[Rotisserie]

(12-05-2013 05:31 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

I have way less sympathy for these guys than many forum members. I couldn't care less about helping guys like this out.

I'm a believer in circumstances shaping your outlook, personality, health, etc. I sympathize with this guy because he's been fed lies all his life that this version of being 'romantic' is what women want, and a woman would only be so lucky to have him.

However, as Tuthmosis pointed out in his article about helping guys with no game, guys won't listen to fellow guys' advice because they need to get burned first-hand, as badly as possible, so it forces them to think about what they're doing wrong. Blue pill mentality is hard to get rid of (for most guys, maybe not you RioNomad) because it's rooted in delusional optimism.

Anyway, this story would make an awesome ROK article… props to the OP.

[Kingsley Davis]

The Chateau touched on this and ofcourse the haters...well.

"Caramba
Oh man do we need to read the stories about some crazy omega searching a woman all around the world?I actually have met guys like that.I know a guy from an eastern european country (6 feet tall,athletic,30 years old,good job)who left his job and went to some sort of a pilgrimage “to prove his love”.He walked (several days,sleeping rough or camping) to a town where that girl lived eventually and proclaimed his love to her yet again,and yet again she had to kick him out

Just one point: Tuthmosis or any nerd from ROK including their pathetic chieftain is chased by 8s only in his dreams.
Its pretty much the same as the stories that roosh ” is a pua”and “bangs 9s”and than we see pictures of some ukrainian 6 and giant puppy eyes of a scared, unattractive middle eastern beta man in scruffy cheap clothing.

They are a laughing stock of all the seduction community.

CH,you have a talent and understanding of the game,you are above that forum."

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/12/0...ent-501957

[soup]

(12-05-2013 03:40 AM)2Wycked Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 02:46 AM)soup Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 11:53 PM)Ryre Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 06:17 PM)soup Wrote:  

This guy is a complete narcicisst. He probably believes that he was destined for some great magical thing, and the whole world will be his witness etc.

OR

Maybe the whole shit is made up and he is a genius mastermind who is getting hit up by many many girls who have read his story and jumped on the wagon. Fame game dressed up as beta game.

Meh, the narcissism thing gets overplayed. Nothing here but run-of-the-mill no game/no options behavior, IMO.

Not overplayed. This guy has taken to the internet to tell the whole world his pathetic story.

Bingo.

What does this guy know about this woman? Next to nothing. Almost a year later, dude is prostrating himself before the Internet, begging to meet this woman.

Think about this story. Every story has an beginning and an ending. Use his words. He met this girl randomly on NYE and apparently drank with her over course of the night. She leaves him no contact information and he treats this night as "life-altering?"

Nope, not buying it. To him, she is a fetishized object. I have no idea what the fetish is - saving a hurt woman? - but whatever it is, his mind has fixated on her. It hasn't been a year of change, but one that has spent way too much time obsessing over this night. He still has a picture of this woman?

Sure, it's thirst. But its thirst aimed at erecting false goals about getting external approval -- this girl's "love" or public approval for his obsession with her. Aw, Christmastime is SO romantic. Get me a fucking drink.

Women should find this man creepy because bullshit like this comes from repressed stalkers a.k.a. men with narcissistic tendencies who don't have the ability to discern their wants from others. As already has been said, any man with any real experience with women - women in real life, not porno images or creations in their head - knows that women will make an effort to get/give information so you can hang out in the future. Really, that applies to most anybody. I can't imagine drinking with anybody all night, greatly enjoying it and not at least exchanging Facebook info.

The "find me" was a friendly way of admitting she enjoyed your company but not the point where she wants further contact. A healthy dude recognizes that and moves on. A month later, she is nothing but a fond memory of a good time on NYE. 11 months later, dude is still on her jock. You can says it is thirst and that is true, but what it really is pure objectification of her. In his mind, she represents an aspirational goal, one that will never end well. He has already set up a defense against his failure, citing the "incredible odds." Nice, bro. You already have a great defense is she doesn't respond, fails after one date or the marriage fails. You can always blame the sheer improbability of "fate" for your lack of true perspective.

