[ksbms]

(02-05-2019 07:45 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  

Had this girl approach me. Chatted, got the number though I should have gone for the instadate, lesson learnt. Anyway, got the number. Texting was strictly logistics, she says ok to meet up but then hit the "I am tired with work' excuse ending with a "I still do want to meet up for a drink though honest' line with no alternative dates.

Replied with 'pfft', credits to hank moody. She replied unusually quickly with an angry emoticon.

There's decent room to play here, reinterpret the emoticon sexually.

- pfft
- "angry emoticon"
- some pent up energy there? (wink emoticon optional)

[ksbms]

(02-06-2019 10:12 PM)Hegemon1984 Wrote:  

Evening gentlemen,

So I'm relatively new to cold approaching, but I'm absolutely new to text game. I have no idea what to say or do. I mainly use text for logistics with a girl. In any other case, I'm willing to give it a shot because why the fuck not. Let's get to the story:

I met this cute Latina girl at the community college I haunt. Hipster. Loves rock and that godawful hipster music. I cold approached her and stated, "Hey, so I saw you around the corner and I thought you were cute so I wanted to meet you." We talked for about 20 minutes before her Dad picked her up from community college. At first, she asked me if I had Instagram. I said no and asked for her number. She gave it to me and here's the text history atm. Keep in mind, this was an hour ago.

Me: "Hey [her name], it's Adam that Asian dude you met... save my number."

Her: "Okay [insert squirrel emoji here]."

Me: "My lazy ass needs to create an Instagram."

Her: "Yes it's the new resume." (As in 'social resume', when she asked if I had Instagram, I said no but a buddy of mine called it a 'social resume'. She seemed to adapt that idea.)

So gentlemen, how do I proceed to create attraction?

PS: She showed me her Instagram. It was mostly inspirational quotes and a few pictures of her. Very cute. She said she had other 'mature' pictures of her, but she keeps those private. Subtle suggestion maybe?

Yes. Read the whole thread from top to bottom first to crawl out of the texting pre-kindergarten that you're in.

[Anchor Man]

(02-05-2019 07:45 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  

Had this girl approach me. Chatted, got the number though I should have gone for the instadate, lesson learnt. Anyway, got the number. Texting was strictly logistics, she says ok to meet up but then hit the "I am tired with work' excuse ending with a "I still do want to meet up for a drink though honest' line with no alternative dates.

Replied with 'pfft', credits to hank moody. She replied unusually quickly with an angry emoticon.

Is this just another flake or is there more to it? Reply or ignore?

Cheers

Like others said , you should have gone with no reply and reinitiate later.
1- Positive signs : She approached you. She said she want to go for drinks
2- Negative signs: She flaked . No counter offer .

I wouldn't think too much about "no counter offer". Not every girl counter offers.

Verdict : It is still on.

[Hegemon1984]

Evening gentlemen,

'm talking to this sweet Latina girl who I ran across from the local community college. So far, we've been discussing movies we're into and the like. If I had a "favorite" girl I approached so far, it'd be her. Here's the text conversation we've had so far:

Me: "Hey [her name], it's Adam from AWC... save my number giiiirl (this is mostly Clown Game I learned from Roosh V. When I approached her, I did a mixture of Clown Game and direct game)

Me (next day): "Hey [her name], it's Adam... that Asian guy you met at AWC last night. You said you liked watching TV and Netflix. What do you watch?"

Her: "Hi Adam from AWC."

Her: "Action movies not really into shows that much but I'll watch some."

Me: "Hey [her name] the plant girl (she's going to college for botany). Have you seen Polar yet?"

Her: "I haven't watched it. What's it about man?"

Me: "It's based on a comic book about a hitman that wants to quit but they sent five hitmen to kill him very simple but really good think john wick meets james bond."

Her: "Oooo sounds good. I'll watch. Are you into action movies?"

Aaaand that's it. I feel it's too 'friendzone-y'. I'm unsure how to escalate in this situation. I hope I'm not developing the accursed oneitis, but this is one girl I'd love to date. If you have any suggestions, I'd love to hear it.

[Hazaer]

(02-07-2019 08:38 PM)Anchor Man Wrote:  

(02-05-2019 07:45 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  

Had this girl approach me. Chatted, got the number though I should have gone for the instadate, lesson learnt. Anyway, got the number. Texting was strictly logistics, she says ok to meet up but then hit the "I am tired with work' excuse ending with a "I still do want to meet up for a drink though honest' line with no alternative dates.

Replied with 'pfft', credits to hank moody. She replied unusually quickly with an angry emoticon.

