[alchemist]

A few days ago I was heading into town on the train on a night out. A couple stops after mine a hot girl got on, just my type. She sat in the seats across the aisle from me. The carriage was busy but not jam-packed (I think 4 out of 6 seats in my section were taken, and the same in hers). Both me and her had another passenger between us and the aisle. I made eye contact etc and sensed some interest but hesitated and didn't open her. I think I shit myself because of the high number of people around in anti-social public-transport mode and since I wasn't sitting directly next to/across from her. Any advice on how to handle such a situation? Should I have just accepted that the logistics were too awkward or is there a way around this that I've overlooked?

[Bad Hussar]

I'm definitely not the greatest player, but sometimes strike up conversations wth hot women on public transport. It's really not as bad as your nerves seem to suggest at the time. Despite what is often written here most girls are not actually bitches in real life. At least not all the time. The worst that happens is that she brushes you off because she is nervous or not interested. It's not the end of the world. An accent foreign to the location you're in helps a lot in these situations. Girls will cut your more slack, at least initially. Even in places like NYC where they're obviously used to foreign guys. So this is a good reason to get out there and travel to other countries.

Not to hijack your thread, but another location for day game I've found is quite good is the main public library in any city. Really, don't laugh. Good chance of scoring numbers or arranging instant coffee dates. Coffee shops and books seem to be connected for some reason.

[MiXX]

yeah, but coffee dates suck ass!! It leads NOWHERE!!!! Opt for a local pizza shop, and poke fun at her for eating like a slob, anything, just get some emotions out of her that normally nobody else does.

As far as train approaches goes, here is what ALWAYS works for me when I am in NYC. I open with an "excuse me", and immediately say I am from Miami Beach, and my iphone app sux, for the transit system...now, say something humorous about your situation, the good thing is I ended up at <name a shitty/good neighborhood> and say y9ou enjoyed the best cup of <whatever> in this hidden hole...surprisingly...what does she recommend you do before leaving, and oh yeah, before I get lost again...how do I get back to downtown? I am suppose to meet some girlfriends for <name something cool>. You guys in NYC are not so bad after all despite what they think in Miami (she'll get curious), join me for ice skating tomorrow and watch me fall on my tropical Miami ass ;-)


The out of towner approach always works as it is ok for you not to know yo are NOT suppose to approach women on the train.. =)


MIXX'S TIP OF THE WEEK:

Get a free Google Voice number with an area code form Vegas, Miami or LA, forward that to your phone, and give that to her to make your "out-of-town" routine legit!

Mixx

[oldnemesis]

(11-18-2010 02:44 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

MIXX'S TIP OF THE WEEK:
Get a free Google Voice number with an area code form Vegas, Miami or LA, forward that to your phone, and give that to her to make your "out-of-town" routine legit!

I used it with Skype six years ago when I was in Russia and looking for a job in US. Got a skype-in number in Bay Area and received calls on my Skype in Moscow. It was not free, but not expensive either - something like $35 a year.
It is really surprising how more people would call a resume with a local phone number!

[MiXX]

(11-18-2010 09:34 PM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

(11-18-2010 02:44 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

MIXX'S TIP OF THE WEEK:
Get a free Google Voice number with an area code form Vegas, Miami or LA, forward that to your phone, and give that to her to make your "out-of-town" routine legit!

I used it with Skype six years ago when I was in Russia and looking for a job in US. Got a skype-in number in Bay Area and received calls on my Skype in Moscow. It was not free, but not expensive either - something like $35 a year.
It is really surprising how more people would call a resume with a local phone number!

Skype has changed a lot in 6 years, now their yearly subscriptions are double that for a skype-in number, and it does nothing better than Google Voice can. I was a big Skype user too....6 years ago =)

Mixx

[Lumiere]

(11-18-2010 02:44 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

yeah, but coffee dates suck ass!! It leads NOWHERE!!!! Opt for a local pizza shop, and poke fun at her for eating like a slob, anything, just get some emotions out of her that normally nobody else does.

