Note: This is a work in progress. I am considering doing a writeup for RoK about misogyny and how feminists get it wrong while also talking about real cases of it. Please understand I am not arguing the guy in the movie hates women, but that I am using his bumbling, dishonesty and selfishness as a framing device to understand why feminists hate men. This is a work in progress and I am actively soliciting opinions from ya’ll. Seriously – comment with any idea that pops into your head. I have the feeling this post could blow the fuck up. If you aid my analysis, I will give a hat tip in the final article.
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Once again, I am huge horror fan. Shutter technically qualifies as horror, but is more creepy than anything else. It was originally a Thai movie that was remade as an American movie in 2008. It stars a good looking lead in Rachel Taylor who is a pretty good actress. The male lead is decent.
Would you bang? I think she has very sexy eyes.
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The movie isn’t anything special but I enjoyed it. It opens with a newly married couple moving to Tokyo from NYC. When traveling in the wilderness of Japan, Rachel Taylor, Jane, runs over a woman. It is dark and snowy so it is sketchy to begin. They pull over and there is no body or any evidence of blood. They leave and go back to Tokyo. Strange things start to happen in their photos – strange lights start to appear from nowhere. An associate suggests it is spirit photography – a spirit is trying to communicate intense emotions and pain. They start notices weird shit around their swanky apartment and the husband, Ben, starts to complain of strong shoulder pain that doctors can’t deal with. They start seeing visages of a ghost woman at night. They go to a psychic who tells what is happens. Understand only Ben knows Japanese. When asked by Jane what he Ben accuses the shrink of being a bust.
An important development happens when Jane figures out the spirit is a yurei and learns that Ben knew this woman, named Megumi. She confronts Ben and he has they dated for a time but she become ultra-possessive and clingy. He said his two friends helped him break it off with her. Shortly after this the spectral soul of Megumi murders Ben’s two friends, raping one that lead to his suicide the next day. Jane steps up her questioning of Ben with a photo of their wedding day with a brooding Megumi starring Ben down. They go to Megumi’s home and find her desiccated corpse. She committed suicide long before the car accident. Megumi has a funeral and that night she comes on strong and brutally attacks the couple. Jane screams at Megumi that Ben left her because he never loved her. She tosses them across room before letting out a bone-chilling laugh.
Smoke a joint and relax to this joint.
They move back to NYC to put it all behind them. Jane notices that Megumi is still showing up in photos. Dissatisfied with Ben’s answers, she goes through his stuff and finds a jump drive. She uploads it and is horrified by what she finds. Ben and his friend had hatched a plan to drive Megumi away. They drugged her and took pictures of her naked surrounded by empty beer bottles, in varying states of undress. In the process, the two friends begin to violently rape her multiple times with her completely unable to react at all. I believe she was conscious just unable to move. They threatened her that if she didn’t leave Ben alone they would send the pictures to her family to shame her.
Jane refuses to live with a man who let his friends rape a woman. She goes to leave, but Megumi locks the door. She begins to torture Ben by sitting on his shoulders – this was the cause of his shoulder pain. Ben vainly tries to electrocute himself with his photography equipment but doesn’t kill himself but render him mentally infirm. The movie closes with him lifelessly existed in a mental hospital, with Megumi’s body sitting on his hunched over shoulders, reflected in the window to the door.
What do you do about this? It is shit like this that fuels feminist’s souls. A man who drugged a female, let her get raped and documented it? Ben clearly is an asshole, but is he a misogynist?
Misogyny is generally defined as hatred of women. Some feminists, like that woman in Australia, want to expand the definition. I won’t be discussing the Orwellian nature of that. Misogyny, as word, did not gain serious popularity until second wave feminism rolled around in the late fifties and sixties. Desperately seeking a way to explain away patriarchy, they did the predictable American thing and pretend that men just hated their fabulous selves and sought to oppress them. Imagine that – a woman barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen, looking the mirror and reminded how awesome she is, how she could do what her husband does, etc. A recipe for self-absorption. You see this reflected in modern times, with a common complaint by women that men are just jealous and handle a strong woman..
