[speakeasy]

So in conclusion we can say race makes a difference, but it isn't absolutely determinative how well you will do at the individual level. But I think we would be deluding ourselves to deny how much race makes a difference in America. If you're a black dude in the south trying to game SEC sorority white girls, good luck, you'll need it. Maybe you'll get a drunken bang on the DL from time to time, but if you're looking for an actual chic that will acknowledge you to her social circle, good luck. Certain swaths of this country, quality white girls are simply inaccessible to black men. I'm not whining about it by any means, people can date or not date whoever they want. But let's just call it for what it is. Game doesn't necessarily overcome everything.

[TheSlayer]

Excellent last two posts, HC. The point that I really want to emphasize and discuss is this:

(09-23-2013 10:46 AM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Before you wonder what role race plays, ask yourself if you've really made an effort to get with chicks of different races. Have you really put in the work?

I don't think race trolls actually put in the effort to approach the women they like. They may approach a few women here and there. Then they get rejected and say it must be because of my color. While racial preferences will always exist, race trolls have weak outer and inner game.

Even one of the best players on this board (Gio) has posted stories of him going out to malls and campuses and going 0/5 or 0/7 on bad days. But he is an approach machine and he also has a lot of success.

I seriously doubt any of these race trolls approach (just in pure numbers) say like a Gio or a Roosh.

There is an obvious pedestalization (sic) of white women by race trolls but they can't get women of their races even if they tried. Bad game (outer and inner) is bad game.

[OkStudies]

Quote:

Lol. Online dating? Still not buying it. Tons of white guys here complain about pipelining. Have you even bothered to investigate? Check the OKC thread. Every man reports getting shot down by 4s and 5s behaving like they're 8s and 9s.

Brah, I'm on OKC right now. I'm a good looking dude with a high value profile. Guess what my response rate is? 10%. There was a study done on this.

What are your online results?

I'm not saying white girls are some unattainable goal online, far from it. But let's try to stick as close to the facts of reality as we can.

[Hencredible Casanova]

(09-23-2013 03:04 PM)speakeasy Wrote:  

If you're a black dude in the south trying to game SEC sorority white girls, good luck, you'll need it.

This is just a horrid example my dude. SEC sorority chicks are pretty cliquish to begin with. You'll need luck if you're not in the corresponding fraternity bubble period. How much or how little compared to a similarly situated white guy? It really depends on the individual. Have you ever tried to take down an SEC sorority chick? Have you even talked to a single one? Let's not make assumptions.

I think it's counterproductive to think about race ad nauseum before having actually made any serious effort to get laid with the chick(s) of interest. I believe chicks have a sixth sense in a way in that they can detect insecurity if you're consciously contemplating yours. Don't see a chick through a racial lens if she passes the boner test. That in itself will affect the integrity of your interaction.

[Hencredible Casanova]

(09-23-2013 03:24 PM)OkStudies Wrote:  

Quote:

Lol. Online dating? Still not buying it. Tons of white guys here complain about pipelining. Have you even bothered to investigate? Check the OKC thread. Every man reports getting shot down by 4s and 5s behaving like they're 8s and 9s.

Brah, I'm on OKC right now. I'm a good looking dude with a high value profile. Guess what my response rate is? 10%. There was a study done on this.

What are your online results?

I'm not saying white girls are some unattainable goal online, far from it. But let's try to stick as close to the facts of reality as we can.

10% is about right. I've heard other guys say about the same. I don't pipeline domestically. If the stats in your link were truly reflective of reality, then why is it that according to the US Census that black male/white female interracial marriage couples are only second to asian female/white male?

[Therapsid]

(09-23-2013 03:24 PM)OkStudies Wrote:  

Brah, I'm on OKC right now. I'm a good looking dude with a high value profile. Guess what my response rate is? 10%. There was a study done on this.

What are your online results?

I'm not saying white girls are some unattainable goal online, far from it. But let's try to stick as close to the facts of reality as we can.

Stop doing online game. A lot of white girls will take one glance at your profile pic, see a black guy, or for that matter a guy of any other minority - and click delete. They won't even care what you say and many won't even read it.

