[Kingsley Davis]

(11-07-2013 06:36 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(11-07-2013 12:46 PM)Peregrine Wrote:  

I'll second Athlone. At the risk of race trolling, in the mind of a white-washed/Westernized Asian woman, white men outrank Asian men.

I think the explanation for the asian-female/white-male pairing being one of asian females trying to fit in, or being "white-washed," are weak.

Black women are also exposed to white-washing and yet they aren't clamoring for a white boyfriend.

Yet when white guys go to Asia, even the nerdiest, lamest of men usually have no trouble finding a girlfriend. This indicates to me that cultural explanations will not do.

Instead, I think this is a case of sexual selection. Asian-females/white-male pairings are common because they find each other highly attractive, and they usually produce attractive offspring.

"Black women are also exposed to white-washing and yet they aren't clamoring for a white boyfriend."

[Swooper]

I don't understand the debate here. Yes it's easier for white guys to land asian girls in America or overseas than any other interracial pairing but this is absolutely old news. And no it's not true that Asian guys are all squirming betas with no game.

[wolf]

(11-07-2013 08:21 PM)dreambig Wrote:  

(11-07-2013 08:07 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(11-07-2013 07:59 PM)dreambig Wrote:  

Please define "Asia" for us. Are you including places like Japan and Korea in this? I know several white foreigners in Japan who never get laid.

How old are these dudes? Are they under 30? Are they fat, bald, or pyscho?

One is early 30s and banking 100k+ over here. Doesn't help him one bit. He is on the big side but nothing special. He did fine in the States and was even dating cheerleaders in high school. Girls don't give him the time of day here.

Another is a Greek student I know. Has terrible game. Gets blown out of every set. I try to keep him away from my sets but he comes over anyway (we go to the same bars).

There are others I know that rarely get laid. Some are broke English teachers (not the majority but anyone who has lived here will attest that these guys exist).

Please send me to Japan. I do ok with asians in US, but I think in Japan I would kill.

[Celtic]

Whats the news here? Betas are always going to blame anyone besides themselves for their failures with women.

What is easier for a dorky asian dude? Work on game, develop yourself as a man, dedicate your life to self-improvement, and get whatever kind of woman it is they want? Or it is easier to make snarky graphics on the internet and blame your failures with women on evil white men, colonialism, white-washing or whatever bullshit else there is?

Maybe it's not fair that being white I'll get an edge with some women. But what about this world is fair? You want to talk about unfair, compare the life of any of us in a first world country to that of a kid growing up in a third world slum who isn't going to get a chance at the lifestyle we have. That difference makes any edge one race has in the dating game seem puny by comparison.

Ya know, it's a competitive world and I'm going to take whatever angle or edge I can use to get what I want. Anyone who doesn't expect other men to do the same is fooling himself.

[Sargon of Akkad]

Yaaaaay...

...another thread describing how, apparently, the averge Asian chic will jump out of a speeding car onto the cock of a homeless junky in an alley who hasn't showered in weeks without a moments hesitation...just to get her hands on some white dick

I've never been to SF and I don't know that many American Asian chics, but since this is nearly identical to the stories people keep spouting about Asian women in Asia, I think I'll take that with a pinch of salt. It looks like we may have encountered a close cousin of the IRT, the ART.

(11-07-2013 06:36 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Instead, I think this is a case of sexual selection. Asian-females/white-male pairings are common because they find each other highly attractive, and they usually produce attractive offspring.

Yes, European males and East Asian females have been specially genetically engineered by aliens to bone eachother ad nauseam until they ultimately breed a race of superbabies that will run the world, whom the aliens will be able to manipulate through a special mind control mechanism they implanted in the DNA of all East Asians and white folks.

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[...]and they usually produce attractive offspring.

I'm sure it's just a coincidence that the author of this post is half White/Asian.

(11-07-2013 06:36 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Yet when white guys go to Asia, even the nerdiest, lamest of men usually have no trouble finding a girlfriend.

...Ceterum censeo Osakam esse delendam!

[Samseau]

(11-07-2013 08:21 PM)dreambig Wrote:  

(11-07-2013 08:07 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(11-07-2013 07:59 PM)dreambig Wrote:  

Please define "Asia" for us. Are you including places like Japan and Korea in this? I know several white foreigners in Japan who never get laid.

How old are these dudes? Are they under 30? Are they fat, bald, or pyscho?