Is this just another flake or is there more to it? Reply or ignore?

Cheers

Like others said , you should have gone with no reply and reinitiate later.
1- Positive signs : She approached you. She said she want to go for drinks
2- Negative signs: She flaked . No counter offer .

I wouldn't think too much about "no counter offer". Not every girl counter offers.

Verdict : It is still on.

Followed up with a 'hows your weekend' a few days later. She replies 'been off all weekend'. Asked her to come to a bar in an hour's time. I know its a 10 mins walk for her. She replies 'ah no cant tonight babe'. Then another text a minute later 'shoulda said earlier.' No counter offer again haha.

[Trent W.]

(02-05-2019 08:03 PM)jaynkay Wrote:  

(01-23-2019 06:04 PM)Trent W. Wrote:  

I'll preface by saying I don't care that much about losing this bang. She's quite older, lives a bit far and has a daughter therefore limited time, bad logistics. But I feel it would be good sex.

That said, how would you guys respond to the "Unfortunately I don't feel interested" text?

Background:

Woman in her early 40s, great shape, met online. Came to my place after about a month since the first contact (holidays and other stuff were between and we didn't maintain contact the whole time). We drank wine, listened to George Michael whom she adores, talked, made out and she gave me an unfinished handjob. Could tell she was horny. She was on her period and told me she wouldn't have sex because of that. She messaged me the day after the date to tell me she made it home ok, I replied and all was good.

Long story short, the woman showed signs of interest in meeting again after that but seemed a bit hesitant to do it at my place with pretty much knowing what would go down. So on my last text, I ask her if she wants to meet this coming weekend. Today, 3 days later, she sends me the text I posted at the top.

I'd guess that she wants some sort of dating relationship and probably realized that our age difference, life situation and what I want from her doesn't align with that.

The reason I'm asking is simply to see if anybody has turned something like that around.

My thoughts:
- "It's ok. If you change your mind you know where to find me." Non reactive, short, implicit but still to the point.
- "Alright. Got a new TV with better sound, if you want to listen to George Michael again hit me up." Same as above, a bit more playful and referring to our fist meet.
- "Not interested in George Michael again? Alright, can put on Phil Collins this time." Trolling, light hearted and funny, referring to the first meet.

Like I said, I'm not sweating this one. But since she didn't ghost me, it may mean she was thinking about what to do. So if I can keep the door open, I wonder what the best way to do it in is.

Papayatapper below nails it. All your messages are pleas for desperate texts which will fall on deaf ears. It's not you: just the women mentality. Next time convince a woman to have sex with you during her period. Read up and figure out a way. One strategy can be I don't find blood disgusting- here I will get a towel- let me massage you- Period makes you more horny. Here's the truth man, if you don't bang in today's shitty online dating climate you lose. No second chances period. ABC! You can't keep on refusing someone earnest and diligent- always give your all and don't stop trying. Remember she's already made up her mind to have sex with you that's why she's in your vicinity.

Thanks for the feedback. I have already posted the result of that interaction. I agree that there is some degree of wanting a text back in what I proposed, although I would not go as far as to call it desperate.

In any case, I keep the important stuff from your answer in short Always Be Closing.

[Anchor Man]

(02-10-2019 05:24 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  

(02-07-2019 08:38 PM)Anchor Man Wrote:  

(02-05-2019 07:45 PM)Hazaer Wrote:  

Had this girl approach me. Chatted, got the number though I should have gone for the instadate, lesson learnt. Anyway, got the number. Texting was strictly logistics, she says ok to meet up but then hit the "I am tired with work' excuse ending with a "I still do want to meet up for a drink though honest' line with no alternative dates.

Replied with 'pfft', credits to hank moody. She replied unusually quickly with an angry emoticon.

Is this just another flake or is there more to it? Reply or ignore?

Cheers

Like others said , you should have gone with no reply and reinitiate later.
1- Positive signs : She approached you. She said she want to go for drinks
2- Negative signs: She flaked . No counter offer .

I wouldn't think too much about "no counter offer". Not every girl counter offers.

Verdict : It is still on.

Followed up with a 'hows your weekend' a few days later. She replies 'been off all weekend'. Asked her to come to a bar in an hour's time. I know its a 10 mins walk for her. She replies 'ah no cant tonight babe'. Then another text a minute later 'shoulda said earlier.' No counter offer again haha.

I personally don't invite people an hour before the time. I invite them a day or two before.

Anyway, second time and no counter offer . You have two options :
1- No reply
2- Send her shoulder shrug emoji and leave it at this.