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Like I stepped through with the troll analysis – women are looking for a reaction from men from the changes they made to their life via education and careers. For education, it doesn’t mean much too intelligent people. While respect people who gets solid degrees from a career perspective, it doesn’t do much to affect my perception of their intelligence. Maybe only medical degrees to that for me. Law degrees are worthless as the day is long. The dumbest people are all lawyers. Some the smartest are lawyers, to be sure. However, some the biggest idiots, manginas and dickwads are lawyers. Now, understand some of them are actually intelligent – they just use their intellect to create false realities in their mind – like feminism. However, back on point, women were looking for men to value them like they value men. In a bizarre and amusing twist they didn’t become female mirrors of alpha males, they became female versions of beta providers. Part of this is biological and part is psychological. The biological part is hypergamy and general female mental weakness. Camille Paglia’s are few and far between with the fairer sex.
The psychological part is female delusions in America. Women, by and large, don’t have a good grasp on reality in America. They are coddled in a school system that hands them special privileges. If they are middle class, they usually work in places that mollycoddle them. They draw on more public benefits than men, live longer and healthier lives. The media caters to them and corporations treat them as more important customers. This is part of what breeds narcissism. The Last Psychiatrist has repeatedly pointed out that you create self-absorption but praising kids for immutable traits. For example, telling young girls they are important as women is bad. Praising anybody for immutable traits is generally a bad idea. You need to praise people for what they do. Don’t say, “You are so clever!” say, “The story you wrote for class you worked hard on and shows you are clever.” The distinction is important but subtle. Lets’ say you some friend who wants to hold you down. Any easy way to just start praising you for things you haven’t accomplished yet. A great example would be a friend telling you constantly how much game you have and how you clean up. If you press him why you don’t get quality females, he will reply it is on the women who reject you.
That isn’t healthy as you will develop a mindset of stagnation, blaming others for your lack of game. A healthy perspective would be I need to step my game up and part of that is picking the right targets. I can’t just step to any chick and expect her want my cock. I have to better about picking women to approach and if I don’t the lay or number, I will try harder next, maybe ask players on RVF to break my approach down. It doesn’t say much about my game besides I have room to improve. That is a healthy mental approach.
Stepping back to women and their expectations, it works on two axes. One level, women have long try to convince themselves they love and lust after their beta husbands. I see this with a fellow law grad who married a simpy, thirsty ass beta. Were it not for getting butterface on lock I would consider him borderline omega material. She tries to put up photos of their love and all the shit they do. It is telling because she explicitly that he isn’t like other guys that weren’t man enough to commit. LOL, honey, I know your history. She was an alpha chaser par none. She has a busted face but a solid face. A perfect storm as she got top players to fuck her drunk but kick that shit out the next morning . She developed a serious complex and I think she picked this low beta because she can control him. Unlike the alphas she wanted, she had no ability to get them beyond getting them drunk and sticking her hands down his pants and go full cavewoman on them. I know this is her technique because she did it to me. Cornered me in a unpopulated part of the party and told me she wanted to fuck. I forced her on her needs and she sucked me off – told her I was too drunk to fuck. Funniest part is this happened in undergrad. We just happened to get into the same law school. Makes sense it is fairly close to my hometown.
Let me quote myself from a previous thread to clarify my point here:
The axis is projection of female sexual desire onto men. They assume men want the same things as women. While this point has been working many times on this forum understand that women assume men want confident, successful women. They assume men get this from male privilege and patriarchy. They confuse personal psychology with privilege. Very typical because they don’t understand reality at all.
That was much longer than I desired, however, let’s chop up feminist approaches to misogyny. For the uninitiated, feminist assume we live in a deeply misogynistic society. Tellingly, the stronger the feminist, the more damning male privilege becomes. Unable to comprehend the world in a way that conforms to reality, they invent fictions to perpetuate their mindset. They assume men and women are socialized in a patriarchal society that privileges men over women and teaches them to hate women and love men. This is so completely bullshit that it works. Some of the world’s biggest bullshit is in a steaming pile in the middle of the room..