As far as train approaches goes, here is what ALWAYS works for me when I am in NYC. I open with an "excuse me", and immediately say I am from Miami Beach, and my iphone app sux, for the transit system...now, say something humorous about your situation, the good thing is I ended up at <name a shitty/good neighborhood> and say y9ou enjoyed the best cup of <whatever> in this hidden hole...surprisingly...what does she recommend you do before leaving, and oh yeah, before I get lost again...how do I get back to downtown? I am suppose to meet some girlfriends for <name something cool>. You guys in NYC are not so bad after all despite what they think in Miami (she'll get curious), join me for ice skating tomorrow and watch me fall on my tropical Miami ass ;-)


The out of towner approach always works as it is ok for you not to know yo are NOT suppose to approach women on the train.. =)


MIXX'S TIP OF THE WEEK:

Get a free Google Voice number with an area code form Vegas, Miami or LA, forward that to your phone, and give that to her to make your "out-of-town" routine legit!

Mixx

Dude, lying to a chick about why you are stepping up to her and then getting a phone number to cover your lie?

Seriously?

Why not just tell her the truth?

I would say something like "Hey, this is kinda random but I saw you across the carriage and I had to tell you something. You look really cute today." and I would not give a fuck who else in the carriage heard it.

[InternationPlayboy]

(11-18-2010 11:18 PM)Lumiere Wrote:  

(11-18-2010 02:44 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

yeah, but coffee dates suck ass!! It leads NOWHERE!!!! Opt for a local pizza shop, and poke fun at her for eating like a slob, anything, just get some emotions out of her that normally nobody else does.

As far as train approaches goes, here is what ALWAYS works for me when I am in NYC. I open with an "excuse me", and immediately say I am from Miami Beach, and my iphone app sux, for the transit system...now, say something humorous about your situation, the good thing is I ended up at <name a shitty/good neighborhood> and say y9ou enjoyed the best cup of <whatever> in this hidden hole...surprisingly...what does she recommend you do before leaving, and oh yeah, before I get lost again...how do I get back to downtown? I am suppose to meet some girlfriends for <name something cool>. You guys in NYC are not so bad after all despite what they think in Miami (she'll get curious), join me for ice skating tomorrow and watch me fall on my tropical Miami ass ;-)


The out of towner approach always works as it is ok for you not to know yo are NOT suppose to approach women on the train.. =)


MIXX'S TIP OF THE WEEK:

Get a free Google Voice number with an area code form Vegas, Miami or LA, forward that to your phone, and give that to her to make your "out-of-town" routine legit!

Mixx

Dude, lying to a chick about why you are stepping up to her and then getting a phone number to cover your lie?

Seriously?

Why not just tell her the truth?

I would say something like "Hey, this is kinda random but I saw you across the carriage and I had to tell you something. You look really cute today." and I would not give a fuck who else in the carriage heard it.

And another problem with telling her you are from out of town is you can't keep hitting it if she's cool, smoking hot, or a good lay or all three i.e. girlfriend matterial (If you're into having girlfriends).

[Bukowsky]

One approach I've had success with is to speak English like I'm just another dumb gringo.

I get mixed reactions, but since I am most comfortable in English, the approach is much easier for me, and I'm more confident. I also have a genuine American accent, so essentially I've put myself in a box up in their heads within 30 seconds. Another American frat-boy.

I let the banter go back and forth, then, out of the blue, I will switch to local lingo when I address a passer by. EVERY time the girl gives me this look that says it all. "YOU CHEEKY BASTARD!". It's great.

[MiXX]

@Lumiere-- notice I said what works * FOR ME *, not do what I do. I am really from out of town when in NYC - left NYC more than a decade ago.

I do not advocate lying to girls, but sometimes you got to play the game, not let the game play you. Nobody is 100% honest in life, nobody.

Alchemist missed out on an opportunity because he was afraid of a public audience, I merely showed that there are ways to get around being afraid in front of a fake public audience.

A foreign GV number is a great idea, primarily because it's free and convenient to have, and oldnemesis gave us a classic example of how it can benefit, I gave a second.

Mixx

[oldnemesis]

(11-18-2010 09:46 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

Skype has changed a lot in 6 years, now their yearly subscriptions are double that for a skype-in number, and it does nothing better than Google Voice can.

IMHO there are still some advantages. The main advantage is that SkypeIn is not linked to any physical phone number, making it significantly harder (or even impossible) to trace your real identity in case shit happens. With a subpoena to Google, they have your other phone number. With a subpoena to Skype they have the IP address you login from, which traces back to VPN in Sweden, and payment information which traces back to a Visa gift card purchased for cash in Safeway.

Also, as far as I remember, you can only get GV phone numbers in USA. Not very useful to game chicks in Romania, Ukraine or Thailand.

[InternationPlayboy]

Skype is the ill shit. I talk to my friends in foreign countries all the time for $0 and its as close to in-person as you can get.