[AneroidOcean]

I really appreciate all the advice I've gotten over the years from members on this board (and increasingly off forum/in person) and today I stumbled across an old thread from 2013 which is still very relevant today. There's some absolute gold being dropped in it so I encourage you to read it all the way through to the end if you're looking for some great examples of how to handle the interaction, even before the first message ever hits her phone. Enjoy:

What is your text messaging script after meeting a new girl?

I noticed that this was soon before I got into a LTR where prior I had been successfully spinning multiple plates and was at the top of my text game so the impact of some of my own advice back then on me now (after being out of that LTR and struggling for quite a while) is profound.

[strider]

Smashed this Brazilian girl off tinder the other night. She loved it and was talking about “next time” before we were even done. I kicked her out after because “I had work to do”.

I’m setting up round 2 and need a cheeky response to her last message below. Her English isn’t great so a lot goes over her head, but that just makes it funnier.

Her: It’s depends if you have or not work to do Friday Night
Me: You’re the only one who works on the weekends darling
Her: I mean after sex

[AneroidOcean]

(02-12-2019 10:04 PM)strider Wrote:  

Smashed this Brazilian girl off tinder the other night. She loved it and was talking about “next time” before we were even done. I kicked her out after because “I had work to do”.

I’m setting up round 2 and need a cheeky response to her last message below. Her English isn’t great so a lot goes over her head, but that just makes it funnier.

Her: It’s depends if you have or not work to do Friday Night
Me: You’re the only one who works on the weekends darling
Her: I mean after sex

What's your goal? She doesn't want to get kicked out right afterwards but you need to clarify if you're okay with her staying or if you are planning on kicking her out again. Suggested responses will differ based on your goal.

[strider]

I’m cool with her chilling afterwards, but she’s not staying the night.

Looking for good ways to deflect this over text, and also in person when it comes time for her to leave.

[ksbms]

(02-13-2019 07:51 PM)strider Wrote:  

I’m cool with her chilling afterwards, but she’s not staying the night.

Looking for good ways to deflect this over text, and also in person when it comes time for her to leave.

AneroidOcean hinted at two, mutually exclusive options, I believe. There's a simple matrix of outcomes, regarding her asking to stay overnight:

Your yes, her yes.
Your no, her no.
your no, her yes.
Your yes, her no.

Assign intuitive probabilities to each outcome, and roll the dice to get most favourable outcome. Nevertheless, I'll leave you with a quote from Warren Buffet: "Honesty is a very expensive gift, Don't expect it from cheap people."

[NextStop100]

Stuck on a "reset" text for a girl I've seen twice and banged twice.

So far, we've only gone out, then went back and had sex. Haven't talked to her in about 4 days. We don't text much, only text to make plans to see each other.

Kind of like her, so want to send something that shows I'm thinking of spending more time with her, but also want to fuck her again.

Any thoughts?

[strider]

(02-16-2019 01:22 PM)ksbms Wrote:  

(02-13-2019 07:51 PM)strider Wrote:  

I’m cool with her chilling afterwards, but she’s not staying the night.

Looking for good ways to deflect this over text, and also in person when it comes time for her to leave.

AneroidOcean hinted at two, mutually exclusive options, I believe. There's a simple matrix of outcomes, regarding her asking to stay overnight:

Your yes, her yes.
Your no, her no.
your no, her yes.
Your yes, her no.

Assign intuitive probabilities to each outcome, and roll the dice to get most favourable outcome. Nevertheless, I'll leave you with a quote from Warren Buffet: "Honesty is a very expensive gift, Don't expect it from cheap people."

Rolled the dice and came up short. I said "depends if she's a good girl or not" and she responded positively. But since it was a non-answer she ended up asking again, and again, if she could stay over. So I just told her the truth - she couldn't because I had to get up early for something. This was a dealbreaker:

Her: Sorry, Strider. But I think you should look for someone else to hangout with
Me: Does this mean we're getting a divorce?
Her: It means that you don’t need waste your precious time with me
Me: or we could just find a day both of us are free

And then radio silence. I'll wait a couple days and restart, but it seems like I killed this one for gaming her (and making her think my reasons for kicking her out were lies) when I should've been straight up.

[coffeedrinker]

Girl I had sex on last 2 of 4 dates but she went away for 2 weeks, been texting once in a while over that time, mostly of me sending pics of doing cool stuff. Recently she got back:

Me: May have got a sport award today, let's celebrate with drinks X or Y day
Her: That's awesome!
Her: I can't this week, got a lot of college work
Her: What did you get an award for?