One is early 30s and banking 100k+ over here. Doesn't help him one bit. He is on the big side but nothing special. He did fine in the States and was even dating cheerleaders in high school. Girls don't give him the time of day here.

Is fat is he? He may not have the right "look" for asian women. Asians really look down on fatties. In shape, younger looking the better.

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Another is a Greek student I know. Has terrible game. Gets blown out of every set. I try to keep him away from my sets but he comes over anyway (we go to the same bars).

Travel can't cure bad game.

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There are others I know that rarely get laid. Some are broke English teachers (not the majority but anyone who has lived here will attest that these guys exist).

Dudes at the bottom of the totem pole of Japan? I imagine it must be hard for these guys to get laid in such an expensive country.

But you know what? 2 out of the 3 dudes you described wouldn't be getting ass in America either. So that's not good evidence to support your argument. I'm not saying Asia will save all men. I'm saying Asia will be easier for most.

[Peregrine]

(11-07-2013 06:36 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(11-07-2013 12:46 PM)Peregrine Wrote:  

I'll second Athlone. At the risk of race trolling, in the mind of a white-washed/Westernized Asian woman, white men outrank Asian men.

I think the explanation for the asian-female/white-male pairing being one of asian females trying to fit in, or being "white-washed," are weak.

Black women are also exposed to white-washing and yet they aren't clamoring for a white boyfriend.

Yet when white guys go to Asia, even the nerdiest, lamest of men usually have no trouble finding a girlfriend. This indicates to me that cultural explanations will not do.

Instead, I think this is a case of sexual selection. Asian-females/white-male pairings are common because they find each other highly attractive, and they usually produce attractive offspring.

I think you misunderstood me. My initial statement was simply an observation, correlation at most. "White-washed Asian women tend to value white men more than Asian men, all else equal." I didn't give a reason. I included the "white-washed" qualifier because you don't usually see a white male with a non-Westernized Asian female in North America. Most likely reason being there's too little in common.

I'm not too concerned with the why though. It's like Celtic said. If white-washed Asian women tend to value white men more than Asian men, all else equal, the Asian man should work his ass off to make sure that all things are not equal.

[Bushido]

(11-08-2013 01:16 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Is fat is he? He may not have the right "look" for asian women. Asians really look down on fatties. In shape, younger looking the better.

Travel can't cure bad game.

Dudes at the bottom of the totem pole of Japan? I imagine it must be hard for these guys to get laid in such an expensive country.

But you know what? 2 out of the 3 dudes you described wouldn't be getting ass in America either. So that's not good evidence to support your argument. I'm not saying Asia will save all men. I'm saying Asia will be easier for most.

You did say "when white guys go to Asia, even the nerdiest, lamest of men usually have no trouble finding a girlfriend" so I gave some examples that contradicted that statement. It's just a silly shaming stereotype propagated by insecure white girls and it needs to die. Not to mention that most foreigners are not dating anything like the top quality girls in Asian countries. Many do worse than back home.

I actually agree with you about the above analysis of those guys but you seem to be in two minds about this. You do still need to be in shape, have game, language skills, some money and social awareness in Japan to do well. So...nerdy, lame men will not be getting laid yes? In other words, it's little different from anywhere else.

If any of you want to come to Tokyo and show me how it's done then go ahead. I'm all for foreigners doing better over here with Japanese girls.

[Sargon of Akkad]

This post...

(11-07-2013 06:36 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Yet when white guys go to Asia, even the nerdiest, lamest of men usually have no trouble finding a girlfriend.

Then this...

(11-08-2013 01:16 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Travel can't cure bad game.

.......?????????????

[Samseau]

(11-07-2013 07:53 PM)Goldin Boy Wrote:  

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Black women are also exposed to white-washing and yet they aren't clamoring for a white boyfriend.

Respectfully disagree with this.

I think it's a matter of access. For reasons that I won't delve into most Blacks live in poorer communities which are predominantly Black. White and Asians are more likely to be in the same socio-economic strata and ergo more likely to interact, bang, marry, etc.

From observing friends in the South Bronx, White guys or light-skinned Hispanic, usually pulled the flyest Black chick. Look the popularity of that show "Scandal" with Black females. The fantasy of dating-up isn't lost on them.

Basketball is more popular in the inner city than hockey b/c it's easier and cheaper. Hockey requires an indoor rink, pads, skates, lessons, Zambonis, etc. Basketball court requires less money, and maitenance. So Black women play basketball b/c there's a court on every street but would jump at the chance to play hockey if they could find a place.

