[JayMillz]

Anti-Redskins ad will air at halftime of Game 3 of NBA finals between Heat and Spurs

The anti-Redskins camp is taking its fight to primetime — premiering an ad Tuesday night during the NBA finals.
At halftime of Game 3 between the Spurs and Heat, the National Congress of Native Americans' sixty second ad will run in seven major cities — including New York, Los Angeles and of course, Washington.

The ad, which was paid for by California's Yocha Dehe Wintun Nation, features traits that Native Americans identify with — indomitable, unyielding, patriot and survivor — and ends on a powerful note.

"Native Americans call themselves many things, the one thing they don't…" the narrator says before showing the helmet of Washington's controversial squad


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/footba...z34GHpAnfJ

[runsonmagic]

I still like Roosh's accidental sports name - the New York Cougars.

We should give all sports teams controversial mascots.

I'd totally cheer for the San Francisco Faggots.

[Sidney Crosby]

I think people need to harden up, if you don't like the name don't support the team.

[Lord_Perseus]

If I was an Indian i'd probably hate it but the jackbooted PC thugs have been some gawdamn obnoxious over what is in the grand scheme of thing trivial bullshit that I want Dan Snyder to give 2 fingers & fight like hell to keep the name to spite these pricks

[Blackwell]

Huge development with the Patent Office cancelling the Redskins trademark. If this goes through anybody can legally start using their logo.

I don't know how much longer they can continue to fight this. It's a near certainty that they change if this thing keeps it's current trend, there is no way they can run the business without the names and logos trademarked right?

[Menace]

(06-18-2014 09:22 AM)Blackwell Wrote:  

Huge development with the Patent Office cancelling the Redskins trademark. If this goes through anybody can legally start using their logo.

I don't know how much longer they can continue to fight this. It's a near certainty that they change if this thing keeps it's current trend, there is no way they can run the business without the names and logos trademarked right?

While it is a big victory, it's not so open and shut. It pertains only to registration of the mark, not the use of the mark (which is expressly distinguished in the opinion). From the USPTO website:

Quote:

Federal registration is not required to establish rights in a trademark. Common law rights arise from actual use of a mark and may allow the common law user to successfully challenge a registration or application.

Not sure whether this means that they could still go after someone who decides to start printing Redskins jerseys. I assume they will also try to stay the ruling and appeal.

[JayMillz]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-patent-...38307.html

US Patent Office Rules Redskins Name Is Offensive, Cancels Trademarks

The US Patents and Trademarks Office cancelled the federal trademarks for the Washington Redskins after ruling that the name was "disparaging to Native Americans."

Five Native Americans petitioned the office to cancel six trademarks filed between 1967 and 1990. Under federal law, trademarks cannot be " may disparage persons or bring them into contempt or disrepute" cannot be registered.

The office said in a ruling:

"We decide, based on the evidence properly before us, that these registrations must be cancelled because they were disparaging to Native Americans at the respective times they were registered, in violation of Section 2(a) of the Trademark Act of 1946, 15 U.S.C. § 1052(a)."

[scorpion]

The U.S. government has become a complete joke. We're officially a banana republic at this point. Every branch of the government has become a political weapon, including the IRS and now even the fucking patent office. What's next, will the USPS start refusing to deliver mail to those on the government shitlist? Will thoughtcrime soon get you put on a registry like sex offenders, to prevent people who object to this insanity from finding jobs and housing? Will the government shut off public utilities to individuals and organizations which they deem objectionable?

It's just unbelievable how quickly this all happened. The rule of law has been entirely destroyed in this country in less than twenty years. The scariest part is that things are only going to get worse in the foreseeable future. There's a lot of territory between banana republic and Soviet-style dictatorship/overt police state, which is where we're headed, make no mistake.

I believe that within a decade freedom of speech and anonymous speech will no longer exist on the internet (or anywhere else, for that matter). Websites will require a license from the government which can be revoked at any time for any reason. Any type of community software (blogs, forums, etc...) will require the use of standardized public logins tied to real names, like Facebook or Google. Attempts to form unapproved or anonymous internet communities will be viewed by the government as forming terrorist communications networks, and will be punished accordingly.

If this sounds impossible, ask yourself if, in the year 2000, you ever thought in your wildest dreams the country would look like it does now, with all the political insanity. Now just imagine what another fifteen years of this Marxist cultural destruction will accomplish.

They are coming for us.

[runsonmagic]

Didn't see this thread and almost made a new one to break this news:

In Landmark Decision, U.S. Patent Office Cancels Trademark For Redskins Football Team

Quote:

The United States Patent and Trademark Office has canceled six federal trademark registrations for the name of the Washington Redskins, ruling that the name is “disparaging to Native Americans” and thus cannot be trademarked under federal law that prohibits the protection of offensive or disparaging language.

