[lush1]

Sometimes I pull a girl when I am drunk/E'd out of my mind when not trying, just talking shit and having a laugh. I always find it hard to understand how this happens because I must seem like a right cunt.

Maybe its because the girls equally as fucked? Maybe its because of my don't give a shit attitude?

It goes against everything I have learnt but it happens.

[Captain Caveman]

Act wasted. Get tasted. My liver hates me and it's a gamble with driving but when nature called before I started studying this stuff it's the only way I've ever had any success.

[lush1]

I think its just because I am more forceful to the point of being rude. Ie, a sober would me would never just invite himself round a load of strangers house then make them give me a load of drugs. I'm just too polite when sober, I don't think its possible to replicate this.

[thegmanifesto]

It just goes to show that picking up girls isn't really that hard.

[reino341]

(07-02-2013 03:46 PM)lush1 Wrote:  

I think its just because I am more forceful to the point of being rude. Ie, a sober would me would never just invite himself round a load of strangers house then make them give me a load of drugs. I'm just too polite when sober, I don't think its possible to replicate this.

Of course not if you never push yourself to do those things sober.

[Architekt]

It's great when you wake up and literally have no idea who the girl in your bed is

[XXL]

(07-02-2013 03:30 PM)lush1 Wrote:  

It goes against everything I have learnt but it happens.

what have you learned that goes so against drunk pull?

drunk times are unpredictable - the greatest adventures of all times. this year i had one girl pulling me from start to finish. she kissed me first, got me out of the party, molested me outside, took me to a bar when she bought more beer, molested me more, called every hotel around to book it, caught a cab and took me there. she paid for everything. it wasn't my charm. we're just shitfaced

[Idlenations]

Happened many times the next day is usually followed by bouts of cringing as your memory slowly starts to reappear.

[Noir]

Start taking lessons from your drunk self.
Notice:
- you are more direct
- you are less invested in interactions -> abundance
- you are more self-absorbed and focused on your own objective -> narcissism
- less fear of rejection
- physical escalation is easier because of less consequences and more willingness to pursue the attraction

Therefore we conclude that confidence is the key variable here. Ever wonder why they call alcohol a crutch. Of course if you can harness it then its fine and I personally enjoy my booze. Learn to control how much you drink and develop your confidence.

Balance the alcohol and the pulling- a) you can learn more from yourself sober after a point b) you stop relying on it for a crutch. In the beginning I would see a girl in the club and want to approach and instead go take 2 shots and then go speak to her..

Alcohol just removes limitations imposed by society on the way you derive your self-confidence/self-trust. This is one of the first steps in stepping up to the higher leagues, IMO.

[Kieran]

Alcohol works great for me too with seemingly no limits on how fucked up I can be. I don't want alcohol in my life anymore though because I have a problem with it.

The next best thing I've found is following the 3 second rule (the only old school pickup advice that really works). I find that it works to get me out of my head and into the moment, the same as with alcohol, because it's almost as if I take action and start talking to the girl before my mind has a chance to catch up and start with all the doubting and excuse making.

[thegmanifesto]

(07-02-2013 03:30 PM)lush1 Wrote:  

It goes against everything I have learnt but it happens.

That is because 99% of "Pua's" didn't start talking to girls before The game came out in 2005.

The rest of us were drinking, smoking, droping beans and swooping since high school.

The Pua crowd is usually the last to know.

[Parlay44]

3 drinks is ideal. You're just buzzed enough to be relaxed and funny but not drunk enough to be a douchebag.