This isn't that different than older guys in their 40's who can barely ever get any action with young girls on OkStupid but do much better with them in real life.

Maximize your potential by doing cold approach and social circle game.

Complaining about things beyond your control is useless.

[OkStudies]

(09-23-2013 03:40 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(09-23-2013 03:24 PM)OkStudies Wrote:  

Quote:

Lol. Online dating? Still not buying it. Tons of white guys here complain about pipelining. Have you even bothered to investigate? Check the OKC thread. Every man reports getting shot down by 4s and 5s behaving like they're 8s and 9s.

Brah, I'm on OKC right now. I'm a good looking dude with a high value profile. Guess what my response rate is? 10%. There was a study done on this.

What are your online results?

I'm not saying white girls are some unattainable goal online, far from it. But let's try to stick as close to the facts of reality as we can.

10% is about right. I've heard other guys say about the same. I don't pipeline domestically. If the stats in your link were truly reflective of reality, then why is it that according to the US Census that black male/white female interracial marriage couples are only second to asian female/white male?

Because they are meeting offline. Offline it's all good, I see plenty of brothers with fine white chicks all day, not disputing that. Black dudes probably do best with white girls excluding white guys. Just online there's little to go off of and chicks make all kinds of assumptions i.e. they probably stereotype the hell out of you.

[rudebwoy]

Onliine game is a complete waste of time, most of those girls you wouldn't talk to in a daytime setting.

[Hencredible Casanova]

(09-23-2013 03:50 PM)OkStudies Wrote:  

(09-23-2013 03:40 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(09-23-2013 03:24 PM)OkStudies Wrote:  

Quote:

Lol. Online dating? Still not buying it. Tons of white guys here complain about pipelining. Have you even bothered to investigate? Check the OKC thread. Every man reports getting shot down by 4s and 5s behaving like they're 8s and 9s.

Brah, I'm on OKC right now. I'm a good looking dude with a high value profile. Guess what my response rate is? 10%. There was a study done on this.

What are your online results?

I'm not saying white girls are some unattainable goal online, far from it. But let's try to stick as close to the facts of reality as we can.

10% is about right. I've heard other guys say about the same. I don't pipeline domestically. If the stats in your link were truly reflective of reality, then why is it that according to the US Census that black male/white female interracial marriage couples are only second to asian female/white male?

Because they are meeting offline. Offline it's all good, I see plenty of brothers with fine white chicks all day, not disputing that. Black dudes probably do best with white girls excluding white guys. Just online there's little to go off of and chicks make all kinds of assumptions i.e. they probably stereotype the hell out of you.

I would argue that online dating is not reflective of reality whatsoever. Why do you think it's so popular with grotesque and utterly atrocious beasts? It's because never before in their lives have they been solicited for sex at such a prolific rate, if at all. In the case of American women, online dating is largely for those who have failed at being desirable women in real life.

[elabayarde]

I've met Hencredible, and would venture to say by my estimation he would be damn near a subject matter expert on this topic. Someone said in another thread about OZ and black dudes. American blacks tend to carry around emotional baggage to places it doesnt apply. That was dead on.

I think this thread should actually get back on track. Its about GAMING!! Not a race/American cultural discussion, save that for the everything else thread.

Allow me to say somethings that has worked for me. Obviously being black and speaking other languages (fluently)help tremendously even with white girls. The girls who are obviously interested in that language have damn near spread eagle right there for me. I have one example where, I approach a group and was damn near snubbed. Then 2 mins later i was speaking to a older businessman type guy. He said he really need to learn spanish so we started speak in spanish. The group of girls and one gay cock blocker, came over and all gave me there numbers and proceeded to speaking there broken pathetic spanish to me and basically fighting to converse with me and TAKE pictures with me(however much sense this makes, some of you can probably shed some light on that)...it lead to a hook up, but no lay. But it also didnt take any game past speaking another language they were learning. Im not very big on white girls, so i didnt even return there phone calls later that night. I wasnt even the aggressor at that point. Thats why I stand by the learn more languages always thing.