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This is one of them. Self-hatred doesn’t develop from misogyny of society, it develops from the narcissism of society and parents. When I took my Critical Race Theory class I advanced a theory of social narcissism. One woman starred me down before explaining narcissism develops from misogyny. When I pressured her to breakdown the teacher rudely cut me off and changed the conversation. When presented with a superior mind, the hamsters got real jittery. Could you imagine me in a small class with some feminists and manginas? Insert sinister laugh here.
Let’s break down narcissism through the lens of the black community to prove two points: one, white feminists have used black people for their own perceived benefit and the legacy of slavery. I developed this point on Obsidian’s blog last month, but my theory was that the limited resources whites afforded blacks lead to me-first approach to life in the black community. Faced with severely constrained resources they had to viciously compete for what was available. This led to narcissism in the black community. While this is a general theme, you see this exposed when black leaders emerge and can’t get other blacks on the board. The ones that won’t get on board to fight for rights? A common rejoinder is they only want to take care of themselves. Take this as you will because I am white, not black. I think this is true because I saw this in the poor community I grew up in.
There are so many thieves, fraudsters and drug pushers in my small hometown. These people don’t care about anybody but themselves. Many non-criminals do the same. When the local pastors and leaders try to bring the community together it always fails - too many drunks, criminals and rank narcissists for it to work. The local county cops always hate coming to my town to deal with drunken bar-fights as it always the same irascible drunks fighting the same people. They make up when sober, then get increasingly angry while drinking which will always result some ass beating – either theirs or somebody elses. I think this could be analogous to the black community – extremely poor and has limited resources and is filled with the “it’s all about me” mentality.
Taking this to feminists, they have used black people as not only a trial run for booting fathers out, but also their wombs. Understand that feminists are not fertile – they need other women to breed for them. I think part of the impetus is to create a class of breeding females to make up for their lack of reproducing. While many white women are used by them, feminists have also targeted blacks as a trial run. I don’t have the link so take this as you will, but I recall some article from Ms. Magazine in which the white feminist boasted of liberating the black female from the clutches of black male domination. I don’t know what the fuck she is talking about as black men, in America, have never had that right. White people were in control of blacks. As slaves, black men couldn’t prevent their master from fucking their wives or daughters. After being freed, what black man had hand to keep whites from fucking their wife? Think about it. She then intoned that feminists need to watch the black community as black women, as single mothers or non-mothers, will transform the black community in a very positive, proving women are the most important investment for society.
I’m going let that one go and refocus this fairly meandering opinion back on misogyny. Feminists are social constructionists and deeply and naively believe are socialized right, they bad stuff like rape will go away. I recall a black feminist going on Hannity and talking about rape culture. While I am not a fan, I remember him gently reminding her that evil will always exist and rape will never go away. It prompted a feminist response to support her, but understand the cracks in the narrative appeared. Some feminists angrily replied he supported rape culture with that comment. No, he said what he did because he recognized the immaturity of her comment. Unable to come to grips with evil committed by men in this world, she creates a false reality where the things she dislikes goes away. You feel the fear in the feminist articles as they toyed with accepting reality, but the hamster is strong and muscular in feminists. You know what they concluded – rape culture exists and rape will go away if it destroyed.
Which is my broader point that feminist are immature children. Let me bring in rape, sexual abuse and violence of fathers. Often times, feminist self-identify as having been raped and beaten by men. Feminists like to think their experiences speak to women as a class, but it doesn’t. It means that women, when confronted with terrible experiences don’t deal with them well. I don’t blame them ,as most people don’t have healthy responses to untoward circumstances – especially as a kid. Any female child subjected to abuse has a increased risk of becoming a feminist. Getting raped and becoming a feminist is an admission that she hasn’t come to terms with her rape. I understand the impetus to start resources for rape victims, sometimes that is the healthy way to deal with that. However, the whole framework of feminism and their response to abuse of women by men is fucked.