I'm 99.9% sure this is a soft rejection. She went from being super excited for each date to slowly being a bit distant while away, even though she does try to keep the convo going. The thing about being busy the whole week is bull, she was even busier when we going on dates and stayed the night before her big deadline. She told me she wanted a relationship early on, while I played it cool but did want to progress with her.

Planning to ignore and maybe restart in 2-3 weeks just in case?

[griffinmill]

Guys - this isn't really what to text next, but didn't know where else to put this, and I didn't want to start a new thread.

One of my preferred plates is currently playing a game. We're not in the same country at the moment (I'm back in my home country for a month, she's in EE). Her interest level when we're together seems high.

Since the distance she's stopped initiating texts. The catch is, when I do text she responds almost immediately and a thread is started, her enthusiasm is good, asking if we could facetime, etc. It's just that she never initiates anymore, putting me in a very low-value position of having to re-engage every few days to maintain contact before I return.

I could just stop contacting her altogether until I'm back in her city. But that might backfire. I'm at a loss. Should I not care about re-engaging if her enthusiasm is always high?

[Pytonga]

My text game is shite

This is what I've got from one girl

"you are sweet and king and a gentleman and there are so few left"

so Im ended in friendzone

[ksbms]

(02-22-2019 04:57 AM)Pytonga Wrote:  

My text game is shite

This is what I've got from one girl

"you are sweet and king and a gentleman and there are so few left"

so Im ended in friendzone

Girl: you are sweet and king and a gentleman and there are so few left

MasterofTheUniverse: aye, but after twilight it all changes...

[ksbms]

(02-21-2019 05:36 PM)griffinmill Wrote:  

Guys - this isn't really what to text next, but didn't know where else to put this, and I didn't want to start a new thread.

One of my preferred plates is currently playing a game. We're not in the same country at the moment (I'm back in my home country for a month, she's in EE). Her interest level when we're together seems high.

Since the distance she's stopped initiating texts. The catch is, when I do text she responds almost immediately and a thread is started, her enthusiasm is good, asking if we could facetime, etc. It's just that she never initiates anymore, putting me in a very low-value position of having to re-engage every few days to maintain contact before I return.

I could just stop contacting her altogether until I'm back in her city. But that might backfire. I'm at a loss. Should I not care about re-engaging if her enthusiasm is always high?

So it means you're invested somewhat more in her, than she is in you if it ls always you reaching out UNLESS that has been the script you've co-developed from beginning. If she's ultra-feminine and passive she may assume that's how it works - you lead, she follows.

However, you're asking the question suggests, it hasn't been like that before and you think you need to redress the balance. No doubt, a woman needs to be emotionally invested in you, ideally think about you, day-dream about you to keep it work, especially at a distance. There are different means to accomplish it and your method is better than nothing. However, it can be worrying she does not initiate any contact, and this is usually not a good sign. If you care about someone, you expect them to reach out with some reasonable regularity (which can differ from particular couple's setup, be it 10 times a day or just a few times a week).

If you really want to figure it out, put it to the test. Just don't contact her, and see how many hours/days will it take her to contact you. It will tell you where you are in her mind. However, psychologically, unpredictable, intermittent rewards work best. One trick you can do, assume she's long gone. It will generate outcome independence and clearer mind in execution. The more you worry, the more it will leak out as unbalanced, the more she withdraws, the more you pursue, the higher chance it will truly blow up. After all, its a long distance relationship and they are almost exclusively unworkable and not worth the effort.

[lunchmoney]

(02-22-2019 09:03 AM)ksbms Wrote:  

(02-21-2019 05:36 PM)griffinmill Wrote:  

Guys - this isn't really what to text next, but didn't know where else to put this, and I didn't want to start a new thread.

One of my preferred plates is currently playing a game. We're not in the same country at the moment (I'm back in my home country for a month, she's in EE). Her interest level when we're together seems high.

Since the distance she's stopped initiating texts. The catch is, when I do text she responds almost immediately and a thread is started, her enthusiasm is good, asking if we could facetime, etc. It's just that she never initiates anymore, putting me in a very low-value position of having to re-engage every few days to maintain contact before I return.

I could just stop contacting her altogether until I'm back in her city. But that might backfire. I'm at a loss. Should I not care about re-engaging if her enthusiasm is always high?

So it means you're invested somewhat more in her, than she is in you if it ls always you reaching out UNLESS that has been the script you've co-developed from beginning. If she's ultra-feminine and passive she may assume that's how it works - you lead, she follows.