[Hencredible Casanova]

(09-23-2013 03:44 PM)Therapsid Wrote:  

(09-23-2013 03:24 PM)OkStudies Wrote:  

Brah, I'm on OKC right now. I'm a good looking dude with a high value profile. Guess what my response rate is? 10%. There was a study done on this.

What are your online results?

I'm not saying white girls are some unattainable goal online, far from it. But let's try to stick as close to the facts of reality as we can.

Stop doing online game. A lot of white girls will take one glance at your profile pic, see a black guy, or for that matter a guy of any other minority - and click delete. They won't even care what you say and many won't even read it.

This isn't that different than older guys in their 40's who can barely ever get any action with young girls on OkStupid but do much better with them in real life.

Maximize your potential by doing cold approach and social circle game.

Complaining about things beyond your control is useless.

To be fair to the OP, who naturally prefers white chicks to black ones, it may be difficult to meet white girls if he doesn't already have a social circle with them. Without that, online dating is the most logical (easier) alternative.

As I've said, for black guys who didn't grow up with a white social circle or have the kind of background/interests that would enable them to easily acquire one, there exists a disadvantage should they seek to pursue white women. This is where race comes into play on a societal/cultural level. However, we also live in an individualist culture (and this forum is primarily made up of individual-minded guys), so this is an issue that can affect men regardless of race.

Hitting popular venues and building rapport with the bartenders/staff is one way you can start. Lock down those venues and the status display that will be evident when you approach white girls there is a big boost.

Day game, though not as easy, is another opportunity.

Not sure you guys saw this video interview with Roosh's buddy in Poland, but he is a Moroccan guy who moved there and initially struggled until he started improving himself in ways that are applicable to any guy in the US. Take note.

[TheSlayer]

(09-23-2013 04:11 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(09-23-2013 03:44 PM)Therapsid Wrote:  

(09-23-2013 03:24 PM)OkStudies Wrote:  

Brah, I'm on OKC right now. I'm a good looking dude with a high value profile. Guess what my response rate is? 10%. There was a study done on this.

What are your online results?

I'm not saying white girls are some unattainable goal online, far from it. But let's try to stick as close to the facts of reality as we can.

Stop doing online game. A lot of white girls will take one glance at your profile pic, see a black guy, or for that matter a guy of any other minority - and click delete. They won't even care what you say and many won't even read it.

This isn't that different than older guys in their 40's who can barely ever get any action with young girls on OkStupid but do much better with them in real life.

Maximize your potential by doing cold approach and social circle game.

Complaining about things beyond your control is useless.

To be fair to the OP, who naturally prefers white chicks to black ones, it may be difficult to meet white girls if he doesn't already have a social circle with them. Without that, online dating is the most logical (easier) alternative.

As I've said, for black guys who didn't grow up with a white social circle or have the kind of background/interests that would enable them to easily acquire one, there exists a disadvantage should they seek to pursue white women. This is where race comes into play on a societal/cultural level. However, we also live in an individualist culture (and this forum is primarily made up of individual-minded guys), so this is an issue that can affect men regardless of race.

Hitting popular venues and building rapport with the bartenders/staff is one way you can start. Lock down those venues and the status display that will be evident when you approach white girls there is a big boost.

Day game, though not as easy, is another opportunity.

Not sure you guys saw this video interview with Roosh's buddy in Poland, but he is a Moroccan guy who moved there and initially struggled until he started improving himself in ways that are applicable to any guy in the US. Take note.

Isn't cold approach the most logical alternative if he doesn't have a social circle with white women in it?

[Hencredible Casanova]

(09-23-2013 04:20 PM)TheSlayer Wrote:  

(09-23-2013 04:11 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(09-23-2013 03:44 PM)Therapsid Wrote:  

(09-23-2013 03:24 PM)OkStudies Wrote:  

Brah, I'm on OKC right now. I'm a good looking dude with a high value profile. Guess what my response rate is? 10%. There was a study done on this.

What are your online results?

I'm not saying white girls are some unattainable goal online, far from it. But let's try to stick as close to the facts of reality as we can.

Stop doing online game. A lot of white girls will take one glance at your profile pic, see a black guy, or for that matter a guy of any other minority - and click delete. They won't even care what you say and many won't even read it.

