[Sonsowey]

Hey,

So I got this girl over to my place for a first date. She showed right up to my place like at 1am, so I was of the mind that it was on.

Basically, nothing ended up happening. She showed me some salsa moves and I showed her some, which was fun, we ended up lying on my bed a bit and listening to music, then watching some tv where she was completely up against me in various ways, lying on top of me, cuddled up against me, on my lap, whatever.

I tried to kiss her and was rebuked, "I hardly know you!" but she stayed chill the whole time and stayed cuddled up with me. We were doing that playing with each others hands thing, interlocking fingers, you know, cutesy stuff.

Watching TV isn't my usual game plan at all, but since she came over so late on the drop of a hat, I really just thought we were gonna get to business quickly...

I tried again, but she wasn't feeling it still, even though she stayed right there and made no intention to leave. Eventually, she got going and no kiss except a goodbye cheek kiss. The whole time though, she never seemed uncomfortable or anything, I guess it was just too fast for her or whatever (she's young).

We're still texting, and she seems down to meet again.

Basically, next time, what would you do? Lay off a while and let tension build then go for the kiss later?

I'm thinking a date outside of the house, get food, go to a park by the water, get ice cream, build up some memories together y'know, as opposed to just watching TV. She doesn't drink...

[Timoteo]

This is an interesting one. I know some chicks won't kiss, but WILL fuck. They'll say something about only kissing boyfriends, or if she's cheating, she'll say she reserves kissing for her current boyfriend because it's intimate. Overall, kissing is a way of getting to know a guy, and most chicks won't hesitate to kiss a guy they're attracted to (I'm assuming she's attracted because she came over, got on your bed, allowed other intimate contact), but might stop you from putting your hands in certain places. You can try the whole "building connection" thing, then go for the kiss again. If she doesn't give up the tongue the next time you're together, give up on HER, period.

[GenJx]

she used you as a cuddle buddy and you obliged. give her one more chance and NEXT if she tries to pull this again. unless you like being a beta cuddle orbiter

[Sonsowey]

Oh yea, I would never bother with a girl who didn't kiss after 2 times.

Like for instance my hand was resting on her ass when we were watching tv, and various times when I wanted her to move or get up or something I'd like lightly smack her ass to indicate. She acted like that was all perfectly fine, but was 100% no on kissing. She kept bringing up that we didn't really know each other, which leads me to believe if I can pull off a memory-filled date where we get to know each other, then...

Basically yea, I got cuddle raped...

[Jaylow]

Some girls don't like kissing but are DTF. I moved to a big city last year and it was pretty shocking how many girls I met/talked to that said she won't kiss anyone but a LTR. We live in a day and age where kissing is more intimate than fucking...

[Gallego2006]

I would have given her a skeptical look and then asked her "what's up?" after being rebuked while laying in the same bed. See what she says -- see if there is some valid reason for the rebuke or maybe she likes a little push-pull. Then go for a kiss on her ear, neck or cheek.

Definitely build the tension. Give her a poke in the side.

[Aliblahba]

Breath mints.

[Kickb]

Yeah your breath stank/tasted bad.

Probably.

[Gmac]

Herpes.

[TheBlackNarwhal]

Been in this situation before, and I agree with GenJx. Try again next time and if she still refuses, then she only uses you as a convenient cuddle buddy that enjoys withholding intimacy from you. Don't waste your time.

[babelfish669]

(06-13-2013 12:39 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

This is an interesting one. I know some chicks won't kiss, but WILL fuck. They'll say something about only kissing boyfriends, or if she's cheating, she'll say she reserves kissing for her current boyfriend because it's intimate.

Yeah, same here.

Girls have all kinds of crazy sexual disorders. They will justify that its ok to do something really dirty because they have standards and are too good to do something else. Kind of like the whole I'm still a virgin because I've only had anal thing.

I would judge the girl based entirely on her body language, not if she will or won't kiss you. If she was resistant than next time make sure she has to deal entirely on your terms, just don't go out of your way to see her.

[Sonsowey]

(06-13-2013 07:50 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Breath mints.

Nah I don't slack on hygiene. I brushed my teeth before she came over, showered, put on fresh clothes, and my place was clean.

(06-13-2013 02:29 PM)Gallego2006 Wrote:  

I would have given her a skeptical look and then asked her "what's up?" after being rebuked while laying in the same bed. See what she says -- see if there is some valid reason for the rebuke or maybe she likes a little push-pull. Then go for a kiss on her ear, neck or cheek.

Definitely build the tension. Give her a poke in the side.

Without me asking, she said a couple times "I hardly know you" and "I don't kiss strangers".

So it's a comfort thing, at least, that's what she's saaaaaying

[Gallego2006]

(06-14-2013 09:21 AM)Sonsowey Wrote:  

(06-13-2013 07:50 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Breath mints.

