necessarily indicative of narcissism. All narcissists have a lack of true self-identity and the modern woman does live in a narcissistic society, but the lack of identity stems from not being allowed to progress as a child into adulthood, i.e. try on identities and eventually decide what sticks for her. Plenty of people who are not narcissists fit this profile.

Modern media/schools/terrible parenting thwarts this, generally, but what narcissism expresses itself as is presentations of confidence instead of substantive confidence. People get confidence and self-esteem from following internal values and behaving in accordance with those in their everyday life. Of course, with personality disorders, a confident person would also have to work through and come to terms with their highly deficient childhood.

Contrary to some on the board, parenting always has and always will the primary determinant of a child's psychological growth. The devaluation of the family -- replaced by "experts" in the media/government/medical-industrial complex -- has caused a wave of insecure parents who seek first to learn from "experts" when thousands of years of human evolution has equipped every set of parents -- holding for parent's own psychological issues -- with the tools necessarily to groom a child into psychologically healthy adulthood.

Narcissism may be many things, but clinical levels of narcissists are always around 1-2% of any given human population. Wider American society does ape narcissistic qualities, but a clinical narcissist is *always* born in infancy as a reaction to the terrifying reality of their abject mistreatment at the hands of parents -- whom they come to regard purely as authority figures.

TL;DR: A narcissist is one who had no one to love, so he fell in love with himself.

[w00t]

(12-11-2013 12:08 AM)Flavius Aetius Wrote:  

That poor kid is going to be fucked up for life.

Ill never forget Pink saying in an interview that she liked to drink in her pregnancy becaduse "everyone does it".

[baristabanger]

Tattoos do it in for me. They're all the same feathers, dream catchers, script bullshit. It's like taking a national park and throwing a walmart in the middle.

[Teedub]

I knew a guy who worked in the hospitality industry here, he looks after big name artists when they're in this country on tour. He said out of everyone he's worked with, Pink ("Alecia" as he called her) was the most down to earth and friendly of all of them.

I'm not saying she isn't all of the above, but at least she was pleasant enough. That goes a long way in my book.

[Suits]

(12-11-2013 12:00 AM)Vendetta Wrote:  

The fucking "Look at me I have a cup of coffee" cup of coffee.

Brilliant!

[Teedub]

(12-11-2013 08:10 AM)Suits Wrote:  

(12-11-2013 12:00 AM)Vendetta Wrote:  

The fucking "Look at me I have a cup of coffee" cup of coffee.

Brilliant!

Is it just me, or has coffee become some kind of status symbol? I don't drink it so I'm out of the loop so to speak. Has it been marketed differently in the past 5 years or something?

You'd never see late teens-early twentysomethings walking around with coffee like they do now, say 10 years ago. And it's not like there weren't any Starbucks around then.

[Haig]

Hey Teedub, for the Coffee thing, I would blame "Friends" for that, all they ever seemed to do was whine about how men were shit and how the world was not fair (with their Gucci handbag right next to them) while they were sucking on their Frappe. It wouldn't be surprised in the near future we found out that TV show was sponsored by Starbucks.

Some "fashionable" coffee drinkers want to give the impression that they are always on the go and so by drinking it, they signify being productive/hard working.

To me its just another fucking drink.

[Dr. Howard]

(12-11-2013 12:04 AM)dads Wrote:  

realistically, you can't be a woman or a man with a backpack

By that assumption every soldier, prospector, forester, mountaineer and air ambulance EMT must be a pussy right?



Just look at that backpack. so gay.

[Justice Beaver]

(12-11-2013 08:13 AM)Teedub Wrote:  

(12-11-2013 08:10 AM)Suits Wrote:  

(12-11-2013 12:00 AM)Vendetta Wrote:  

The fucking "Look at me I have a cup of coffee" cup of coffee.

Brilliant!

Is it just me, or has coffee become some kind of status symbol? I don't drink it so I'm out of the loop so to speak. Has it been marketed differently in the past 5 years or something?

You'd never see late teens-early twentysomethings walking around with coffee like they do now, say 10 years ago. And it's not like there weren't any Starbucks around then.

I think they do it because they are in that group of annoying people that think its cool to take a picture of their coffee and upload it on twitter or instagram.

[Shotgun Styles]

(12-11-2013 09:04 AM)wiscanada Wrote:  

(12-11-2013 12:04 AM)dads Wrote:  

realistically, you can't be a woman or a man with a backpack

By that assumption every soldier, prospector, forester, mountaineer and air ambulance EMT must be a pussy right?



Just look at that backpack. so gay.

Thank you for reminding me why my knees still hurt in the morning...

[Kingsley Davis]

(12-11-2013 08:34 AM)Haig Wrote:  

Hey Teedub, for the Coffee thing, I would blame "Friends" for that, all they ever seemed to do was whine about how men were shit and how the world was not fair (with their Gucci handbag right next to them) while they were sucking on their Frappe. It wouldn't be surprised in the near future we found out that TV show was sponsored by Starbucks.

Some "fashionable" coffee drinkers want to give the impression that they are always on the go and so by drinking it, they signify being productive/hard working.

To me its just another fucking drink.

More like coffee milkshakes.

[Vendetta]

(12-11-2013 08:34 AM)Haig Wrote:  

Some "fashionable" coffee drinkers want to give the impression that they are always on the go and so by drinking it, they signify being productive/hard working.

Yeah it's for this reason.

[Vendetta]

I'm sure Pink is an OK person to hang out with.

And when I was at college I had a good friend (girl) who had a shaved head, and she looked damn hot.

And I know many girls with tattoos (less likely to know one who without these days)

BUT.... That doesn't change the feeling of loss I have inside for the feminine woman. Beautiful, well dressed, intelligent, well spoken, polite, lacking in ego but yet still self-confident and cool.

I think the 60s and 70s was probably the last time these women existed in the West en masse.

[Teedub]

(12-11-2013 08:34 AM)Haig Wrote:  

Some "fashionable" coffee drinkers want to give the impression that they are always on the go and so by drinking it, they signify being productive/hard working.

Ironically, their job isn't ever anything proper. 'Communications Assistant' or some other female-inspired thing.