Let me draw on personal experience about being robbed. To this day, when under intense stress, I will have a dream about being robbed. I was a just a young kid, delivering pizzas in my hometown. I was just 18. I went the house and some dude asked me if I could break a 20. He told me the woman on the phone she we could. Before I knew it, some big ass black dude got behind me and “If you don’t behind the house right now n*gger I will drop your cracker ass right now.” I left the butt of gun in my backside. I complied and was lead back to two more guys in masks with one having a gun in his hand. He put the gun to my temple and said, “Give me the money n*gger” They started to verbally abuse me and forced me onto my knees and told me to beg for my life. I didn’t respond at first, but the guy cocked the gun and said that will do me right there if I don’t beg for my life like a bitch. I told them to take all my money, take it all. I don’t want to die. They say somebody walked down the street and they panicked and bolted but not before taking my 20 bucks. Class X Felony for 20 bucks. They were never caught. I framed the local story about my robbery and whenever I’m depressed or lazy I look at to remind me that I could be dead and not the have the opportunities I have right now.
My response was quick. I was angry and was yelling about dumbass n*ggers in my car. I checked myself and went to see the local pastor. Understand I didn’t regularly attend but he was a stand-up guy who I supremely respected. I went to the church and we talked for over three hours. He listened to me and I listened to him. He dropped some serious wisdom and gave me a big bear-hug after we talked, giving me his cell and email telling me to contact if I ever need anything. To this day, I will text him and he drops serious wisdom. That is a psychologically healthy response. I mentioned by initial racism because that is exactly what you don’t want to do – extrapolate to an entire group the actions of a few. You need to talk to people you trust and be honest about what you feel and what happened.
While women are never asking to be raped, they put themselves in positions to get raped. Like me, I was in a risky profession that has fatality rates the pace with cops and firefighters. I never asked to be robbed, but I knew there could be consequences. It applies to rape – women never ask for it, but they should know if they put themselves in bad situations. Getting drunk and walking home alone from the bar is a prime example. I spoke once here about a dude the followed my boy’s girl from the bar. When he walked into what he thought was her room, he encountered two dudes who were more than ready to kick is faggot ass. Fuck rapists. Motherfucker tried to tell us he was making sure she got home safe – you stop at her door you assfuck, you don’t follow into her personal bedroom while she is crying. She knew what was going down.
We comforted her, and she admitted she shouldn’t have walked home alone. I told her was right but to not blame herself. Just know you made a mistake and next time text a friend to escort you. Since she was just a couple blocks away at a bar, I would have met her at the bar to walk her back. I don’t care if some keyboard jockeys think that is white-knighting, I want to help my female friends. Which is my final point – degrees of misogyny.
I had a handle that I no longer use in the manosphere in which I relayed
this story. Some initial comments were supportive, but then some fools started to fault me for my white-knighting in wanted to help her from the bar. I said, straight up, if a female is my friend I will take care of her. I am not going to go out of my way, as she has other friends, but if it strikes me as reasonable I will help her. I am sick of these keyboard jockeys thinking ignoring or hating on women is cool. Like in that thread about women getting burned alive in a limo, some of those comments were sad. This isn’t a forum about women-hating – it is about self-improvement. That finishes my commentary on RVF, so take it as you will.
I want to address real misogyny. Some guys do hate women. Many more women hate men than men hate women – but why do a handful of men hate women? I think two approaches are necessary – sexual inadequacy and motherly abuse/neglect. Sexual inadequacy of misogynists might merit its own post. Understand that this a common approach for the unattractive- they hate on the desirable. Notice how ugly fatties hate on men – they become feminists. Fundamentally, if you hate either sex, you hate yourself. Feminists like to pretend that is they had a cock, their problems would go away. Hypergamy plays into that because they aren’t thinking of omegas with that thought – they are thinking of alphas. When men hate on women, they hate their sexuality and being a man. They may double down on current female privilege, using female educational privilege to explain away their intellectual or educational privileges.
