[StealthAlpha]

Done it. The girls into this more often than not have serious mental problems. Be careful they get attached quicker than normal girls.

[Belize King]

Never been in the scene or know much about it but I picked up a CS girl last month. Cool vibe. Older. So she is showing me pictures and I see a collar around her neck. Then she has handcuff earrings. I asked her what it all meant and she said she was owned. Went into a few details. Shit is crazy.

She said she has been to the San Antonio scene and wanted me to come. I thibk it was a swingers party. Never been. Cant imagine smashing and dudes sittin there jerking off. I will see her Thursday and may pry more into her.

[Ryre]

(09-03-2013 01:44 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-03-2013 01:13 PM)Sphere Wrote:  

(08-30-2013 01:02 PM)basilransom Wrote:  

Is there a mechanism for getting written consent to 'abuse?' Eg what if you were married to a total BDSM freak and one day she goes to the cops about shit you've done to her, with her consent. How do people in 'the community' address this risk? Slapping a girl in the face is nothing in the BDSM world, but surely enough to get you in court.

Many such relationships will have explicit written contracts. Do a Google search for BDSM contract for further information. My understanding that these are admissible as evidence under the circumstances that you describe.

Those contracts wouldn't mean shit in a court of law. Words on paper can always be manipulated to mean something else. Her word over yours, you'll get punished no matter the outcome.

The best, and only way, to give yourself insurance against false-rape accusations, is to make sure you spend a lot of cuddle time with a girl after a heavy session of BDSM. Cuddling makes a woman feel really good, and if she feels good then she won't cry rape.

Getting something in writing might not be a bad idea, not because it would be a legally binding contract but just as evidence in case you leave marks or whatever and need to prove that is was consensual. But be warned, a written 'contract' could be used against you too, as evidence that you are a brutal, controlling abuser who is all about the Cycle of Power and Control or whatever the domestic violence establishment is calling it. I saw this happen years ago, a guy accused of domestic violence had given his girlfriend a contract to sign and the prosecutors were passing it around the office marveling at what a sick fuck he was.

[MikeCF]

Take pics/videos to avoid ending up like this lawyer. He had his career and life ruined by women:

http://www.sfexaminer.com/sanfrancisco/s...id=2180579

[Samseau]

(10-01-2013 12:28 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Take pics/videos to avoid ending up like this lawyer. He had his career and life ruined by women:

http://www.sfexaminer.com/sanfrancisco/s...id=2180579

That guy had pics, text, and video, and his life was still ruined. I almost suffered a horrible fate from a craigslist woman as well. Do not trust women from craigslist, always a bad idea.

[WanderingSoul]

(10-01-2013 12:28 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Take pics/videos to avoid ending up like this lawyer. He had his career and life ruined by women:

http://www.sfexaminer.com/sanfrancisco/s...id=2180579

I'm having trouble following it. Did three women come forwards at separate times? Or did one woman come forward and then the other two did once they saw?

I really hope the first comment on the article is just a troll, scary shit that women can be so vindictive as to ruin a mans life:

"I have met this man, Robert "Mike" Hoffman. He can afford a good lawyer to get him out of anything. He does LOVE his rough sex, but he didn't slap my face. He DID put on an ad on CL the day after I was with him and stated in it that he was looking for a certain type of woman. He didn't force me to stay as those other women claimed. He actually loved the sex, but found me to be TOO nice, smart (because I read 1 of his favorite books in bed) and can tolerate his rough sex, hence I haven't heard back! If he ever met more women, I hope they get him arrested!"

[Screwston]

Those 3 girls that lawyer fucked were ugly. They had to have been.

[horn]

Found yet another girl that loves being tied-up, hogtied, smashed from every angle on every piece of furniture in every position. Girls are freaky. Very.

[Flavius Aetius]

I am pretty risk-adverse to trying this stuff. I understand the good aspects for the man--godlike power over a woman and why a submissive woman might like it--losing all sense of control and power---extreme submission.

Problem--as people have already said--if this shit goes wrong you are fucked--like you need to get on a private jet one night and flee the country forever fucked.

I can just imagine some scatterbrained western girl who read 50 shades of grey thinking this will be fun and exciting. After be choked, strangled with cord, beaten, slapped, whipped, handcuffed, sodomized, and with physical marks to prove it--she has a pretty good r.ape/assault case if she wanted revenge or had buyer's remorse. Your BDSM contract is worthless in a court of law. She will say something like she revoked consent, but you duck tapped her mouth and forcibly restrained her. Feminist court will easily buy it.

Also I imagine that these women have to be some of the most mentally screwed up people on earth to want this. Correct?

I watched a documentary on netflix called Fetishes about men who do this except they are the subs and actually pay women to humiliate them and do the whole BDSM lick the mistresses boots shit. One guy even had his head forcibly pushed into a toilet after being led around like a dog on a leash (he had also been whipped, spanked,etc). They asked this pathetic excuse for a human being why he paid thousands of dollars for this treatment. I will never forget his answer "To eliminate my thoughts of mass murder and genocide"---the people who do this are insane. He said that when the mistress flushed the toilet--with his head still in it--it temporarily cleansed him of these thoughts.