So... you can't trademark offensive names? I can think of a few groups whose names I'd axe first, but we all know this is about politics, not legal fairness.

For the record, the team could keep using the name - but so could anyone else:

Quote:

Losing the trademark would not force the team to change its name, but it would allow anyone who wanted to use “Redskins” on merchandise or through other means to do so, which could cost the team — and, because of the NFL’s revenue-sharing model, other NFL teams — “every imaginable loss you can think of,” as the team’s lawyers argued in the original case. For that reason, the trademark has long been thought of by opponents of the team’s name as the easiest avenue to changing it.

Political strategy at the end of the quote. This was a planned hit.

[kosko]

The NFL and the team will appeal, and appeal, and appeal. They have a war chest of litigation money and lawyers on stand by. If needed they can drag out these things and starve dry their opposition, or settle.

If they have to though I would just call then the "Reds" keep the colors, use the spear alternate helmet and logo. Simple.

But this will likely just show that corporate America runs the show and always has run the show. NFL isn't going to ditch a wealthy and established brand. I don't view this as some leftist attack. The corporate class always wins regardless if they are wanting to peddle gay propaganda or use a Indian as a logo, they can do as they wish.

[LaserBear]

(06-10-2014 01:48 PM)runsonmagic Wrote:  

I still like Roosh's accidental sports name - the New York Cougars.

We should give all sports teams controversial mascots.

I'd totally cheer for the San Francisco Faggots.

The Dallas Obese

The St Louis Muggers

The Detroit Poverty
Or
The Detroit Bailouts

The Denver's Nugs (this one needs to happen. Do you think of gold or weed in colorado?)

[monster]

Did you see this: the government revoked the Redskin's trademarks!

Quote:

Unprecedented pressure on the Washington NFL team to change its name reached a crescendo today when the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board canceled six federal trademark registrations owned by the team, ruling that the term "Redskins" was disparaging to "a substantial composite" of American Indians when the marks were granted between 1967 and 1990.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl.../10735053/

I'm amazed that everyday the government's power grows stronger and stronger at what they can do, who they can punish, and how they can get their way.

[Fighting888]

(09-13-2013 07:43 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

If no outrage can be found, one can be constructed.

I would bet that the complainers don't even know one person of Native American descent.

The whole issue is a weapon of mass distraction. It's designed to distract the public from real issues - offshoring of our manufacturing base, insourcing of massive numbers of H1B and other "guestworkers", the dissolution of our country through massive legal and illegal immigration, the longterm fall in wages, the hijacking of our national security policy by foreign interests, unsustainable deficit spending, erosion of civil liberties and freedom, the cancerous growth of our federal government, Wall Street financialization, private-public collusion, etc.

Why argue about how the top 0.1 percent are plundering the country when we can debate real issues of importance, such as gay marriage and the offensiveness of the Washington Redskins?

[Fighting888]

(06-18-2014 12:38 PM)monster Wrote:  

Did you see this: the government revoked the Redskin's trademarks!

Quote:

Unprecedented pressure on the Washington NFL team to change its name reached a crescendo today when the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board canceled six federal trademark registrations owned by the team, ruling that the term "Redskins" was disparaging to "a substantial composite" of American Indians when the marks were granted between 1967 and 1990.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl.../10735053/

I'm amazed that everyday the government's power grows stronger and stronger at what they can do, who they can punish, and how they can get their way.

It's surprising what the public tolerates.

Or maybe not.

[All or Nothing]

(06-18-2014 11:25 AM)kosko Wrote:  

But this will likely just show that corporate America runs the show and always has run the show. NFL isn't going to ditch a wealthy and established brand. I don't view this as some leftist attack. The corporate class always wins regardless if they are wanting to peddle gay propaganda or use a Indian as a logo, they can do as they wish.

Good. I like corporate America more than I like Hollywood, which is who is trying to peddle these values and force corporate America to get in line with what they want.

[Truth Teller]

(06-18-2014 12:38 PM)monster Wrote:  

Did you see this: the government revoked the Redskin's trademarks!

Quote:

Unprecedented pressure on the Washington NFL team to change its name reached a crescendo today when the Trademark Trial and Appeal Board canceled six federal trademark registrations owned by the team, ruling that the term "Redskins" was disparaging to "a substantial composite" of American Indians when the marks were granted between 1967 and 1990.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl.../10735053/

I'm amazed that everyday the government's power grows stronger and stronger at what they can do, who they can punish, and how they can get their way.

Believe it or not, this isn't horribly important. It's happened before, and as long as the appeals process continues, the Redskins have the trademark.

[kosko]

(06-18-2014 09:12 PM)All or Nothing Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 11:25 AM)kosko Wrote:  

But this will likely just show that corporate America runs the show and always has run the show. NFL isn't going to ditch a wealthy and established brand. I don't view this as some leftist attack. The corporate class always wins regardless if they are wanting to peddle gay propaganda or use a Indian as a logo, they can do as they wish.