Misogyny is generally a personal issue, unlike misandry that is peddled by feminists and some mainstream outlets. The problem is a critical mass of females emerged that had been wronged by men – or latched onto those women – and took a side issue nationwide. I remember one law professor recounting a story about women who would come to her office, crying about how they realize how bad women have it in society. Notice they pick weak women – women they can manipulate. Once in their clutches they can manipulate that woman as they wise. I noticed no hot woman ever came at her - only fatties and uglies. I had a short relationship with a cute Arab woman. She ended up being a bitch, but know she would never go out on weekends with that professor’s right-hand woman in law school. She pulled no punches saying that that law student was no more than a boner killer. She said early on in law school, that bitch would talk to guys about rape culture if they tried talking to their group. She was all about limiting access to the group. She eventually got into a relationship with some serious simp whom she controlled outright. I made a comment to her once about her domination of her relationship. Really bad move – that equalist hamster was supremely offended. My girl calmed her down, but know that she assumed her domination of her boyfriend was equal. Whatever.
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Back on point, why do some men hate women? Sexual inadequacies aside, let’s talk about motherly abuse. Feminists often blame all men for their sexual abuse at the hands of fathers. They then blame all men for their issues. Men can do this too; they just don’t have the platform to do it. Men do it because they don’t want to deal with inappropriate female behavior. They want to pray it away by blaming all women for their issues. It is sad, but it is on point.
Misogyny develops not because of society but because of shitty parents. Society does not teach men or women to hate women – if anything; they teach them to hate men. I remember a middle school competition in which I was denied winning because a girl was second and girls need to win. I beat her ass straight-up and they held that participation ceremony at my expense. I remember holding my runner-up trophy while the teacher smiled at me, saying that girls are finally getting their recognition. That sort of shit breeds hatred of women. I focused on society instead of women, but I could have blamed women.
This uneven analysis ends here. I presented different approaches to feminist approaches to male hatred of women. It is not solid and needs to be rewritten. However, I hope some players on this forum can help me develop this piece.
Once again, I am huge horror fan. Shutter technically qualifies as horror, but is more creepy than anything else. It was originally a Thai movie that was remade as an American movie in 2008. It stars a good looking lead in Rachel Taylor who is a pretty good actress. The male lead is decent.
Would you bang? I think she has very sexy eyes.
The movie isn’t anything special but I enjoyed it. It opens with a newly married couple moving to Tokyo from NYC. When traveling in the wilderness of Japan, Rachel Taylor, Jane, runs over a woman. It is dark and snowy so it is sketchy to begin. They pull over and there is no body or any evidence of blood. They leave and go back to Tokyo. Strange things start to happen in their photos – strange lights start to appear from nowhere. An associate suggests it is spirit photography – a spirit is trying to communicate intense emotions and pain. They start notices weird shit around their swanky apartment and the husband, Ben, starts to complain of strong shoulder pain that doctors can’t deal with. They start seeing visages of a ghost woman at night. They go to a psychic who tells what is happens. Understand only Ben knows Japanese. When asked by Jane what he Ben accuses the shrink of being a bust.
An important development happens when Jane figures out the spirit is a yurei and learns that Ben knew this woman, named Megumi. She confronts Ben and he has they dated for a time but she become ultra-possessive and clingy. He said his two friends helped him break it off with her. Shortly after this the spectral soul of Megumi murders Ben’s two friends, raping one that lead to his suicide the next day. Jane steps up her questioning of Ben with a photo of their wedding day with a brooding Megumi starring Ben down. They go to Megumi’s home and find her desiccated corpse. She committed suicide long before the car accident. Megumi has a funeral and that night she comes on strong and brutally attacks the couple. Jane screams at Megumi that Ben left her because he never loved her. She tosses them across room before letting out a bone-chilling laugh.
