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TIME Magazine Cover Article about rape hysteria on college campuses
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TIME Magazine Cover Article about rape hysteria on college campuses

This article: was on the May 26th cover of Time Magazine and provides a fascinating look at what society is calling a rape crisis in American universities.

I'm sharing this because it provides a striking glimpse into our society, where rape has a very muddled definition and how a "news" story can serve up "facts" and "statistics" to manipulate and scare the public.

Most of the time it points a damning finger at men, but fortunately there are some truthful tidbits throughout as well as an excellent editorial following the article.

Here we go.

The article centers on the University of Montana, which has had a special investigator decree it as a very unsafe place for women. "Recent research shows that 1 in 5 women is the victim of an attempted or completed sexual assault during college."

Stop and look at that statement. I am 100% against rape, but I think that this statistic is blown out of proportion by the "attempted" part of the sentence. If at a party, a guy and a girl have a few drinks and kiss, then the man touches a girl sexually, it can be considered "attempted rape." No one stops to "ask" the girl if he can touch her breast. If she says, no, a man with game will gauge how the woman responded and act accordingly. If she shrieked "no" that's a bad sign and it's best to eject from the situation. However if she moans with pleasure, maybe even smiles a bit, that's a sign that she's into it and the best move is to pull back, chat or kiss lightly, and go for it again to see what happens. We've all been in this situation and a true player can tell the difference.

The next part of the article starts ramp up the fear: "'If you knew your son had a 20% chance of being held up at gunpoint, you'd think twice before dropping your kids off,' says Vice President Joe Biden."

Now we have an overblown statement that just comes off as fear-inducing to the masses. The general theme of this article, like most news articles, is about striking fear into the hearts of America because 1) It sells more magazines and 2) It could help make this article go viral and thus boost magazine sales. Thanks Time.

There are some interesting points, such as how "The FBI now defines rape as 'penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or annus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.'"

Basically, if you touch a girl's boob, and you didn't ask beforehand, this can be considered rape. The current definition of rape is grossly vague and could have very harsh consequences to men who aren't rapists, but get accused of it anyway. Rape, to me, refers to violent sexual threats against a woman's will or from some jackass who relies on heavy drugs and intoxication to completely reduce a woman's mind to that of a someone in a coma.

There have been awful cases of rape, such as one the article points out where a woman was so intoxicated, she woke up to her pants down and mor e or less had blacked out after a running back for the football team had taken advantage of her. That guy is serving a 10-year sentence.

The article also points to something called the "Frank" video which is a re-enactment of a real conversation between a U of Mass researcher and an actual male student. The student discusses the fraternity scene, drinking, and praying on freshman women including how a college man would get a young girl drunk then, "describe removing the woman's clothes She tries pushing him off; he pushes her back down and uses his arm across her chest o pin her down while having intercourse."

In this case, where a girl is physically pushing a man away, during sex, seems to be an actual case of rape. If a man forces a girl down during the entirety of sex in a fraternity environment, it could be drunken rape. The one counterpoint could be if the dude flipped over, and let go of her, and she continued the sexual act, say by riding him. Any girl who did want the sexual act to continue would jump at the chance to leave in that type of situation.

Small moments from the article have some semblance of truth such as how "if you are like the vast majority of college men who do not rape, you've now heard for the 17th time, Don't be a rapist." Again, the truth is that a small percentile, are rapists and have been charged and/or convicted of MULTIPLE times of rape. This isn't a one-time thing, and that's key.
also parents "fear that zealous colleges will side with alleged victims in murky circumstances."

Now we get a sliver of truth as the "murky circumstances" could be anything from touching a boob to penetration.

Following the article is a fantastic editorial from Yale Law School professor Jed Rubenfeld called "Redefining Rape"

Here Rubenfeld states how absurd the current definition of rape is, as he reflects how "(The current definition) sounds great until you think about it. If two Yale students are kissing and one of them touches the other sexually, that person has apparently committed sexual assault even if they've done it before. Other colleges tell students that sex with someone intoxicated is always assault."

The absurdity of the current definition of rape is well stated and Rubenfled continues that, "RAINN, the nation's largest anti-sexual-violence organization, recently cited evidence suggesting that over 90% of college rapes are committed by just 3% of college men who are repeat offenders."

This was a breath of fresh air in what has been a lot of anti-men chat and anti-men-enjoying-sexual-conquests biases. A small percent of college men are doing the harm, and should be justly prosecuted, not the bullshit "20%" that Biden uses to scare the American public.

Another key aspect Rubenfeld brings up is "Rape complaints should be heard by independent, trained professionals instead of school administrators."

Big yes to this, as administrators will have their own agenda and are very biased. Have a trained third party, who has a realistic understanding of male/female dynamics should be in charge of rape allegations.

Overall, these articles provide an interesting glimpse into the American psyche and our modern culture. The basic viewpoint is fairly anti-male, and could result in young men becoming afraid of pursuing women sexually because of the very serious consequences that could occur.

I hope these men can see past the bullshit, learn game and take charge of their inner alpha male...who rightfully wants to enjoy women, intimacy, lust and sex.