Good. I like corporate America more than I like Hollywood, which is who is trying to peddle these values and force corporate America to get in line with what they want.

Different sides, same coin.

[Quintus Curtius]

The times, they are a-changin', to be sure.

A recent ruling on the Washington Redskins' trademark shows that public opinion is slowly changing:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/footba...-1.1834245

I saw an article today that might deserve its own thread. It was about how the federal government is taking the first steps towards recognizing a native Hawaiian government:

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/20...ition.html

Most people in the US have no idea that the Kingdom of Hawaii existed until 1893, when the monarchy was overthrown by a group of businessmen, most of them Americans.

It was an independent republic from 1894 until 1898, when it was annexed by the United States as a territory before becoming a state in 1959.

Something to think about.

[Fighting888]

Rename the team the "Washington Kleptocrats."

It'd more accurately represent the citizens of that fine city.

[heavy]

This...

(06-18-2014 09:40 AM)JayMillz Wrote:  

The US Patents and Trademarks Office cancelled the federal trademarks for the Washington Redskins after ruling that the name was "disparaging to Native Americans."

...in violation of Section 2(a) of the Trademark Act of 1946, 15 U.S.C. § 1052(a)."

It's an interesting law, especially for being a 1946 law (pre-1960s):
"No trademark by which the goods of the applicant may be distinguished from the goods of others shall be refused registration on the principal register on account of its nature unless it--"
"(a) Consists of...matter which may disparage or falsely suggest a connection with persons, living or dead, institutions, beliefs, or national symbols, or bring them into contempt, or disrepute"

I couldn't care less if they change the name. My only question would be if there is a history of Trademarks being issued for years, then "refused", especially with this clause at the bottom of the law:
"Except as expressly excluded in subsections (a), (b), ©, (d), (e)(3), and (e)(5) of this section, nothing herein shall prevent the registration of a mark used by the applicant which has become distinctive of the applicant's goods in commerce."

Source: http://www.bitlaw.com/source/15usc/1052.html

[runsonmagic]

Funny side note:

Beyond That Washington Team: A History of Offensive Trademarks
http://blogs.wsj.com/corporate-intellige...rademarks/

Quote:

Back in 1978, a group of women successfully opposed the trademarked slogan of a chicken restaurant: “A breast in the mouth is better than a leg in the hand.”

Also, how values change:

Quote:

Even before the current Lanham Act. rules were in play, trademarks were being rejected on the grounds that they could offend. In 1938, the Court of Customs and Patent Appeals supported the decision to deny the Riverbank Canning Co.’s application to trademark a “Madonna” brand of wines. “The use of the word, for such purpose, is scandalous,” according to the 1905 Trade-Mark Act, it ruled. “There can be no doubt that in the United States, and among all English-speaking peoples, the word ‘Madonna’ is generally understood to refer to the Virgin Mary.”

And now, in modern times:

Quote:

And the ruling today comes just a month after a federal appeals court rejected an attempt to trademark “STOP THE ISLAMISATION OF AMERICA,” supporting the USPTO’s decision that the mark “signals that Islamization is undesirable and is something that must be brought to an end in America.”

[Libertas]

I don't give a shit about the misnamed sport known as football here in the US, but this is troubling.

The IP office is now being used as a weapon to enforce political correctness. Under the guise of denying that the "disparaging name" can be trademarked, it is essentially setting a precedent that anything that hurts somebody's feelings can't be protected by the rule of law. How much longer until other, more serious stealth attacks on the First Amendment come out of the shadows?

Scorpion is right. None of this would have even been conceivable in the year 2000. Imagine how much worse it's going to get if these trends continue?

[Quintus Curtius]

I think it's important to put this type of thing in context.

If anything, it highlights the banality of the social and political discourse in the US today. Instead of focusing on real problems that affect people's daily lives, the focus is now entirely on "symbolic" and "feel good" or "trigger" issues.

The fact that anyone would really care what a football team names itself, and view that as more important than solving real problems, tells me that people feel powerless.

They feel powerless to do anything to solve real issues, so they focus on bullshit issues. The media feeds the frenzy because it's part of the system of control here, to keep people distracted from the fact that their standard of living is declining, their education is substandard, and their cost of living is going up.

[Dusty]

(06-19-2014 01:13 PM)Quintus Curtius Wrote:  

The fact that anyone would really care what a football team names itself, and view that as more important than solving real problems, tells me that people feel powerless.

I don't think most native Americans care about the name Redskins.

It's white liberals, as always, who are ginning up the "outrage."

Quote:

In the only recent poll to ask native people about the subject, 90 percent of respondents did not consider the term offensive.

[Dusty]

(06-19-2014 11:32 AM)Fighting888 Wrote:  

Rename the team the "Washington Kleptocrats."

It'd more accurately represent the citizens of that fine city.

The Washington Stealers