[la_mode]

American Gypsies in NatGeo was very entertaining, and they did really well with their psychic shops.

Some of the women were good-looking as well.

I remember the last episode, the cool guy, Val, spends the night with a gypsy girl and has to marry her. She was probably 9.5/10.

[Titan]

Reading this made me hate gypsies. Thanks guys.

[phoenix101]

(11-17-2013 07:03 PM)Titan Wrote:  

Reading this made me hate gypsies. Thanks guys.

lol

There are some interesting stories from the Canadian angle as well as I believe 1,000s from Hungary tried to get into Canada as refugees in the past few years and it looks like the difficult process made them turn towards Britain where they don't need to claim refugee status.

Feb 2013 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...9097.html#

This one is a comment in the article and admittedly an unverifiable anecdote:

Quote:

A local Romanian businesswoman told us that they had talked to her and told her that they had arrived to Canada a few months back and that they were able to get some government benefits that would easily pay for their rent and food needs even without getting a job. However, they told the woman that they did not like it here and would move on to Australia because the Canadian government required them to take English classes and integrate within the community.

April 2012 http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/04/22/...on-kenney/

Quote:

The Immigration and Refugee Board receives approximately 400 claims from Hungary every month, the vast majority of whom are believed to be Roma.

Quote:

“We tried to circulate brochures explaining ‘This is not the way you immigrate to Canada,’ [arriving at the airport and requesting asylum] and it’s had no impact,” he said, adding that the flood of asylum-seekers is “highly organized” and not at all spontaneous.

Quote:

“Almost none of these European asylum claimants even show up for their hearings — they just overwhelmingly abandon them and withdraw their own claims,” Mr. Kenney said. “But they all do show up in Ontario’s welfare program.”

http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/11/04/...-doorstep/

Quote:

Mr. Kenney [Immigration Minister] has long questioned the merits of claims put forth by members of the stateless ethnic group that says it still faces persecution by ultra-right-wing nationalists and neo-Nazi groups across Europe. Two years ago, he called Czech Roma claims “bogus,” and last year told the House of Commons that some Roma asylum-seekers are “coached to come to Canada, make a false asylum claim, and then register for provincial welfare benefits.”

[porscheguy]

(11-17-2013 04:53 PM)soup Wrote:  

(11-17-2013 03:28 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

If you don't hate gypsies, you simply haven't been exposed to them. I like to think of myself as open-minded, but their unwavering anti-work ethic is revolting. They have a culture of begging and stealing, and every time you see a "poor" gypsy kid, understand that his parents are forcing him to that because they see him as a means of income and nothing more. It's quite a jackpot for a gypsy father to have a beautiful daughter, because he can sell her to an older man for a nice price.

There are different types of gypsies. There are a lot who aren't poor thieving etc.

And, like I said, they produce some of the finest musicians in the world.

Some of the more Northern Gypsy tribes don't want to be associated with the "Roma" Gypsies.

Please list 5 examples of world renowned gypsy musicians.

Please list the different types of gypsies and explain what makes each group distinct. (Note: "northern tribes" and their disdain for "Roma" is not sufficient.)

I have to agree with Roosh and several others who have posted on the subject. If you don't hate them, you've never been exposed to them.

[soup]

(11-17-2013 10:34 PM)porscheguy Wrote:  

(11-17-2013 04:53 PM)soup Wrote:  

(11-17-2013 03:28 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

If you don't hate gypsies, you simply haven't been exposed to them. I like to think of myself as open-minded, but their unwavering anti-work ethic is revolting. They have a culture of begging and stealing, and every time you see a "poor" gypsy kid, understand that his parents are forcing him to that because they see him as a means of income and nothing more. It's quite a jackpot for a gypsy father to have a beautiful daughter, because he can sell her to an older man for a nice price.

There are different types of gypsies. There are a lot who aren't poor thieving etc.

And, like I said, they produce some of the finest musicians in the world.

Some of the more Northern Gypsy tribes don't want to be associated with the "Roma" Gypsies.