After seeing this video it put me off even thinking about BDSM.

[NeVerGymLess]

(10-01-2013 09:33 AM)StealthAlpha Wrote:  

Done it. The girls into this more often than not have serious mental problems. Be careful they get attached quicker than normal girls.

this is true . I told this one girl ,I just want to fuck then after I fuck her tell her to leave . she then cries to other Doms on fetlife about how i don't gave her after care and use her as a fuck toy. and she goes and fucks these guys and they tell her to fuck off too , then she cries to me about it . Like sloot stop opening your legs up so easy , and make DOMS* (lol) work for it .

[horn]

(12-03-2013 08:51 PM)Flavius Aetius Wrote:  

I am pretty risk-adverse to trying this stuff. I understand the good aspects for the man--godlike power over a woman and why a submissive woman might like it--losing all sense of control and power---extreme submission.

After be choked, strangled with cord, beaten, slapped, whipped, handcuffed, sodomized, and with physical marks to prove it

You have definitely confused Bondage & Domination [the title of the thread] with Sadism & Masochism.

I have never whipped, beaten, or strangled a girl with a cord/rope - I think that's crazy stuff for most people which I think is your point. I agree most girls want no part of that stuff unless they have a history of doing it.

Bondage, restraints, psychological domination is a completely different story. And most girls like getting their ass spanked, that's completely normal and far from 50 Shades stuff.

[iknowexactly]

(12-07-2013 01:44 PM)horn Wrote:  

you say

I have never whipped, beaten, or strangled a girl with a cord/rope -...

..but


most girls like getting their ass spanked, that's completely normal and far from 50 Shades stuff.

Pretty funny, it's OK for you to spank, but "beating" is for crazy people..

One person's perversion is another person's delight.

HOwever, I just had a slight false charges scare from a simple MAKEOUT, so leaving marks can indeed be the end of your career and even freedom I'm sure.

[iknowexactly]

Wants to post to warn older guys that if a young chick 18-22 or so gets buyer's remorse, you are even more than a young guy going to be guilty until...well, forever. You're guilty for touching the girl in the first place in the United State of Age Appropriate Dating, and her complaint would be just the chance jealous guys AND women want to punish you for having a better life than they do. If she has marks and DNA proof I don't see how you could get off if she's willing to lie about consent. You could be 100% innocent and still have 96% odds of being convicted.

Plus when she thinks about her friends finding out she fucked "an old guy" her hamster will want to alter reality significantly.

Most girls are not unstable and vicious enough to totally lie about these things, but if you do things with someone you've just met they might be pretty crazy without you knowing it, especially SM freaks.
Watch out for girls that smile a lot, fixed mask-type smiles that they wear like a shield. It can be a tool to hide deep-seated anger.

[Que enspastic]

I now regularly show chicks my ability to turn a tie into a pair of silk handcuffs.

They love it.

[Que enspastic]

My thanks to this thread.

[horn]

(12-07-2013 03:04 PM)iknowexactly Wrote:  

(12-07-2013 01:44 PM)horn Wrote:  

you say
most girls like getting their ass spanked, that's completely normal and far from 50 Shades stuff.

but "beating" is for crazy people..

You really think spanking a girl's ass and whipping & beating somebody S+M style are remotely similar? Talk about funny!

And then you throw in a 'simple makeout' as something to worry about...smh. Maybe we'll all get struck by lightning next time it rains. Pick an argument and stick to it.

But if you were struggling to say 'Get written consent if you are going to leave physical bruises on a girl,' I couldn't agree more.

[buxv67cv]

(10-03-2013 06:13 AM)Samseau Wrote:  

(10-01-2013 12:28 PM)MikeCF Wrote:  

Take pics/videos to avoid ending up like this lawyer. He had his career and life ruined by women:

http://www.sfexaminer.com/sanfrancisco/s...id=2180579

That guy had pics, text, and video, and his life was still ruined. I almost suffered a horrible fate from a craigslist woman as well. Do not trust women from craigslist, always a bad idea.

These women have got to be ho's, right? what kind of 19 year old is looking for casual rough sex w/ 51 year old men off of Craigslist?

Either that, or he must be the most persuasive ad copy writer in the USA.

What's his secret?

[MMM]

(12-07-2013 04:24 PM)Que enspastic Wrote:  

I now regularly show chicks my ability to turn a tie into a pair of silk handcuffs.

They love it.

Do tell. I googled how to, with no luck.

[Lizard King]

ALL hetero men should read this thread and the reaper23 thread. http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-13813.html


The sexual polarity equilibrium MUST be maintained at all times.

[Byron]

(08-21-2013 12:59 AM)scorpion Wrote:  

Psychologically dominating a girl is kind of like banging a married woman: it's thrilling and gives you an extra sense of accomplishment, but when shit goes bad, it tends to go really bad.