Issues of access disappear after high school. I don't see why it would be difficult for whites and blacks to mingle, even in most parts of the south, since most major cities in America have large centers where whites and blacks can meet each other. Not to mention that college educated black women are in workplaces with many white men, and college educated black girls outnumber black men by something crazy like 4:1. And yet in spite of this the white man/black woman is one of the smallest interracial coupling in America, whereas Black Men/White Women is one of the highest.

Thus there is a clear preference of white men to asian/white women, and this matches much of what I have seen.

There is also the possibility of black women having a really bad reputation with black men, and white men also being afraid.

(11-08-2013 01:58 AM)dreambig Wrote:  

(11-08-2013 01:16 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

Is fat is he? He may not have the right "look" for asian women. Asians really look down on fatties. In shape, younger looking the better.

Travel can't cure bad game.

Dudes at the bottom of the totem pole of Japan? I imagine it must be hard for these guys to get laid in such an expensive country.

But you know what? 2 out of the 3 dudes you described wouldn't be getting ass in America either. So that's not good evidence to support your argument. I'm not saying Asia will save all men. I'm saying Asia will be easier for most.

You did say "when white guys go to Asia, even the nerdiest, lamest of men usually have no trouble finding a girlfriend" so I gave some examples that contradicted that statement. It's just a silly shaming stereotype propagated by insecure white girls and it needs to die. Not to mention that most foreigners are not dating anything like the top quality girls in Asian countries. Many do worse than back home.

I actually agree with you about the above analysis of those guys but you seem to be in two minds about this. You do still need to be in shape, have game, language skills, some money and social awareness in Japan to do well. So...nerdy, lame men will not be getting laid yes? In other words, it's little different from anywhere else.

If any of you want to come to Tokyo and show me how it's done then go ahead. I'm all for foreigners doing better over here with Japanese girls.

You're right, I was using too much hyperbole. Not all lame men can travel and get laid, but I didn't mean it like that. I'm not talking about broke dudes, or fat dudes. I didn't say the biggest of losers can get laid. I'm talking about guys with weak game.

Also, there are definitely regional differences in difficulty with getting laid, not to mention the man's ability to find a niche of women to bang. But these things are too specific to the man, and aren't worth talking about. It's entirely possible for a man to get nothing in one Japanese nightclub but then pull tons of ass out of another club next door. Furthermore, whether it is through online, night/day game, or through a workplace, the man always needs basic game. These things I take for granted, since without them you will have a difficult time getting laid anywhere.

And of course there is the language barrier. Pretty hard to overcome for most guys, let alone a guy with no game.

Regardless the exotic factor/white god factor usually is enough to give a major advantage to white men, perhaps not in quality but definitely quantity. And of course there are areas of Asia saturated with white men, such as Bangkok, but one city does not make the rule.

[Saladin]

(11-07-2013 11:46 PM)Celtic Wrote:  

Whats the news here? Betas are always going to blame anyone besides themselves for their failures with women.

What is easier for a dorky asian dude? Work on game, develop yourself as a man, dedicate your life to self-improvement, and get whatever kind of woman it is they want? Or it is easier to make snarky graphics on the internet and blame your failures with women on evil white men, colonialism, white-washing or whatever bullshit else there is?

Maybe it's not fair that being white I'll get an edge with some women. But what about this world is fair? You want to talk about unfair, compare the life of any of us in a first world country to that of a kid growing up in a third world slum who isn't going to get a chance at the lifestyle we have. That difference makes any edge one race has in the dating game seem puny by comparison.

Ya know, it's a competitive world and I'm going to take whatever angle or edge I can use to get what I want. Anyone who doesn't expect other men to do the same is fooling himself.

Yeah these asian dudes have zero swag or game and they bitch about asian girls dating white dudes.

Of course they would, a huge number of Asian guys out there are complete chumps.

Asian dudes who have game do fine and rack up notches pretty easily.

[Samseau]

There is also the question of supply and demand. In the average chinese city of 4-7 million people, you could go there and be one of 100 white men or less. Asians outnumber whites by a huge margin, so this ratio factor plays huge for times when you see betas scoring hot asian women in asia.

[Brosemite]

(11-08-2013 02:29 AM)torontokid Wrote:  

Yeah these asian dudes have zero swag or game and they bitch about asian girls dating white dudes.