Please list 5 examples of world renowned gypsy musicians.

Please list the different types of gypsies and explain what makes each group distinct. (Note: "northern tribes" and their disdain for "Roma" is not sufficient.)

I have to agree with Roosh and several others who have posted on the subject. If you don't hate them, you've never been exposed to them.

Are you kidding? The best guitarists and violinists in the world are Gypsies. Google any of them and you will be blown away.

Django Reinhardt
Roby Lakatos
Bireli Lagrene
Jimmy Rosenberg
Toni Iordache
Angelo Debarre

The list could go on and on..

Tribes, aside from Roma

Sinti
Manouche
Kale
Romanichal

[The Lizard of Oz]

soup, you're just loving gypsies because you feel they're fellow sigmas.

[soup]

(11-17-2013 11:10 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  

soup, you're just loving gypsies because you feel they're fellow sigmas.

I don't want to romanticize anything. Truth is, they have a lot of problems in that culture.

But there is something to be said for not being tethered and not living by normal societies rules that resonates with me (and probably any guy who gets into the game).

The gypsies that I think are cool are able to find meaning in life out of what seems like nothing.

They don't need all the materialistic crap like a lot of Americans.

That said, a lot of them are dirt poor, but will roll up in a Mercedes.

[Jaydublin]

I'm starting to see a rise in the hate on the gypsy and Muslim immigrants in Europe. I wonder how this will look in the next decade or 2 as the numbers grow larger and the people more powerful while the economies get worse/stagnate. There was a lot of genocide in the 20th century, the 21st is sure to have its share.

[InternationPlayboy]

LOL people are still confusing Romanians and Romanis.

[MHaes]

@Soup lol they don't need materialistic crap? I assure you, yeah they are materialistic, they just don't have the means to be as materialistic as the average white collar worker. But believe me they are being as materialistic as you can be while leeching off the dole.

And there is a difference between not living by society's rules in regards to marriage, and then not living by society's rules by selling your children, trying to mentally handicap your children so that you can get more govt $$$, and general destruction of civil order.

[soup]

(11-18-2013 12:05 AM)MHaes Wrote:  

@Soup lol they don't need materialistic crap? I assure you, yeah they are materialistic, they just don't have the means to be as materialistic as the average white collar worker. But believe me they are being as materialistic as you can be while leeching off the dole.

And there is a difference between not living by society's rules in regards to marriage, and then not living by society's rules by selling your children, trying to mentally handicap your children so that you can get more govt $$$, and general destruction of civil order.

Obviously that stuff is fucked up. I'm just saying that not all Gypsies are like that.

[Cattle Rustler]

(11-17-2013 11:54 PM)soup Wrote:  

They don't need all the materialistic crap like a lot of Americans.

Quote:

That said, a lot of them are dirt poor, but will roll up in a Mercedes.

[InternationPlayboy]

^

[funkyzeit]

They are parasites everywhere they go. In my country they are (completely healthy looking) beggars who whine about how they aren't "taken care of" (by taxpayers). Of course, liberals organized and pressed the authorities to give them homes (one of those portable makeshift houses). In a matter of days all those houses were taken apart, sold and they were whining again how homeless and oppressed they are.

[InternationPlayboy]

These people really sound like the scum of the earth. Glad to have never (knowingly) met one.

[Benoit]

It's very easy to romanticise travellers, whether Roma or Irish or whatever, the freedom of their life on the road seems great.

But they live outside society and culture, can run away from the consequences of their actions, and do so regularly.

I'd say this forum is strongly for international womanising, but would have no respect for a guy who travelled the world knocking up a broad in every country then bouncing.

Go and visit a traveller camp if you want to see how great their lifestyle is. Even excluding women I'd rather live in the poorest Brazilian favela than with travellers in the UK.

[oldhorndog]

(11-18-2013 12:11 AM)soup Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 12:05 AM)MHaes Wrote:  

@Soup lol they don't need materialistic crap? I assure you, yeah they are materialistic, they just don't have the means to be as materialistic as the average white collar worker. But believe me they are being as materialistic as you can be while leeching off the dole.