Nah I don't slack on hygiene. I brushed my teeth before she came over, showered, put on fresh clothes, and my place was clean.

(06-13-2013 02:29 PM)Gallego2006 Wrote:  

I would have given her a skeptical look and then asked her "what's up?" after being rebuked while laying in the same bed. See what she says -- see if there is some valid reason for the rebuke or maybe she likes a little push-pull. Then go for a kiss on her ear, neck or cheek.

Definitely build the tension. Give her a poke in the side.

Without me asking, she said a couple times "I hardly know you" and "I don't kiss strangers".

So it's a comfort thing, at least, that's what she's saaaaaying

Aw, ok. Read through Krauser's blog if you haven't already. Here's a good post, but he has a lot more on building comfort and escalating.

http://krauserpua.com/2011/08/23/rockys-...ion-model/

[jariel]

Sometimes I wonder why guys waste their time with females.

I have a strict rule, which I tend to throw out to females in casual conversation, any woman who comes over to my house late at night is coming over to get fucked.

1 A.M. is not the time to be showing a chick how to do the "Dile Que No", it's time for gobble, gobble, slurp, slurp, bang, bang, and get out.

I mean shit, she claims to hardly know you, but she's at your house by herself at 1 A.M., and you're rationalizing as to why she's doing such bullshit without seeing the incongruence in her words and actions?

I would bet money she has a dude in her life who she's already being fully intimate with, so although she may be open to it, for her own reasons, she's not ready to submit to you and/or accept the inherent slutiness that comes with being intimate with multiple men at a time.

But anyway, I assume we're all grown people, if a woman can't act like an adult, then I'm not going to waste time with her, you don't come to my spot in the middle of the night and then act prude, sorry.

We have women all over this country playing quarterback with their pussies, yet we're wasting time with chicks who want to step onto the field, but don't want to play the game.

[MrXY]

Quote:

She doesn't drink...

That's a big part of your problem right there

[silverbullit]

She's a crazy slut. Not a sane, decent girl.

I always keep a pair of fuzzy handcuffs on my nightstand, its a great way to open up the bdsm door (which all girls love). You broach the topic and eventually ask "have you ever been tied up?"... she will most likely answer no. But she will also most likely be down.

At this point you gently tie her wrists behind her back while she kneels on your bed (with her clothes on)... then you just put the moves on.

She's there to fuck, you just have to heat that pussy up till its dripping. She's probably dissapointed cause you put some fuckin 6th grade moves on her.

[eradicator]

So if she will fuck but not kiss, would all of you Next her because she is nuts? I think I might, but have never ran into this situation.

[AneroidOcean]

(06-14-2013 05:23 PM)master_thespian Wrote:  

So if she will fuck but not kiss, would all of you Next her because she is nuts? I think I might, but have never ran into this situation.

Think about this entirely selfishly. Do you want to kiss girls who you're fucking?

YES - Tell her you kiss girls while you fuck and if she's not down don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

NO - Why the fuck do you care?

[CJ_W]

(06-13-2013 12:39 PM)Timoteo Wrote:  

This is an interesting one. I know some chicks won't kiss, but WILL fuck. They'll say something about only kissing boyfriends, or if she's cheating, she'll say she reserves kissing for her current boyfriend because it's intimate. Overall, kissing is a way of getting to know a guy, and most chicks won't hesitate to kiss a guy they're attracted to (I'm assuming she's attracted because she came over, got on your bed, allowed other intimate contact), but might stop you from putting your hands in certain places. You can try the whole "building connection" thing, then go for the kiss again. If she doesn't give up the tongue the next time you're together, give up on HER, period.

Pretty much this, I have had something similar, where a woman didn't want to kiss, so I just kissed her neck, felt her up, took off her clothes and banged.

I kept seeing her but never kissed her, but since we were banging I never cared really.

Next girl that did that to me but didn't bang, I kicked her out that night, and let her walk to the subway station alone. I'm not down for wasting time.

Of course I usually do the whole two date thing, date one: at a nice bar, date two my place. either there is sex on that date or I pencil someone else in.

[CJ_W]

(06-14-2013 04:53 PM)silverbullit Wrote:  

She's a crazy slut. Not a sane, decent girl.

I always keep a pair of fuzzy handcuffs on my nightstand, its a great way to open up the bdsm door (which all girls love). You broach the topic and eventually ask "have you ever been tied up?"... she will most likely answer no. But she will also most likely be down.

At this point you gently tie her wrists behind her back while she kneels on your bed (with her clothes on)... then you just put the moves on.

She's there to fuck, you just have to heat that pussy up till its dripping. She's probably dissapointed cause you put some fuckin 6th grade moves on her.

that's a damn good idea.

[xmlenigma]

Sniff her neck.. back & side of her neck.. (if you can find a way to do this..) it will hit another spot.