Sometimes people get on my case about constantly mentioning narcissism and they would be right. It is my current preoccupation and hopefully within a couple years I will have overcome my issues. Still, it is incredibly important to see how this issues play out in real life. This guy has already rigged the story no matter what happens. I said initially that the story is of preeminent importance, but the ending is 99% of the situation.

People who don't have real, concrete goals (an ending) have a very tough time in life. They expend energy on nothingness, mental masturbation and procrastination. People have finite emotional energies and it will get expended. You can't ignore emotions. This guy has spent the past year spending his finite emotional resources on a girl he met for one night who didn't bother to disclose her full name to him. Think about that. He has basically been mentally masturbating over this woman for a year. He could have hit the gym and gone from chubby to lean/cut in one year. He could have established a solid foundation in game, a foreign language or even just read serious non-fiction works to better his mind.

What did he do? He obsessed over one woman he barely knew. You think he actually did shit this past year? Everything was about pursuing this woman's approval, so he didn't do any real, substantive change. He didn't even engage in superficial changes like putting on muscle to impress her or accumulating a mad roll to trick it out with her. He has nothing to show for this past year and you know how I know that? If he did any substantive it would be in the fucking article.

He wants this objects approval. If he did anything he thought would help garner her approval it would have been one of the first things out his damn mouth. It is a throw-away statement at the end. Look at the story, analyze the words. Change is completely secondary to his movie reel of a sensitive, loving man chasing an unattainable woman. Get me another fucking gin & tonic.

You think the media lied here? They reported his words. If he had done something epic - made a massive billboard that proclaimed his love for her, that shit drives media revenue. I mean Christ, if you are going to do thirst, do it right and do something remotely epic and the media will be on that shit. All this dude did was whine about how a woman who refused to give him her contact info is his obsession/love. No fucking wonder she didn't dipshit, women can smell thirst a mile away. You creeped her the fuck out. You took advantage of an emotionally vulnerable woman and thought this was your chance to gain an object and score some pussy.

This guy is contemptible, but guys like this need the forum. I doubt he will change, but everybody has the capacity. He is in his mid-20's, the narcissism I critiqued is quite common at that age and a good bit of people burn it off and have healthier relationships. I do doubt he will do it, though.

Sadly, the ending for this man is not going to pleasant. The worst is a George Sodini type of mass murder of women (I mean 0.001% chance, relax). The best? A life of exhaustingly banal choices framed as true change, a divorce or two and a clutch of fucked up kids. Think Lester from "America Beauty" sans the death.

You could say I am over-reading the situation, but once you gaze into the abyss and see it for what it is, you can't ignore it.

He's not in love with her.

He's in love with his fantasy of her.

The fantasy is a creation in his brain.

Therefore, he is actually in love with himself.

Narcissist.

Only assholes love from a far.

[Veloce]

(12-05-2013 03:28 AM)LÉtranger Wrote:  

All the DC-5 and 6 are famous for the impressive number of people who have taken a ride.

Nice work. I foresee a new forum meme/gif.

Soup's right. This is narcissistic attention whoring on a massive level. The guy created a facebook page and invited Seventeen-fucking-THOUSAND people to join in his pursuit of this girl. Just over 2000 are on board, which gives me a glimmer of hope that the remaining 15000 see this for what it is: the most elaborate beta-stalking job ever seen.

[Parlay44]

(12-05-2013 12:13 PM)soup Wrote:  

He's not in love with her.

He's in love with his fantasy of her.

The fantasy is a creation in his brain.

Therefore, he is actually in love with himself.

Narcissist.

Only assholes love from a far.