Smoke a joint and relax to this joint.
They move back to NYC to put it all behind them. Jane notices that Megumi is still showing up in photos. Dissatisfied with Ben’s answers, she goes through his stuff and finds a jump drive. She uploads it and is horrified by what she finds. Ben and his friend had hatched a plan to drive Megumi away. They drugged her and took pictures of her naked surrounded by empty beer bottles, in varying states of undress. In the process, the two friends begin to violently rape her multiple times with her completely unable to react at all. I believe she was conscious just unable to move. They threatened her that if she didn’t leave Ben alone they would send the pictures to her family to shame her.
Jane refuses to live with a man who let his friends rape a woman. She goes to leave, but Megumi locks the door. She begins to torture Ben by sitting on his shoulders – this was the cause of his shoulder pain. Ben vainly tries to electrocute himself with his photography equipment but doesn’t kill himself but render him mentally infirm. The movie closes with him lifelessly existed in a mental hospital, with Megumi’s body sitting on his hunched over shoulders, reflected in the window to the door.
What do you do about this? It is shit like this that fuels feminist’s souls. A man who drugged a female, let her get raped and documented it? Ben clearly is an asshole, but is he a misogynist?
Misogyny is generally defined as hatred of women. Some feminists, like that woman in Australia, want to expand the definition. I won’t be discussing the Orwellian nature of that. Misogyny, as word, did not gain serious popularity until second wave feminism rolled around in the late fifties and sixties. Desperately seeking a way to explain away patriarchy, they did the predictable American thing and pretend that men just hated their fabulous selves and sought to oppress them. Imagine that – a woman barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen, looking the mirror and reminded how awesome she is, how she could do what her husband does, etc. A recipe for self-absorption. You see this reflected in modern times, with a common complaint by women that men are just jealous and handle a strong woman..
Like I stepped through with the troll analysis – women are looking for a reaction from men from the changes they made to their life via education and careers. For education, it doesn’t mean much too intelligent people. While respect people who gets solid degrees from a career perspective, it doesn’t do much to affect my perception of their intelligence. Maybe only medical degrees to that for me. Law degrees are worthless as the day is long. The dumbest people are all lawyers. Some the smartest are lawyers, to be sure. However, some the biggest idiots, manginas and dickwads are lawyers. Now, understand some of them are actually intelligent – they just use their intellect to create false realities in their mind – like feminism. However, back on point, women were looking for men to value them like they value men. In a bizarre and amusing twist they didn’t become female mirrors of alpha males, they became female versions of beta providers. Part of this is biological and part is psychological. The biological part is hypergamy and general female mental weakness. Camille Paglia’s are few and far between with the fairer sex.
The psychological part is female delusions in America. Women, by and large, don’t have a good grasp on reality in America. They are coddled in a school system that hands them special privileges. If they are middle class, they usually work in places that mollycoddle them. They draw on more public benefits than men, live longer and healthier lives. The media caters to them and corporations treat them as more important customers. This is part of what breeds narcissism. The Last Psychiatrist has repeatedly pointed out that you create self-absorption but praising kids for immutable traits. For example, telling young girls they are important as women is bad. Praising anybody for immutable traits is generally a bad idea. You need to praise people for what they do. Don’t say, “You are so clever!” say, “The story you wrote for class you worked hard on and shows you are clever.” The distinction is important but subtle. Lets’ say you some friend who wants to hold you down. Any easy way to just start praising you for things you haven’t accomplished yet. A great example would be a friend telling you constantly how much game you have and how you clean up. If you press him why you don’t get quality females, he will reply it is on the women who reject you.
That isn’t healthy as you will develop a mindset of stagnation, blaming others for your lack of game. A healthy perspective would be I need to step my game up and part of that is picking the right targets. I can’t just step to any chick and expect her want my cock. I have to better about picking women to approach and if I don’t the lay or number, I will try harder next, maybe ask players on RVF to break my approach down. It doesn’t say much about my game besides I have room to improve. That is a healthy mental approach.