This isn't that different than older guys in their 40's who can barely ever get any action with young girls on OkStupid but do much better with them in real life.

Maximize your potential by doing cold approach and social circle game.

Complaining about things beyond your control is useless.

To be fair to the OP, who naturally prefers white chicks to black ones, it may be difficult to meet white girls if he doesn't already have a social circle with them. Without that, online dating is the most logical (easier) alternative.

As I've said, for black guys who didn't grow up with a white social circle or have the kind of background/interests that would enable them to easily acquire one, there exists a disadvantage should they seek to pursue white women. This is where race comes into play on a societal/cultural level. However, we also live in an individualist culture (and this forum is primarily made up of individual-minded guys), so this is an issue that can affect men regardless of race.

Hitting popular venues and building rapport with the bartenders/staff is one way you can start. Lock down those venues and the status display that will be evident when you approach white girls there is a big boost.

Day game, though not as easy, is another opportunity.

Not sure you guys saw this video interview with Roosh's buddy in Poland, but he is a Moroccan guy who moved there and initially struggled until he started improving himself in ways that are applicable to any guy in the US. Take note.

Isn't cold approach the most logical alternative if he doesn't have a social circle with white women in it?

By night game, yes. Sorry. I was referring to day (indirect) game. I think most people would find it far easier and convenient to just surf the web for putang as opposed to approaching in indirect settings.

[TheSlayer]

(09-23-2013 04:28 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

By night game, yes. Sorry. I was referring to day (indirect) game. I think most people would find it far easier and convenient to just surf the web for putang as opposed to approaching in indirect settings.

Very very true and those people have no right to complain about women (white or not) not paying attention to them.

[neanderthal]

From my experience as a dark skin Mulatto, gaming white chicks as a dark skin guy is not that difficult.

There are some instances where I have run into literally "racist" girls.
I don't let that affect my game. I keep moving because I know that there are some girls out there that like my vibe and look.
I am not going to lie and say that all I bang is 7's because that is not true.
In America, it's hard for a black guy to constantly be banging top tier if he doesn't have celebrity status.
It's true that most of the girls who are attracted to black guys are normally low quality.
Most of the time when a girl says to me "I only date black guys", I end up getting the bang. However, these girls are normally pump and dump quality.

I have Anglo fever I won't lie, but I know that if I game more black girls and Hispanic my notch count would be much higher.

This is MY advice on gaming white women as a black guy:

1- Know your target & demographics

Some white girls like thuggish looking black guys, some like carton banks looking black guys. It's really hard to know which one goes for which if you are out in the mall or the street. It's not hard though if you are in a venue. If you go to a reggae or hip hop club, and you see a white girl more than likely she is the "I only date black guys" girl. It's not easy to find a good looking white girl in these clubs. Only the occasional fatty frequents these clubs and to make matters worse a white girl, even if she is a 5, in a reggae/hip hop club is an 8 at the moment. About 90 percent of the black guys I see with a white girl, the girl is a 5 or a 6 at best.

Now let's say you went to a higher end club where they will play songs you hear on Z100, your chances of picking up a 6 are very high if you dress the part. You can't go into a "white club" (any place where 70% or more are white) rocking your baggy jeans. It probably won't turn out that great for you. Most white girls that are in Category 2, like well dress black guys. I hate it when some of the homies show up at my regular spot looking like they about to gang bang and not the sexual type. It creates a bad image, more than likely the type of girl that likes that style won't be in that type of club anyways. White girls that exclusively like black guys that are above a 5 are in high demand. These girls don't even need to go out at night. They just get online or move to a black neighborhood and they have all the dick they would ever need.

If you want to maximize your "anglo" bangs you need to dress sharp and have a positive vibe. Also look for the "here for college" girls.

Side note--I love seeing the faces on the white racist fucks when I am making out on the dance floor with a hot snow bunny.