Of course they would, a huge number of Asian guys out there are complete chumps.

Asian dudes who have game do fine and rack up notches pretty easily.

Yeah there's a lot of them who are just overly co-dependent on their Asian guy friends so they sit around waiting for social circle-based hookups & then also proceed to complain about how some Asian chicks date white guys, etc etc...as if them living in a 1st world with endless options (outside the increasing number of fatties of course) is such a bad thing. This is particularly true of many in NY and parts of Cali.

Whatever the case, that flow chart is still genius IMO as I got a good laugh out of it for what it was.

[Deluge]

(11-08-2013 02:29 AM)torontokid Wrote:  

(11-07-2013 11:46 PM)Celtic Wrote:  

Whats the news here? Betas are always going to blame anyone besides themselves for their failures with women.

What is easier for a dorky asian dude? Work on game, develop yourself as a man, dedicate your life to self-improvement, and get whatever kind of woman it is they want? Or it is easier to make snarky graphics on the internet and blame your failures with women on evil white men, colonialism, white-washing or whatever bullshit else there is?

Maybe it's not fair that being white I'll get an edge with some women. But what about this world is fair? You want to talk about unfair, compare the life of any of us in a first world country to that of a kid growing up in a third world slum who isn't going to get a chance at the lifestyle we have. That difference makes any edge one race has in the dating game seem puny by comparison.

Ya know, it's a competitive world and I'm going to take whatever angle or edge I can use to get what I want. Anyone who doesn't expect other men to do the same is fooling himself.

Yeah these asian dudes have zero swag or game and they bitch about asian girls dating white dudes.

Of course they would, a huge number of Asian guys out there are complete chumps.

Asian dudes who have game do fine and rack up notches pretty easily.

Word.

Most Asian girls in my city (which has a significant Asian population) either exclusively date Asian guys, OR exclusively date non-Asians (mainly Anglo's and sometimes westernized Indians, but never the many guido Italian and Greek dudes we have).

It's very rare to find an Asian girl who prefers to date Asians and non-Asians equally. The best predictor of which they prefer isn't how hot they are (imo the Asian girls who most militantly despise Asian guys are the westernized plain ones who never get any alpha attention, which I think they blame on race like an IRT rather than owning up to their own unattractiveness, so deep down they wish to be white), but rather the ethnic makeup of their social circle.

[DVY]

Tons of girls have told me that they wanted to date a handsome Asian guy but couldnt find one yet (wink wink).

I think its more a problem w/Asian guys then girls.

This flowchart is vastly simplified, but Asian girls respect dominance A LOT. White guys are generally more aggressive than asians. Same w/bad-boy Asians.

[WalterBlack]

(11-08-2013 01:46 AM)Peregrine Wrote:  

I think you misunderstood me. My initial statement was simply an observation, correlation at most. "White-washed Asian women tend to value white men more than Asian men, all else equal." I didn't give a reason. I included the "white-washed" qualifier because you don't usually see a white male with a non-Westernized Asian female in North America. Most likely reason being there's too little in common.

I'm not too concerned with the why though. It's like Celtic said. If white-washed Asian women tend to value white men more than Asian men, all else equal, the Asian man should work his ass off to make sure that all things are not equal.

I disagree...there's tons of FOB Asian women with American men in the US. I'm not American (I'm British) but I went for dinner last night with a FOB Chinese lady in Los Angeles. She's not westernised at all - her whole social circle is Chinese. I've had some of these women tell me they like American (or other non-Asian) men because they don't have stuff in common - they don't like the mindset of traditional Asian men.

I personally know a couple of white American guys with FOB wives from China and Japan.

[Peregrine]

(11-08-2013 01:21 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

(11-08-2013 01:46 AM)Peregrine Wrote:  

I think you misunderstood me. My initial statement was simply an observation, correlation at most. "White-washed Asian women tend to value white men more than Asian men, all else equal." I didn't give a reason. I included the "white-washed" qualifier because you don't usually see a white male with a non-Westernized Asian female in North America. Most likely reason being there's too little in common.

I'm not too concerned with the why though. It's like Celtic said. If white-washed Asian women tend to value white men more than Asian men, all else equal, the Asian man should work his ass off to make sure that all things are not equal.

I disagree...there's tons of FOB Asian women with American men in the US. I'm not American (I'm British) but I went for dinner last night with a FOB Chinese lady in Los Angeles. She's not westernised at all - her whole social circle is Chinese. I've had some of these women tell me they like American (or other non-Asian) men because they don't have stuff in common - they don't like the mindset of traditional Asian men.