That's known as unrequited love and it has inspired many famous songs and poems.
It's part of the human experience. I'll bet many of us are here because of unrequited love

[Wutang]

Okay which one of you did this?

https://www.facebook.com/katie.dc.3?hc_location=stream

[Veloce]

Jesus, his facebook page is one giant facepalm after another...

One of his posts:

Quote:

I literally can't keep up with you all
Did i mention that every single one of you rocks to the extend where my sock may or may not have come loose?
just in case you haven't been told today

He's just so easy to hate.

[Atlantic]

Even the photo shows terrible game.

Basic move is to take a photo of the two of ye together: Grab some random girl waling past and tell her to start snapping pics of the two of ye. Get an arm around her, tickle her a bit, get some laughs going. After all its New Years eve. Then get her to take a photo of you with the random girl so she doesn't feel left out. Quick game show and tell.

His photo says it all.

[cardguy]

Betas obsess over girls like this - because they figure they might have a chance. It is strange but a beta will obsess over an average girl over a stunning one. Everytime.

Worse of all - they then spin the male hamster about how the chick is beautiful in some unique way - not like the bland, boring beautiful people on TV. And they will go overboard about their unique personality.

The male hamster of a beta spins just as quickly as the female one.

I know. I used to be one. Now - I'm an omega MGTOW guy who doesn't give a fuck. But at least I have a little more insight into the way shit really is now.

[peterthephoenix]

Being from New Zealand I can tell you that "Katie" is just as fuck ugly as the girls back home.

Kid has zero game. Brings disgrace to my people. Not happy.

[vinman]

(12-05-2013 02:30 PM)peterthephoenix Wrote:  

Being from New Zealand I can tell you that "Katie" is just as fuck ugly as the girls back home.

Kid has zero game. Brings disgrace to my people. Not happy.

Too bad you can't challenge him to a duel to restore your nations honor. I'm being serious.

[Only One Man]

This guy is absolutely trolling. No doubt in my mind. There are multiple accusations of him fucking people over, breaking girls' hearts, being an asshole, ect. No way a dude who does that shit would actually go about a mission like this and no way in fuck would he genuinely write in such a faggoty manner. Also, no way he leaves those damning comments on there if he were serious. I don't know if this "Katie" is in on it or not, but either way this troll job looks to be successful. Just look at all the moronic and angry comments this has inspired.

https://www.facebook.com/events/20273218...mall_reply

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

(12-05-2013 03:39 PM)Only One Man Wrote:  

This guy is absolutely trolling. No doubt in my mind. There are multiple accusations of him fucking people over, breaking girls' hearts, being an asshole, ect. No way a dude who does that shit would actually go about a mission like this and no way in fuck would he genuinely write in such a faggoty manner. Also, no way he leaves those damning comments on there if he were serious. I don't know if this "Katie" is in on it or not, but either way this troll job looks to be successful. Just look at all the moronic and angry comments this has inspired.

https://www.facebook.com/events/20273218...mall_reply

Seems way too many orchestrated testimonies to his Betaness (rather than the opposite, manipulative, dark personality that you seem to be finding there) for it to be a troll job. For example:

https://www.facebook.com/events/20273218...omments=77

The girl that posted this is hideously fat. What are the odds that she'd write a fake story about dating him either?

[Days of Broken Arrows]

(12-05-2013 03:39 PM)Only One Man Wrote:  

This guy is absolutely trolling. No doubt in my mind. There are multiple accusations of him fucking people over, breaking girls' hearts, being an asshole, ect. No way a dude who does that shit would actually go about a mission like this and no way in fuck would he genuinely write in such a faggoty manner. Also, no way he leaves those damning comments on there if he were serious. I don't know if this "Katie" is in on it or not, but either way this troll job looks to be successful. Just look at all the moronic and angry comments this has inspired.

https://www.facebook.com/events/20273218...mall_reply

^

Great find. The women saying he dated them but never mentioned all this make me think that it's a publicity stunt. He probably took a personal situation and made an event out of it to get a book deal. The concept reminds me of John Green's "Paper Towns" and a few other books I can't quite remember.