2-You want roses go to a rose garden not the flower shop

This rule is key. I hear a lot of guys saying that they can't seem to bang a certain type of chick but have success with other type of chicks. Well the main reason probably is because your not in an area where there is enough to go around. If you want white, feminine, 7 and up women then from what I hear you need to go to Eastern Europe. If you are in America and you want white women then you have to game in a area where the majority is white. I currently live in a white area of New York (Nassau). It's not a bad place to game if your game is tight but weak game here is not going to get you any lays. Most of the women here have been raised traditionally and are not going to bring home a dark skin guy considering here parents are Italian ex-mobsters or Orthodox Jewish.


3- Know what you bring to the table

The cold hard truth is that most girls will only use a black guy for their "presumed" sexual ability and vibe. I really don't care if my bitches only like having a good time because that's what I am all about. I know that the moment I show weakness these chicks will leave me like Heidi Klum.
There are a lot of older white women into black guys because they know that the sex has a higher chance of being much better but most of these women have no intentions on marrying such guys. The same applies for the younger girls. These girls are young and want to explore. I use that to my advantage when gaming. I create the image of the cool black guy that is not looking for nothing serious.

4- Don't be too aggressive and smile

Most of the white girls worth gaming don't have much experience when it comes to being approached by black guys. If you come on too strong you will scare the cat away. It's best to come off as playful and friendly. As mentioned before, your frame is already intimidating enough. If a girl thinks you are going to beat her up if she doesn't want to give it up when you are alone, more than likely she won't go home with you.

I used to forget to smile sometimes (still do), this is not good because I already have strong facial attributes and not smiling makes me look like I am angry. No one wants to approach an angry person. Since I ALWAYS go out alone, I talk to everyone and make jokes from time to time so that way girls around me can see that I am smiling and people around me too.

[Easy E]

(09-23-2013 02:48 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

Again, the numbers don't lie. For even in interracial marriages, the white female/black male combo is only second to the asian female/white male combo. I believe it. I've winged with plenty of white guys and have seen the thirst in asian chicks when my white friends approach. White guys have a monopoly on that all day.

But I wouldn't say in pure pick up settings they have an advantage with white chicks by default. American white girls are mainly the reason a lot of us are tired of American girls in general!

Not true.

The second and third most common interracial marriage pairings are white male/hispanic female and hispanic male/white female (Hispanics are counted in the "other category" since hispanic is not considered a well defined race):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interracial...statistics

[OkStudies]

^ I was aware of this. Hispanics are not a race. And many of them are actually white, some are black. So I stand by my original claim for interracial marriages.

How many short, native-looking hispanics do you see with attractive white girls (or just white girls period)? I'd be willing to bet money most of those "interracial" marriages are between white hispanics (i.e. puerto ricans, cubans, white mexicans etc) and white anglos.

[Samseau]

More stats on inter-racial dating by region:

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2010/06/0...riage-map/

Stats by the numbers:



http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2010/06/0...ing-out/2/

Less than two percent of marriages are between a Black Man and White Woman, which is what I was saying earlier in this thread. If you're looking to get married to a White woman as a Black man, it's a MUCH more difficult than merely banging a White girl.

[Therapsid]

(09-23-2013 05:45 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Less than two percent of marriages are between a Black Man and White Woman, which is what I was saying earlier in this thread. If you're looking to get married to a White woman as a Black man, it's a MUCH more difficult than merely banging a White girl.

Is it? This chart says nothing about the breakdown of inter-racial sex.

It could well be that white girls sleeping with black guys is every bit or almost as much a niche affair. So, we don't really know if that's *much* more difficult, slightly more difficult, or the same.

Going out to clubs skews our perception of what most attractive girls normally do.

[Samseau]

(09-23-2013 05:53 PM)Therapsid Wrote:  

(09-23-2013 05:45 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Less than two percent of marriages are between a Black Man and White Woman, which is what I was saying earlier in this thread. If you're looking to get married to a White woman as a Black man, it's a MUCH more difficult than merely banging a White girl.

Is it? This chart says nothing about the breakdown of inter-racial sex.

It could well be that white girls sleeping with black guys is every bit or almost as much a niche affair. So, we don't really know if that's *much* more difficult, slightly more difficult, or the same.

Going out to clubs skews our perception of what most attractive girls normally do.