Stepping back to women and their expectations, it works on two axes. One level, women have long try to convince themselves they love and lust after their beta husbands. I see this with a fellow law grad who married a simpy, thirsty ass beta. Were it not for getting butterface on lock I would consider him borderline omega material. She tries to put up photos of their love and all the shit they do. It is telling because she explicitly that he isn’t like other guys that weren’t man enough to commit. LOL, honey, I know your history. She was an alpha chaser par none. She has a busted face but a solid face. A perfect storm as she got top players to fuck her drunk but kick that shit out the next morning . She developed a serious complex and I think she picked this low beta because she can control him. Unlike the alphas she wanted, she had no ability to get them beyond getting them drunk and sticking her hands down his pants and go full cavewoman on them. I know this is her technique because she did it to me. Cornered me in a unpopulated part of the party and told me she wanted to fuck. I forced her on her needs and she sucked me off – told her I was too drunk to fuck. Funniest part is this happened in undergrad. We just happened to get into the same law school. Makes sense it is fairly close to my hometown.
Let me quote myself from a previous thread to clarify my point here:
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As usual, the guys would abuse women will do so with impunity – they often have anti-social tendencies so they don’t care about what the social mores are. For guys that wouldn’t beat their girlfriends or wives all it does it create unnecessary fear on their part. It is beyond predictable that women target their psychological equal – the insecure beta male. Unable to control the men they desire – they could be alphas – they double down on asserting supreme control over beta males. It is never satisfying for them.
The axis is projection of female sexual desire onto men. They assume men want the same things as women. While this point has been working many times on this forum understand that women assume men want confident, successful women. They assume men get this from male privilege and patriarchy. They confuse personal psychology with privilege. Very typical because they don’t understand reality at all.
That was much longer than I desired, however, let’s chop up feminist approaches to misogyny. For the uninitiated, feminist assume we live in a deeply misogynistic society. Tellingly, the stronger the feminist, the more damning male privilege becomes. Unable to comprehend the world in a way that conforms to reality, they invent fictions to perpetuate their mindset. They assume men and women are socialized in a patriarchal society that privileges men over women and teaches them to hate women and love men. This is so completely bullshit that it works. Some of the world’s biggest bullshit is in a steaming pile in the middle of the room..
This is one of them. Self-hatred doesn’t develop from misogyny of society, it develops from the narcissism of society and parents. When I took my Critical Race Theory class I advanced a theory of social narcissism. One woman starred me down before explaining narcissism develops from misogyny. When I pressured her to breakdown the teacher rudely cut me off and changed the conversation. When presented with a superior mind, the hamsters got real jittery. Could you imagine me in a small class with some feminists and manginas? Insert sinister laugh here.
Let’s break down narcissism through the lens of the black community to prove two points: one, white feminists have used black people for their own perceived benefit and the legacy of slavery. I developed this point on Obsidian’s blog last month, but my theory was that the limited resources whites afforded blacks lead to me-first approach to life in the black community. Faced with severely constrained resources they had to viciously compete for what was available. This led to narcissism in the black community. While this is a general theme, you see this exposed when black leaders emerge and can’t get other blacks on the board. The ones that won’t get on board to fight for rights? A common rejoinder is they only want to take care of themselves. Take this as you will because I am white, not black. I think this is true because I saw this in the poor community I grew up in.
There are so many thieves, fraudsters and drug pushers in my small hometown. These people don’t care about anybody but themselves. Many non-criminals do the same. When the local pastors and leaders try to bring the community together it always fails - too many drunks, criminals and rank narcissists for it to work. The local county cops always hate coming to my town to deal with drunken bar-fights as it always the same irascible drunks fighting the same people. They make up when sober, then get increasingly angry while drinking which will always result some ass beating – either theirs or somebody elses. I think this could be analogous to the black community – extremely poor and has limited resources and is filled with the “it’s all about me” mentality.