However, you're asking the question suggests, it hasn't been like that before and you think you need to redress the balance. No doubt, a woman needs to be emotionally invested in you, ideally think about you, day-dream about you to keep it work, especially at a distance. There are different means to accomplish it and your method is better than nothing. However, it can be worrying she does not initiate any contact, and this is usually not a good sign. If you care about someone, you expect them to reach out with some reasonable regularity (which can differ from particular couple's setup, be it 10 times a day or just a few times a week).

If you really want to figure it out, put it to the test. Just don't contact her, and see how many hours/days will it take her to contact you. It will tell you where you are in her mind. However, psychologically, unpredictable, intermittent rewards work best. One trick you can do, assume she's long gone. It will generate outcome independence and clearer mind in execution. The more you worry, the more it will leak out as unbalanced, the more she withdraws, the more you pursue, the higher chance it will truly blow up. After all, its a long distance relationship and they are almost exclusively unworkable and not worth the effort.

I found myself somehow in a similar situation earlier this month. I hit it off with a girl I met right after the New Year, and we went on two dates. Didn't smash the first date, however did after the 2nd. I initially had interest in her from a LTR perspective, however looking back, I was invested in her much more. I would be the one initiating the contact during the week, suggesting plans, meetups etc. I think ifI had not banged, my mind would've been clearer and I wouldn't have come off as pressed to see her (and bang her) again. One-itis gets the best of us all sometimes.

I am taking the advice of leaving her alone and seeing how long it will take her to reach out.

[MOVSM]

Me: Orale! Where'd a nice Jewish girl like you learn Spanish like that?
Her: I took Spanish for three years in highschool. Plus Im a nurse so I know some medical phrases to get by. Nowhere near conversational, just picking up what I need as I ho
Her: Ah! As I go not hoe haha
Me: I think I drew blood from biting my tongue too hard
You're now liable for the damages
Her: Oops ? let me fix you up
Me: Yes. Let's do that tomorrow at xxx's in ---ton. 8ish?

***a week later***

Her: Hmm sounds like you're asking me on a date. (And apparently I'm like a week late sadly)


Now I'm kinda pissed after this exchange. She is not even hot enough to pull this kinda thing. I know I shouldn't reply for a week. Should I even bother with her or should I continue? If so-how I keep frame?

[Baphomet]

(02-26-2019 08:49 AM)MOVSM Wrote:  

Me: Orale! Where'd a nice Jewish girl like you learn Spanish like that?
Her: I took Spanish for three years in highschool. Plus Im a nurse so I know some medical phrases to get by. Nowhere near conversational, just picking up what I need as I ho
Her: Ah! As I go not hoe haha
Me: I think I drew blood from biting my tongue too hard
You're now liable for the damages
Her: Oops ? let me fix you up
Me: Yes. Let's do that tomorrow at xxx's in ---ton. 8ish?

***a week later***

Her: Hmm sounds like you're asking me on a date. (And apparently I'm like a week late sadly)


Now I'm kinda pissed after this exchange. She is not even hot enough to pull this kinda thing. I know I shouldn't reply for a week. Should I even bother with her or should I continue? If so-how I keep frame?

Who knows what's going on in her life? Right now, you're just another line of text on her phone.

It sounds like she's interested, and with as little investment as you have in her, I'd advise letting it roll off your back.

So maybe:

Her: Hmm sounds like you're asking me on a date. (And apparently I'm like a week late sadly)

You: Thought about it. But you've been a bad kitty!


That should restart it on a playful note. The Game is a journey, not a race.

[Johnaldo10]

Mistake.

[Snag87]

Just had the following exchange on POF with a 25 year old (I'm 31 but pretending to be 25 on POF)

Me opening: Love your work ethic!

Her: Thank you

Me: Yea but I need a gal who knows how to kick back and have fun as well. Is that you?

Her: Yesss that’s me. Can u eat my pussy for me tonight

Me: I was planning to hit the gym. Is your pussy worth skipping leg day?


She hasn't replied. My rationale was to make her validate herself to me but it was clearly a misstep.

[Baphomet]

(03-04-2019 01:51 AM)Snag87 Wrote:  

Just had the following exchange on POF with a 25 year old (I'm 31 but pretending to be 25 on POF)

Me opening: Love your work ethic!

Her: Thank you

Me: Yea but I need a gal who knows how to kick back and have fun as well. Is that you?

Her: Yesss that’s me. Can u eat my pussy for me tonight

Me: I was planning to hit the gym. Is your pussy worth skipping leg day?


She hasn't replied. My rationale was to make her validate herself to me but it was clearly a misstep.

Sounds like she's "pretending" too.

Number of times I've heard a 25 year old use the word "gal" - 0.