I personally know a couple of white American guys with FOB wives from China and Japan.

You're right. I should have added "within the 18 to 25 year old age group". I do see quite a few fob Asian female/white male pairings in the 40+ bracket.

[Doctore]

(11-08-2013 02:29 AM)torontokid Wrote:  

Yeah these asian dudes have zero swag or game and they bitch about asian girls dating white dudes.

Of course they would, a huge number of Asian guys out there are complete chumps.

Asian dudes who have game do fine and rack up notches pretty easily.

White guys bitch so hard about the same things that entire organisations or huge online communities have been set up to cater for them: WN, HBD, Manosphere blogs etc.

Have you run into the equivalent Asian ones? lol

Fewer white women date out than Asian women, on paper, yet white guys bitch harder about that Asian guys do.

We're not very different if you look below the superficial manifestations of our struggles. The gameless frustrated chumps are always the majority, regardless of race.

(11-08-2013 06:54 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

Word.

Most Asian girls in my city (which has a significant Asian population) either exclusively date Asian guys, OR exclusively date non-Asians (mainly Anglo's and sometimes westernized Indians, but never the many guido Italian and Greek dudes we have).

It's very rare to find an Asian girl who prefers to date Asians and non-Asians equally. The best predictor of which they prefer isn't how hot they are (imo the Asian girls who most militantly despise Asian guys are the westernized plain ones who never get any alpha attention, which I think they blame on race like an IRT rather than owning up to their own unattractiveness, so deep down they wish to be white), but rather the ethnic makeup of their social circle.

I believe we live in the same city from your datasheets. I'm Asian myself.

The Asian chicks in bold are the plain ones with parental issues. They get pressured from a young age by their parents to find a good Asian guy for a serious relationship, but they are simply not attractive enough to get one. Keep in mind that a quality Asian guy has a huge market to choose from, not just in Australia but also in Asia. Those Asian Aussie girls cannot compete with that. The longer they're unable to find a guy, the worse the pressure gets, and Asian parents do not mince words, they get very rude. Those chicks militantly hate Asian guys because of this, and exaggerate any fault they find in them. They're fucked in the head. Kinda like an IRT, as you put it. If you're a white guy and want to LTR/wife up one of those, keep in mind that it's the same as a white girl with serious daddy issues who hates her own skin.

[Agastya]

(11-07-2013 11:46 PM)Celtic Wrote:  

Whats the news here? Betas are always going to blame anyone besides themselves for their failures with women.

What is easier for a dorky asian dude? Work on game, develop yourself as a man, dedicate your life to self-improvement, and get whatever kind of woman it is they want? Or it is easier to make snarky graphics on the internet and blame your failures with women on evil white men, colonialism, white-washing or whatever bullshit else there is?

Maybe it's not fair that being white I'll get an edge with some women. But what about this world is fair? You want to talk about unfair, compare the life of any of us in a first world country to that of a kid growing up in a third world slum who isn't going to get a chance at the lifestyle we have. That difference makes any edge one race has in the dating game seem puny by comparison.

Ya know, it's a competitive world and I'm going to take whatever angle or edge I can use to get what I want. Anyone who doesn't expect other men to do the same is fooling himself.

Well put. I will freely admit that, following nights of brutal rejection, I have tried to blame my failures on my race. I'd bemoan how unfair it was that I was born Indian. I'd bitch to my friends about how hooking up would be easier if I had been born white. Maybe it would be slightly easier, but who the fuck really cares? Those girls didn't really discount me because of the color of my skin. They discounted me because I sidled up out of state, badly dressed, and lacking any kind of social proof or pre-selection.

It's easier on your brain to blame other people/culture/racism/magical space bunnies for your failures. It's difficult to truly believe that none of those things really matter, that your shortcomings are a result of your lack of hard work, your lack of personal effort. When I'm gaming some girl, it's not the color of my skin that makes or breaks it for me, or for anyone. It's the amount of work I put into weightlifting, the hours I spent daygaming in high school, and the good amount of random luck and happenstance that accompanies any night out.

Being Asian or Indian makes the game harder? Maybe. Guess what it also does? It forces you to work hard. It makes you tougher, stronger, and ultimately a better person with better game. The race trolls can get stuffed.