It logically follows from what I already know about women:

- It's easier for any man to bang a woman than it is to make her his girlfriend
- It's easier for any man to make a woman his girlfriend than it is to marry her
- Marriage sucks

See?

[Easy E]

(09-23-2013 05:43 PM)OkStudies Wrote:  

^ I was aware of this. Hispanics are not a race. And many of them are actually white, some are black. So I stand by my original claim for interracial marriages.

How many short, native-looking hispanics do you see with attractive white girls (or just white girls period)? I'd be willing to bet money most of those "interracial" marriages are between white hispanics (i.e. puerto ricans, cubans, white mexicans etc) and white anglos.

Not all hispanics are short and native looking. Even among Mexicans (the largest hispanic group in this country by far), there is a variety of colors and admixtures. That being said, I think we are getting sidetracked. Most dudes that want to date interracially don't want to get married, they just want a get some white pussy.

I live in California (LA area specifically), and I have met black dudes that were dating good looking white chicks. They tended to be in very good shape, dressed hip and had some cash. I think that if you want to date white chicks exclusively, then you need to approach it like anything else. Get in shape, dress well and get your finances in order. Other than that, there really isn't much else you can do, so don't let negative thoughts creep into your head.

[speakeasy]

(09-23-2013 05:53 PM)Therapsid Wrote:  

(09-23-2013 05:45 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

Less than two percent of marriages are between a Black Man and White Woman, which is what I was saying earlier in this thread. If you're looking to get married to a White woman as a Black man, it's a MUCH more difficult than merely banging a White girl.

Is it? This chart says nothing about the breakdown of inter-racial sex.

It could well be that white girls sleeping with black guys is every bit or almost as much a niche affair. So, we don't really know if that's *much* more difficult, slightly more difficult, or the same.

Going out to clubs skews our perception of what most attractive girls normally do.

Keep in mind, some married white women who are married to white men will fuck around on the side with black dudes. I had quite a MILF that was coming on to me a few years back. Could've smashed, but figured it's a bad idea because we have too many friends in common and there was too much risk. Hell, I've even met her husband. I just decided to play it nice guy. Thing is, if you just looked at her, you'd have no clue that she fetishes black guys(which I heard from her friends I know). She told me once that her family back in the midwest is pretty racist, so I guess that kept her "in line" from getting with black guys. She looks like a typical sweet, blonde mid-western wife. At a party though I did sneak her away and make out for a few minutes, but left it at that. She was moaning like she wanted some black dick really bad. But like I said, too much risk to go down that path given how many common friends we have.

I think I remember reading that Virgil Kent's specialty is smashing married white women in the DC area.

[Sumanguru]

(09-22-2013 05:12 PM)OkStudies Wrote:  

^ Also, the best way to game them is via face to face interaction in either night game or social circle game. Online is 10x tougher if your black for reasons I am not entirely sure of, but stereotypes I'm sure play a big factor.

Yeah, I have much better luck in person than online (unless they're a white fatty or we have something really esoteric in common)..

Also good breakdown in the first post on the types of white women. Dealing with the wall chicks is such a waste of time that I don't bother anymore. The first kind that are really into black dudes can be an easy lay but they're rarely hot. (I HATE the fact that most of the chicks who are into black guys are almost always ug and/or land whales, but its true). I aim for the middle ground.

[PhilE]

(09-22-2013 06:57 PM)YaManBT Wrote:  

Kudos to the OP. I think I made a very similar breakdown on another forum site.

I love the #2 category white girls. My favorite bangs have been category 2 white girls. They tend to be the highly educated, the "free-spirited", or the worldly traveler types. As you said, brothers with class do well with this group. Also, look up the 18 victim types from The Art of Seduction. I believe number 8 on that list is the "Exotic Fetishist". It's not quite as dirty as it sounds, but if you read the description that Greene gives of that group, you'll know the type of chick that I do the best with.

The #1 category in the op are generally ones to avoid, because they tend to be either the fatties or the "ghetto" white girls. I'm not gonna lie, I have been guilty of taking an easy fatty from this category in the midst of a drought.