If this is real, it's a Beta move. But if he's generating publicity to game the (annoying feminist) book world, props to him.

Women are naturals at this sort of thing and have been doing this for years and cashing in. That "cunt punt" sorority chick got a book deal for her email that went viral, for example. So I hope he gets a book out of it, if that's what he's after.

[RouteBackwards]

(12-04-2013 06:29 PM)Kingsley Davis Wrote:  

Guaranteed this poor kid has a DVD of 500 Days of Summer and is channeling that shite. The resemblance can't be a coincidence.

Straight up, I enjoyed that movie. Had a lot of cringe-worthy beta moments, but I think that was what I liked about it, *spoilers ahead and shit* because after his heart was destroyed, and after he changes his life because of it, he becomes his own man and it appears he takes life on his own terms.

[Timoteo]

I believe this is an elaborate shit test. She wanted to see if this bitch-made punk would actually try to find her with only her first name and city, and her picture. If she was actually feeling him and wanted to see him again, how difficult would it have been to give him her email, her cell number, or.... HER FACEBOOK. He's given this mediocre trick the greatest ego boost in the history of ego boosts. The local news will now probably try to turn this into some kind of human interest story, and give her even MORE attention.

[Travesty]

(12-04-2013 08:15 PM)MrXY Wrote:  

If thats his dream princess NZ girls must be awful

Can anyone comment on the looks of NZ girls?

Little to no memory of them which is a terrible sign, I was on the South Island for 2 weeks. Not good. Nothing special. Mostly pale frumpy white girls, no style, being laid back is their best attribute, but I remember tourist girls from other Anglo countries being more appealing.

[Timoteo]

There's definitely something pathetic about this. He's got to be kicking himself for not pushing up when he had the chance. This is like dudes that do the public proposals at ball games, trying to be super-romantic. At least with those guys, it's with a girl they've been with for a while and are already fucking, and they're reasonably sure they won't get embarrassed.

[BadWolf]

if he met her in Hong Kong, I would wager she hasn't had ANY dicks. Western women get 0 attention from men in China except for complete IDIOTS.

[Bacchus]

Reminds me of this song made infamous by Terry Crews in White Chicks:

Quote:

And I need you
And I miss you
And now I wonder....

If I could fall
into the sky
Do you think time
would pass me by?
'Cause you know I'd walk
a thousand miles
if I could
just see you
tonight

You know you have the wrong game plan when you have the same idea as a Vanessa Carlton song.

[DetlefMourning]

What I'd like to know is what this guy thinks is gonna happen if/when he finds this woman? Does he think she's going to move to NZ to be with him? Does he think she's going to encourage him to get his visa and move to DC? What practical purpose does finding her serve, a girl he didn't even bang?

I recognize the oneitis in him because I used to get oneitis over a girl really easily as a teenager and young adult. After the Red Pill it is hard to get hung up over a girl you didn't bang. Like others said, he should be kicking himself for wasting time and energy on a fantasy instead of working on improving himself and slaying some fine local girls where he lives.

[Shotgun Styles]

Damn. You guys are being WAY too harsh. I think it's romantic.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have an appointment...

[bachelor tax]

According to some of the comments they found a possible match on facebook, twitter, linkedin and instagram. The owner has since deactivated all of them. Bad sign for homeboy!

[Tuthmosis]

(12-06-2013 03:38 AM)bachelor tax Wrote:  

According to some of the comments they found a possible match on facebook, twitter, linkedin and instagram. The owner has since deactivated all of them. Bad sign for homeboy!

It's happening!

Thank you god almighty! Thank you!

It reminds me of that episode of the Simpson's where Ralph Wiggum thinks that Lisa likes him because she gave him a Valentine. Bart breaks down the tape with her to find the precise moment when she breaks his heart.

[aphelion]

Screenshots? For some reason I can't see this page.