And there is a difference between not living by society's rules in regards to marriage, and then not living by society's rules by selling your children, trying to mentally handicap your children so that you can get more govt $$$, and general destruction of civil order.

Obviously that stuff is fucked up. I'm just saying that not all Gypsies are like that.

I get what you're saying and maybe you ran into a few good ones. But there is a difference between 'being a materialistic worker bee' and becoming a dirty leech on society. I live here in Spain and we have good and bad ones - among all Gypsies the gitanos are most likely the most integrated in any society. However every Spaniard you meet here will tell you to stay away from them - they are bad news and they basically lie when they breathe. I have a few friends who are cops here and when I asked them which groups cause the most trouble they immediately pointed toward the Romas - they hate them and prefer to duke it out with the North Africans. By the way, unlike other nations the Spanish do understand the difference between regular Romanians and gypsies from Romania. One of my gym buddies is from Romania and he's clearly not a gypsy - pretty white looking.

There is also a difference between the gypsies from Romania and the ones who grew up here. The latter have a deep culture and as I said managed to find widespread acceptance (to some extend) in Spanish culture. The former are the scum of the earth and rigorous measures should be taken to encourage them to abandon their pilfering lifestyle. Unfortunately the pertinent laws are pretty lax over here and there will be a long term price to pay.

FWIW - I've run into some Romanian girls and they are among the hottest pieces of ass I have come across. Again, not gypsy bitches - regular Romanian women.

[funkyzeit]

(11-18-2013 06:19 AM)funkyzeit Wrote:  

They are parasites everywhere they go. In my country they are (completely healthy looking) beggars who whine about how they aren't "taken care of" (by taxpayers). Of course, liberals organized and pressed the authorities to give them homes (one of those portable makeshift houses). In a matter of days all those houses were taken apart, sold and they were whining again how homeless and oppressed they are.

Cont.

Also, there is also a problem of them drugging their babies and giving them vodka (0.1l or 3.4oz is like $1.5 here and is enough to shitface an infant), also there have been cases of found dead babies on junkyards with the autopsies revealing they died from alcohol overdose. I see someone pointed out this problem in previous replies

The elementary school in my country is almost free, you just have to pay for some books, like $20-30 annually. The national ministry of education had a proposal to pay for Roma kids' schooling, books and meals during all eight years of elementary school in order to make it a requirement for all children in country, poor or not. Their pissed off mothers came the day after the proposal went public to protest in large groups because their kids going to school means their kids not earning ~$20 per day from being beggars. The protests almost escalated into violent riots, but the police and the parliament acted on time and cancelled the proposal. The media tried to point this out but the human rights association of Bosnia threatened with charges for repressing the foreign culture and promoting hatred or something like that.

Roma gypsies also had a trend few years ago of throwing flaming paper on people for fun in order to fuck up their clothes. They tried this with an old lady in January of 2008 right after asking her for money. The grandma had a wool coat so it caught flame easily, burning her to death (use google to translate). The media of course called them "juvenile deviants" or something, not specifying their race.

[soup]

(11-18-2013 07:07 AM)oldhorndog Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 12:11 AM)soup Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 12:05 AM)MHaes Wrote:  

@Soup lol they don't need materialistic crap? I assure you, yeah they are materialistic, they just don't have the means to be as materialistic as the average white collar worker. But believe me they are being as materialistic as you can be while leeching off the dole.

And there is a difference between not living by society's rules in regards to marriage, and then not living by society's rules by selling your children, trying to mentally handicap your children so that you can get more govt $$$, and general destruction of civil order.

Obviously that stuff is fucked up. I'm just saying that not all Gypsies are like that.