The #3 category types tend to be the type I don't want anyway. When I think of category 3, I think of the homegrown Northeast Philly or South Philly white girls here where I live. They are all the same. They all come from a close Irish or Italian family that thinks they're better than Black people, despite the fact that they're white trash. They all can be found wearing Eagles, Flyers, and Phillies paraphernalia while pretending to be sports fanatics. They don't look like true sports fans so much as they look like annoying cunts. They can all be found on St. Patrick's Day wearing green shit that lights up, and maybe a shamrock painted on their faces. They all talk with an accent that is unbearable (what the fuck is "wooder"?). They all have pack-a-day voices, whether they actually smoke or not.

I always go for fellow city transplants. Seriously, I tend to kill amongst white girls who recently moved here for grad school or some shit like that. Those transplants seem to fall into category 2 of the original post. If she moved out here all by herself, post college, she is probably not extremely attached to mommy and daddy.

Also, I guess white girls' openness has something to do with where they're from + their family relationships. For example, I am from a town of about 85,000 in Connecticut. It is fairly diverse in my hometown, and everyone goes to school together. Growing up, people dated across racial lines fairly often, and it wasn't a big deal. On the other hand, a city like Philly has a long history of racial tension. Combine that with the types of families I described earlier, and their is not much openness among the girls from here.

What I have found with these transplants to Philly is that many of them came from some bumblefuck town in PA, which was not Black-friendly. They had rocky relationships with their fathers, and rebelled against the culture where they're from. They move to the big city, and pretty much live the polar opposite life of their family members back home. I've banged two chicks with this exact same life story.

On another note, if/when I come back to the States from my planned move to Japan, I wanna live on the West Coast. I want to continue testing this theory of white girls' openness being based on where they're from.

You just made my point to the T!!!!! I live in Philly so now you see where I get my percentages from LOL!!!!

Thats hilarious about them wearing the Philly gear and not knowing shit about sports....lol

And I noticed something else about Philly white girls, that they all have an interest in rap music, but only date white guys with an edge to them. Not quite wiggers, but definitely not suburban white guy either, its a mixture of a wigger + frat/rock/guido.
And that tad bit of "wigger" in Philly white boys have them liking women with more curves.....so black men have created an enviornment for women who would normally be considered "fat" or at least "chubby" are considered desirable.

So now I see white girls are TROLLING black guys...i know it sounds funny, but its true. They wear tights with nothing covering their bottoms, are obviously considered thick, wear Jordans and other "urban inspired" gear but wouldn't touch a black guy with a 10ft pole. And I remember a time when white girls weren't interested in talking to black men they wouldn't wear clothing that attracts them. And they wouldn't stay at a weight where MORE black men are likely to talk to you than white men.

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(09-23-2013 04:07 PM)elabayarde Wrote:  

I've met Hencredible, and would venture to say by my estimation he would be damn near a subject matter expert on this topic. Someone said in another thread about OZ and black dudes. American blacks tend to carry around emotional baggage to places it doesnt apply. That was dead on.

I think this thread should actually get back on track. Its about GAMING!! Not a race/American cultural discussion, save that for the everything else thread.

Allow me to say somethings that has worked for me. Obviously being black and speaking other languages (fluently)help tremendously even with white girls. The girls who are obviously interested in that language have damn near spread eagle right there for me. I have one example where, I approach a group and was damn near snubbed. Then 2 mins later i was speaking to a older businessman type guy. He said he really need to learn spanish so we started speak in spanish. The group of girls and one gay cock blocker, came over and all gave me there numbers and proceeded to speaking there broken pathetic spanish to me and basically fighting to converse with me and TAKE pictures with me(however much sense this makes, some of you can probably shed some light on that)...it lead to a hook up, but no lay. But it also didnt take any game past speaking another language they were learning. Im not very big on white girls, so i didnt even return there phone calls later that night. I wasnt even the aggressor at that point. Thats why I stand by the learn more languages always thing.

Your example is basically how other groups see black men, it doesn't matter that we all come from different backgrounds. The media does a great job of stereotyping black men and people cannot see outside the box.

Speaking a different language or showing a reasonable amount of intelligence blows some people away, I myself have been told I speak well. I guess they did not expect that.