When you get that deep inside a girl's head, there is no quick and easy way out. There are no clean breaks with girls you do this to unless you are prepared to (and have prepared to) straight up disappear without a trace. And if you think you can disappear without a trace in this day and age, brother, you had better be meticulous and you had better have been planning it from day one (i.e. fake name, burner phone, 2nd apartment, etc...).

Because when you get that deep inside a girl's mind, you are basically a human drug addiction for her. She literally NEEDS you to function at the level to which she's become accustomed. She will get fucked up without you and start behaving erratically. That deep sense of love and longing for you can easily become replaced by the kind of obsessive love/hate possessed by stalkers.

And it's very likely she will stalk you, if she can. She might show up at your work. She might start calling people you know. She might start vandalizing your property or your car. She can really cause a lot of problems for you if you don't handle things correctly. So you'd better have all your bases covered as far as disappearing goes or be prepared to let her down very gradually and wean her off your domination.

We're all familiar with the cliche about hell having no fury like a woman scorned, and how erraticly women can behave when they're overcome by their emotions. Well, combine those two and imagine that not only have you scorned a woman, but that at the same time she still has an intense longing for you, and that the method by which you scorned her was the withdrawal of your person and your affections. Basically, everything she feels: love, hate, loss, confusion, anger, etc...is all manifested in YOU. It's like the mindfuck to end all mindfucks. The hamster basically explodes into a huge cloud of blood, fur and flame. Anything can happen at that point, so TREAD CAREFULLY. For experienced players only (not like anyone else could pull it off anyway).

.
.
.
.
.

[MtnMan]

I just have to share my first experience in actual domination of a woman. This was 100% inspired by this thread and other similar threads.

Since formally discovering game (early this year) I have been more dominate and animalistic when banging, but it was time to really push my own comfort zone.

A girl I'm currently banging seemed like the perfect candidate. She came over last night to grill and hang on my deck and drink, this girl is a horndog and loves to talk about sex. As soon as the wine started flowing, the sex talk started. I began talking about her as my dirty girl, my sex fiend etc. the night progressed, the making out began. When making out with her I would firmly grasp the back of her head and put her where I wanted her. This was clearly turning her on. I continued by standing Behind her and gently putting my hands around her neck, pulling her close and making out with her more. Again, very well received.

At some point I make her take her cloths off on the deck, while I sit fully clothed in a chair. I pull out my dick and instruct her to come over and sit on it. All the while I am talking about her as my slut, my pussy etc.

At this point she is doing whatever I say, and eagerly awaiting the next command. I take her inside, tie her hands together and tie her up to a vertical beam in the middle of my bedroom. I make her beg for my dick and fuck the hell out her.

I move her to the bed with hands still tied and continue commanding her and shoving her around. I tell her that it's my pussy and make her repeat it. "This is mtnman's pussy!" At some point she is screaming this while cumming repeatedly. I bang her until 4:30 am and I can't take anymore. Bust my nut and pass the hell out.

In the morning she is following me around all glassey eyed. She had to call her girlfriends and tell about what a ridiculous nigh she had etc.

All in all, this was very fun and extra satisfying to dominate a girl like that. To be fair I was quite certain she would be into it from previous conversations, so I wasn't going too far out on a limb by busting out the rope.

Problem is, this girl is falling for me, and I feel like this might turn ugly. I do not want ltr with this girl. There are other warnings in this thread about how this changes the game and can get women addicted to you. I can already see this happening with her. I guess if you play with fire, you will get burned.

Just wanted to thank you guys for inspiring dudes like me to step out of our comfort zones and apply some of this stuff. It's powerful shit, and still a little hard to believe how filthy the average lizzard is. They are just waiting for the right dude to bring it out.

[horn]

Great job.

And the answer is always 'Filthier than you can possibly imagine.'

[reaper23]

this came in via text two nights ago.

she was gone for a couple of months because she wanted me to commit to her and i said no.

now she's back begging on my terms.

[Easy_C]

I've got an acquaintance who has delved fairly deep into this shit. A couple points I gleaned:

-Don't go in cold. A lot of nerdy guys go in, and get assed out and spit out because they lack the game.

-Don't try to go in as a single, thirsty dude. Same deal. Nobody's interested in a single dude and you aren't going to get laid just because you go to a swinger's party. That's about as bad as the dumbasses who show up at biker parties on a brand new bike, brand new leathers, and try to act like they're badasses(and usually get "asked" to leave quickly).

- Lose the nice guy shit. People will smell it on you.

- Looks and frame matter exponentially more. People with both looks and powerful frame will gain respect quickly.

[Easy_C]

Also, looks like that last dude was banned which is a pity. I searched for that image and couldn't find anything so I'm going to (unless it can be proven otherwise) assume that the picture is legit if not necessarily from him.


THAT is the kind of game that everyone on here should strive for. Just stop and think about what kind of power in the game you have to have in order to get a girl to do that, tattoo "property of" on her body(seen that in person), etc. It's an entirely different reason.