[Wutang]

Have you guys ever first hand see some guy make all the typical beta moves (buying dinner for the girl, texting her regularly, being all "gentleman"ish) and still get the girl? If so, do you think it's because he had so many other attractive qualities that he still got the girl despite doing all the wrong moves or because those moves actually worked in a specific context or for any other reason?

[YaManBT]

Yes. Guys with exorbitant amounts of looks, social status and/or money can get away with having no game or "beta game". I have seen many guys with one or more of these qualities do very well with no game.

[aphelion]

Worked pretty well for me in Poland...

[pointbreak]

This overweight guy I knew was madly in love for over 2 years with this girl who promptly friendzoned him. Eventually a bad-boy guy came along and started having sex with her. A few weeks later, when he found out he knocked her up, he disappeared. Overweight guy was the one who took care of her (physically and emotionally) before, during and after the abortion, and after a little while she slept with him and they started dating. She ended it later that year leaving him in complete despair, borderline suicidal.

[dog24]

Of course thats the norm, girls eventually get tired of being pumped and dumped, or they get lonely from chasing aloof good looking guys, and they want a guy who is "just there" whenever she wants.
They never really love those guys from what i have seen though. And the guy is most likely gonna be in the same range of attractiveness as her.

[MrXY]

Of course beta game works

Guys who use it are called "husbands"

[Doctore]

Yeah, it works for the guy going a couple of points below his SMV.

[WestIndianArchie]

Of course beta game works, but you have to define "works".

There are plenty of non-game having guys who meet girls, have sex with girls, and then date and marry said girls

So in that sense, picking a girl up, holding doors, paying for meals, using a respectable amount of affection - works.

Maybe the sex is fast, maybe slow, but for the most part, it's up to the girl to decide.

And usually after sex, she wants the option to keep him as a boyfriend or not.
Then the real costs start come, as he spends more time and money with 1 chick.
Maybe she's into him, maybe she's not.
Maybe she's faithful, maybe she's not.

But when she gets bored and breaks it off, he's typically devastated and has to rebuild his regular life and his love life.

In that sense, it doesn't work.

The woman has all of the power all of the time.

Lots of guys are cool with this. I know plenty of married guys that are fine with this arrangement.

Have a homeboy, rich as all get out, said to me recently "No strip clubs, that IM conversation we had about strip clubs, my wife found it.."

Co-worker jokes with the office, that if JJ Watt impregnated his WIFE, JJ would be cool with it, his wife would be cool with it, and HE WOULD BE COOL WITH IT.

That shit disgusts me on a level that I can't even begin to fathom.

If I never slayed another bitch in my life, that would still be better than giving up my soul.

So Beta Game works well, for women.

It's a losing bet for men.

WIA

[Architekt]

I saw it in this movie once so it definitely works because no matter how much of a loser you are the girl will always love you back if you profess your love to her and make sure she knows that it is special and that she is special to you more than any other woman alive and you buy her lots of presents and love her for who she is even if she's fat.

Movies don't lie do they???

[Fredster]

If your 5'10+, goodlooking, have money and got for 6/10 or below...sure beta game definitely works.

[Every10GivesMeA10]

I use beta game on purpose on some girls. It can work.

[UrbanNerd]

As many of you probably already know from my posts, I think the "what is alpha/beta?" constant comparison and trying to to everything in a so-called "alpha" way is DUMB...when it should be all about the net results...but that is my own personal opinion.

Having said that, my main approach is the so-called "beta provider". I basically make women THINK that they will get that security of money, marriage, house, picket-fence, travel and dog...only to dump them after I bang.

[ThePrinceOfDixie]

My friend recently got a black girl he worked/went to high school with that graduated the summer after us. I came to find out she was a virgin but he fucked her. He is not very good with women and he was friends with her for two years before it happened. Now there in a "long distance relationship" where she fucks around and does what she wants and he cant stand up to her, so I think some girls just like to power trip on beta guys.

[Cattle Rustler]

I've used semi-beta game, and still do at times.

However, I only sell them a dream. The dream is never delivered though.

They are sold that I will provide the dream for them. The reality is, I'll date them 3 times, sex at 3rd date or next. Even them, I'll have 5 different girls on rotation at the same time yet they think I'm the only one and even drop "I'll put a ring on you " a few times. As always, once you fucked them....they sort of figure it out it's a "date with sex at the end" type of thing (just meeting for sex is like dogging a pro for me).

[tylerdurden1993]

Im sure it works on desperate girls i.e. single mothers looking for a Stepdaddy for little Barnabas. Just for a little experiment when I was OkCupid I always used to message single mothers with this "beta" stuff their reactions to it were quite positive haha

[BCien]

I used it on a 19 yr old MILF, but it doesnt last long... few weeks after we just stopped talking... one day out of the blue she sent me a text asking for me to be her friend.. I just never called her or texted back after that.

[coolkid]

Worked for a friend. He's not good looking or rich but he's fucking one of his former 'friends', who's really attractive. He basically used a toned down version of compliment and cuddle texts for a year. Then his alpha friend grabbed his phone, just texted the chick that he was coming and sent him on his way. +1 for my friend.

[la_mode]

It can work for guys who have strong "natural game". Excluding the super betas, omegas, etc.

A lot of FAG game is also not necessarily beta, but also not alpha. A "higher" beta guy can sometimes outperform a "lower" alpha guy in my opinion, provided the beta is a cooler guy.

It's also possible for a beta to be a cool/attractive/funny guy, and an alpha not to be cool/attractive/funny guy. Look at all those buff army guys who date whales compared to pansy hipsters in skinny jeans with hot hipster chicks.