I get what you're saying and maybe you ran into a few good ones. But there is a difference between 'being a materialistic worker bee' and becoming a dirty leech on society. I live here in Spain and we have good and bad ones - among all Gypsies the gitanos are most likely the most integrated in any society. However every Spaniard you meet here will tell you to stay away from them - they are bad news and they basically lie when they breathe. I have a few friends who are cops here and when I asked them which groups cause the most trouble they immediately pointed toward the Romas - they hate them and prefer to duke it out with the North Africans. By the way, unlike other nations the Spanish do understand the difference between regular Romanians and gypsies from Romania. One of my gym buddies is from Romania and he's clearly not a gypsy - pretty white looking.

There is also a difference between the gypsies from Romania and the ones who grew up here. The latter have a deep culture and as I said managed to find widespread acceptance (to some extend) in Spanish culture. The former are the scum of the earth and rigorous measures should be taken to encourage them to abandon their pilfering lifestyle. Unfortunately the pertinent laws are pretty lax over here and there will be a long term price to pay.

FWIW - I've run into some Romanian girls and they are among the hottest pieces of ass I have come across. Again, not gypsy bitches - regular Romanian women.

Yes- I have rarely seen a gypsy woman worth fucking. Romanian girls and slavic girls in general can be ridiculously hot.

[Vicious]

I'm the last person you'll see blaming the ills of society on particular races.

I make an exception for gypsies.

[LEMONed IScream]

I generally agree with what has been said here about the parasitic existence of gypsies.

But hey, these "gypsies" are kinda cool.

(Just to lighten up stuff )

[turbopg]

in the past, the EU was condemning us Romanians saying that we are discriminating gypsies. now they had the chance to see for themselves what "great" people the gypsies are. but they're not learning, the EU is giving us the political correctness bullshit and has imposed a fine in Romania of up to 7000 euro if we call a gypsy what we always called a gypsy which is "tigan". we're now supposed to call them "rrom" as in like what the gypsies want to be called but hey even the Romanian newspapers still call them "tigan".
we don't hate gypsies for their skin color, we hate gypsies for their extremely annoying behavior and total disregard for civilization. there's a rare exception, a Romanian gypsy that's a singer (former rapper) that goes by the stage name Connect-R and that behaves like a civilized intelligent person. he sings european style dance music and his facebook page has 1 million likes, mostly by Romanians, proof that we don't hate gypsies for their race but for the horrible behavior. but almost all the other gypsies - are dirty, they throw the garbage around themselves, they shout in their nomad language, steal, gather up into gangs (of organized crime sometimes), pretend to be witches, pretend to be fortune tellers, make their children beg, they sing some horrible oriental music, they wear their parrot colored clothes and they build themselves oriental style houses. Marshal Antonescu deported all the Romanian gypsies to Transnistria in WW2 but unfortunately they came back after the war and they will always cause trouble everywhere they go, they are never going to integrate into a civilized society. because of the name confusion, us Romanians are being wrongfully seen as wrongdoers particularly in Italy when in fact the gypsies are generally to blame. I hope that over time the world will understand that Romanians and Romani have nothing to do with each other. and they should stop calling them Romani and call them gypsy.

[Volk]

In Hungary they hate them so much that if it wasn't for the European history and the world having eyes in every corner, they would have all been killed by now. I'll say, if the world goes to the gutter quickly, the first ones to get gutted are going to be the Gypsies in central-eastern Europe, specially here by the Magyar Garda.

For example, a friend of mine has a knife given to him by his grandfather. He engraved the handle with a gypsie's tooth he snatched from one he beat up and wrote on it "Ciganygyilkos" (Gypsy killer). The other side doesn't help it either, stealing anything that is not bolted down to sell for scrap, such as public statues, trashcans, locks and such.

[soup]

Let's condemn individual people's bad actions not an entire race, ok?

Otherwise it could be argued that white people are killing the Earth, and all black people are gang members.

[turbopg]

@Volk - yeap, the whole world knows gypsies everywhere are generally a pain in the ass (with very few exceptions) yet nothing is done about it, on the contrary, the political correctness is only getting worse and for them to live off welfare in a Western country means that they will never again feel like making the slightest effort to do something useful for society. they will just spend tax payers' money and annoy people continuously.