And on a side note, I don't know where this stereotype of Asian women despising Asian men even comes from. In the South Bay Area at least I saw tons of beautiful Asian girls with pretty chode Asian guys, so we can assume that they're fairly into their own race. Maybe things are different in SoCal/wherever else Asians abound, but in NorCal at least Asian girls are very attracted to Asian guys.

[IntlGamer]

I grew up in California and the stereotype about Asian girls worshipping White cock is partially true, here at least. I am non-Asian and non-White. Here is what I noticed:

I've seen SOME Asian-American girls who are very educated, Westernized, and socially saavy publicly say things like "I would never date an Asian guy eww" or "I want to marry a White guy because White babies or Mixed babies are so beautiful." They say these things in front of other people, as casually as if they were talking about the weather. These are the same girls you see going to White bars and clubs acting like groupies for White guys. These girls are so self-hating and racist they really stick out in most of our minds and hence the stereotype about Asian girls and White guys.

But I'd say in raw numbers, MOST Asian girls end up dating and even just casually hooking up with Asian guys. There are lots of clubs and bars in Southern California where they have Asian nights, and you'll see lots of Asian girls just flirting with Asian bros.

So those white-worshipping Asian girls may not be the majority, but they just stick out in our minds because the things they say and their behavior (acting really slutty in presence of White guys) is so out of the ordinary.

One time I was at a frat party and a friend of mine who is Latino was hitting on an Asian girl. She asked his name and he said "My name is X." Then she drunkenly said, "Oh I know another guy named X, but he's better - he's White." I literally dropped my mouth when I heard. It was shocking because my university was really liberal and diverse. My friend told her off and we left and he said, "Man those Asian girls are so racist and self-hating." I have at least 5 stories like this I can recall off the top of my head. This shows that there are many girls like that out there and everyone knows about them. But again I don't think they're the majority.

[Lyokoz]

(11-08-2013 07:00 PM)Doctore Wrote:  

(11-08-2013 02:29 AM)torontokid Wrote:  

Yeah these asian dudes have zero swag or game and they bitch about asian girls dating white dudes.

Of course they would, a huge number of Asian guys out there are complete chumps.

Asian dudes who have game do fine and rack up notches pretty easily.

White guys bitch so hard about the same things that entire organisations or huge online communities have been set up to cater for them: WN, HBD, Manosphere blogs etc.

Have you run into the equivalent Asian ones? lol

Fewer white women date out than Asian women, on paper, yet white guys bitch harder about that Asian guys do.

We're not very different if you look below the superficial manifestations of our struggles. The gameless frustrated chumps are always the majority, regardless of race.

(11-08-2013 06:54 AM)P Dog Wrote:  

Word.

Most Asian girls in my city (which has a significant Asian population) either exclusively date Asian guys, OR exclusively date non-Asians (mainly Anglo's and sometimes westernized Indians, but never the many guido Italian and Greek dudes we have).

It's very rare to find an Asian girl who prefers to date Asians and non-Asians equally. The best predictor of which they prefer isn't how hot they are (imo the Asian girls who most militantly despise Asian guys are the westernized plain ones who never get any alpha attention, which I think they blame on race like an IRT rather than owning up to their own unattractiveness, so deep down they wish to be white), but rather the ethnic makeup of their social circle.

I believe we live in the same city from your datasheets. I'm Asian myself.

The Asian chicks in bold are the plain ones with parental issues. They get pressured from a young age by their parents to find a good Asian guy for a serious relationship, but they are simply not attractive enough to get one. Keep in mind that a quality Asian guy has a huge market to choose from, not just in Australia but also in Asia. Those Asian Aussie girls cannot compete with that. The longer they're unable to find a guy, the worse the pressure gets, and Asian parents do not mince words, they get very rude. Those chicks militantly hate Asian guys because of this, and exaggerate any fault they find in them. They're fucked in the head. Kinda like an IRT, as you put it. If you're a white guy and want to LTR/wife up one of those, keep in mind that it's the same as a white girl with serious daddy issues who hates her own skin.

Don't discount EE and central Asia (It's all in Asia technically, I know). Here is a story of a Korean guy with an Uzbek wife. If only we could all be so fortunate. She's smokin'.

[El Chinito loco]

I've been traveling back and forth between SE/NE Asia and CA for a long time now (10 years) and have lived in various countries in Asia most notably Thailand, Taiwan, and China for a bit. I honestly don't see this phenomenon of any busted white guy with hot asian girl. I think the whole race angle is overplayed.