"Desserts are like mistresses. They are bad for you. So if you are having one, you might as well have two." - Alain Ducasse
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TIME Magazine Cover Article about rape hysteria on college campuses

Quote: (05-28-2014 12:12 AM)TheChef Wrote:  

"Recent research shows that 1 in 5 women is the victim of an attempted or completed sexual assault during college."
Either this is such complete and utter bullshit and demonstrates how well one can mislead with statistics, cherry-picked 'research' and carefully selected phrases OR the felony rate at America's universities is at unprecedented levels that make the worst inner cities look like gated communities by comparison.

If parents thought it was the latter, would anyone be sending their daughter off to college?
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TIME Magazine Cover Article about rape hysteria on college campuses

Quote: (05-28-2014 12:12 AM)TheChef Wrote:  

"Recent research shows that 1 in 5 women is the victim of an attempted or completed sexual assault during college."

Frankly, I didn't need to read any further.
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TIME Magazine Cover Article about rape hysteria on college campuses

I believe there is a Culture of Regret on college campuses. Not a Culture of Rape.
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TIME Magazine Cover Article about rape hysteria on college campuses

Quote: (05-28-2014 12:23 AM)HeyPete Wrote:  

I believe there is a Culture of Regret on college campuses. Not a Culture of Rape.

Truth! Actually at first I thought you meant "regret" as in people who spent too much time studying and not enough time gaming...because college is one of the best times to pickup girls.

Then I figured out what you probably meant...[Image: idea.gif]

So it can be taken two ways

"Desserts are like mistresses. They are bad for you. So if you are having one, you might as well have two." - Alain Ducasse
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TIME Magazine Cover Article about rape hysteria on college campuses

Jed Rubenfeld sounds like he knows his stuff. Right now it seems like if a guy and a girl are making out at a party, and the guy tries to touch boob, and the girl says no, EVEN IF THEY CONTINUE TO MAKE OUT, he could later be charged with rape. I think the definition of rape that the FBI has is actually pretty on point. If someone sticks a dick (or vagina [Image: undecided.gif]) into the pink or the stink without consent, that's rape. Or if someone sticks their dick or vagina into someone else's mouth without consent, that's also rape. That sounds like a reasonable definition to me.

But there should be levels as to what constitutes rape vs. normal sexual behavior.

For example if two people are sitting next to eachother flirting, and someone rests their hand on the other persons leg, that in no way or form should be a sexual crime of any sort.

But if in the same scenario someone puts their finger into a butthole and the person yells "no no no no no no no" and leaves, that should be considered sexual assault.

So you should be able to jump one level without any sort of consent.

Levels are as follows: Talking>Mild Kino/Kissing>Making out> Caressing>Fingering>Penetration

If you move up one level, the person must say no.

Actually maybe it would be better and more fair to everyone if it was just assumed yes until the girl says no and physically leaves. You can assume you are in the right until the girl actually leaves.

Damn this is such a murky area that really has no good solution. Eventually they are just going to make all pre-marital sex illegal unless here is a formally drawn-up contract signed and notarized with multiple witnesses, with everything (including the actual act itself) videotaped and streamed live into the GARB's offices (the soon to be created Government Against Rape Bureau).

Just make sure you get the girl to text you after sex and everything should be fine.

Founding Member of TEAM DOUBLE WRAPPED CONDOMS
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TIME Magazine Cover Article about rape hysteria on college campuses

Quote: (05-28-2014 01:03 AM)TheChef Wrote:  

Quote: (05-28-2014 12:23 AM)HeyPete Wrote:  

I believe there is a Culture of Regret on college campuses. Not a Culture of Rape.

Truth! Actually at first I thought you meant "regret" as in people who spent too much time studying and not enough time gaming...because college is one of the best times to pickup girls.

Then I figured out what you probably meant...[Image: idea.gif]

So it can be taken two ways

I didn't think of it that way. So, actually I would have regret, too.

What I did mean was bitches regretting their sexual escapades the next day and calling the encounter rape.
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TIME Magazine Cover Article about rape hysteria on college campuses

Quote: (05-28-2014 01:04 AM)Switch Wrote:  

Jed Rubenfeld sounds like he knows his stuff. Right now it seems like if a guy and a girl are making out at a party, and the guy tries to touch boob, and the girl says no, EVEN IF THEY CONTINUE TO MAKE OUT, he could later be charged with rape. I think the definition of rape that the FBI has is actually pretty on point. If someone sticks a dick (or vagina [Image: undecided.gif]) into the pink or the stink without consent, that's rape. Or if someone sticks their dick or vagina into someone else's mouth without consent, that's also rape. That sounds like a reasonable definition to me.

Just make sure you get the girl to text you after sex and everything should be fine.

Actually it's ANY body part, not just genitals. So if you finger a girl, that could be rape.

The text is key for peace of mind [Image: biggrin.gif]

"Desserts are like mistresses. They are bad for you. So if you are having one, you might as well have two." - Alain Ducasse
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