As an example i'm in Bangkok now and this is what I see..

I tend to see couples who have at least some physical congruence on the attractiveness scale unless there's some sort of p4p involved. P4p arrangements are pretty obvious most of the time too. I have seen white guys with pretty local Thai women but these white guys were way above average in looks/height. They tended to be over 5'10" with classically handsome faces along with dress sense and probably even money. They had swagger and obvious game too, so I wouldn't be surprised if a few of them were Rooshv members. These are also guys who would probably do well with most any ethnicity/nationality woman, period. These exceptionally attractive couples are sort of rare though.

More often than not I see average looking foreign men with average or even below average looking Thai girls. There definitely aren't dorky white beanpoles or scrawny silicon valley types dating women that looked like they came out of girl's generation.

In fact i'll go out there and say I have observed way more busted looking local asian guys with stunners than anything else. I am an asian-american guy in Asia and I regularly see really skinny Thai guys with bad skin and bad dress sense with very good looking asian university girls.

[WalterBlack]

(11-08-2013 07:41 PM)IntlGamer Wrote:  

I've seen SOME Asian-American girls who are very educated, Westernized, and socially saavy publicly say things like "I would never date an Asian guy eww" or "I want to marry a White guy because White babies or Mixed babies are so beautiful." They say these things in front of other people, as casually as if they were talking about the weather. These are the same girls you see going to White bars and clubs acting like groupies for White guys. These girls are so self-hating and racist they really stick out in most of our minds and hence the stereotype about Asian girls and White guys.

I've come across Asian women (all SE Asian) who told me that their own mothers told them to marry white guys.

[Lyokoz]

(11-08-2013 07:41 PM)IntlGamer Wrote:  

I grew up in California and the stereotype about Asian girls worshipping White cock is partially true, here at least. I am non-Asian and non-White. Here is what I noticed:

I've seen SOME Asian-American girls who are very educated, Westernized, and socially saavy publicly say things like "I would never date an Asian guy eww" or "I want to marry a White guy because White babies or Mixed babies are so beautiful." They say these things in front of other people, as casually as if they were talking about the weather. These are the same girls you see going to White bars and clubs acting like groupies for White guys. These girls are so self-hating and racist they really stick out in most of our minds and hence the stereotype about Asian girls and White guys.

But I'd say in raw numbers, MOST Asian girls end up dating and even just casually hooking up with Asian guys. There are lots of clubs and bars in Southern California where they have Asian nights, and you'll see lots of Asian girls just flirting with Asian bros.

So those white-worshipping Asian girls may not be the majority, but they just stick out in our minds because the things they say and their behavior (acting really slutty in presence of White guys) is so out of the ordinary.

One time I was at a frat party and a friend of mine who is Latino was hitting on an Asian girl. She asked his name and he said "My name is X." Then she drunkenly said, "Oh I know another guy named X, but he's better - he's White." I literally dropped my mouth when I heard. It was shocking because my university was really liberal and diverse. My friend told her off and we left and he said, "Man those Asian girls are so racist and self-hating." I have at least 5 stories like this I can recall off the top of my head. This shows that there are many girls like that out there and everyone knows about them. But again I don't think they're the majority.

I'd like to believe that but the IR marriage numbers don't lie. Dating and cohabitation is even higher. I see girls like that online all the time. The "I only find Caucasian men attractive sorry, I'm not racist tho" types are particularly annoying. I recently saw a Laotian chick that had "I only date outside my race! So stop asking!" on her profile. She didn't specify who she did date.

It's a goal of mine to bang one of those types.

[El Chinito loco]

(11-08-2013 08:18 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  

(11-08-2013 07:41 PM)IntlGamer Wrote:  

I've seen SOME Asian-American girls who are very educated, Westernized, and socially saavy publicly say things like "I would never date an Asian guy eww" or "I want to marry a White guy because White babies or Mixed babies are so beautiful." They say these things in front of other people, as casually as if they were talking about the weather. These are the same girls you see going to White bars and clubs acting like groupies for White guys. These girls are so self-hating and racist they really stick out in most of our minds and hence the stereotype about Asian girls and White guys.

I've come across Asian women (all SE Asian) who told me that their own mothers told them to marry white guys.

One of the thai government ministers once made a very non-PC statement once that was something to the effect of "I hope all Thais in the northeast and other poor rural areas find a nice european foreigner to marry their governments will pay for the shitty diapers and everything else."