Taking this to feminists, they have used black people as not only a trial run for booting fathers out, but also their wombs. Understand that feminists are not fertile – they need other women to breed for them. I think part of the impetus is to create a class of breeding females to make up for their lack of reproducing. While many white women are used by them, feminists have also targeted blacks as a trial run. I don’t have the link so take this as you will, but I recall some article from Ms. Magazine in which the white feminist boasted of liberating the black female from the clutches of black male domination. I don’t know what the fuck she is talking about as black men, in America, have never had that right. White people were in control of blacks. As slaves, black men couldn’t prevent their master from fucking their wives or daughters. After being freed, what black man had hand to keep whites from fucking their wife? Think about it. She then intoned that feminists need to watch the black community as black women, as single mothers or non-mothers, will transform the black community in a very positive, proving women are the most important investment for society.
I’m going let that one go and refocus this fairly meandering opinion back on misogyny. Feminists are social constructionists and deeply and naively believe are socialized right, they bad stuff like rape will go away. I recall a black feminist going on Hannity and talking about rape culture. While I am not a fan, I remember him gently reminding her that evil will always exist and rape will never go away. It prompted a feminist response to support her, but understand the cracks in the narrative appeared. Some feminists angrily replied he supported rape culture with that comment. No, he said what he did because he recognized the immaturity of her comment. Unable to come to grips with evil committed by men in this world, she creates a false reality where the things she dislikes goes away. You feel the fear in the feminist articles as they toyed with accepting reality, but the hamster is strong and muscular in feminists. You know what they concluded – rape culture exists and rape will go away if it destroyed.
Which is my broader point that feminist are immature children. Let me bring in rape, sexual abuse and violence of fathers. Often times, feminist self-identify as having been raped and beaten by men. Feminists like to think their experiences speak to women as a class, but it doesn’t. It means that women, when confronted with terrible experiences don’t deal with them well. I don’t blame them ,as most people don’t have healthy responses to untoward circumstances – especially as a kid. Any female child subjected to abuse has a increased risk of becoming a feminist. Getting raped and becoming a feminist is an admission that she hasn’t come to terms with her rape. I understand the impetus to start resources for rape victims, sometimes that is the healthy way to deal with that. However, the whole framework of feminism and their response to abuse of women by men is fucked.
Let me draw on personal experience about being robbed. To this day, when under intense stress, I will have a dream about being robbed. I was a just a young kid, delivering pizzas in my hometown. I was just 18. I went the house and some dude asked me if I could break a 20. He told me the woman on the phone she we could. Before I knew it, some big ass black dude got behind me and “If you don’t behind the house right now n*gger I will drop your cracker ass right now.” I left the butt of gun in my backside. I complied and was lead back to two more guys in masks with one having a gun in his hand. He put the gun to my temple and said, “Give me the money n*gger” They started to verbally abuse me and forced me onto my knees and told me to beg for my life. I didn’t respond at first, but the guy cocked the gun and said that will do me right there if I don’t beg for my life like a bitch. I told them to take all my money, take it all. I don’t want to die. They say somebody walked down the street and they panicked and bolted but not before taking my 20 bucks. Class X Felony for 20 bucks. They were never caught. I framed the local story about my robbery and whenever I’m depressed or lazy I look at to remind me that I could be dead and not the have the opportunities I have right now.
My response was quick. I was angry and was yelling about dumbass n*ggers in my car. I checked myself and went to see the local pastor. Understand I didn’t regularly attend but he was a stand-up guy who I supremely respected. I went to the church and we talked for over three hours. He listened to me and I listened to him. He dropped some serious wisdom and gave me a big bear-hug after we talked, giving me his cell and email telling me to contact if I ever need anything. To this day, I will text him and he drops serious wisdom. That is a psychologically healthy response. I mentioned by initial racism because that is exactly what you don’t want to do – extrapolate to an entire group the actions of a few. You need to talk to people you trust and be honest about what you feel and what happened.
While women are never asking to be raped, they put themselves in positions to get raped. Like me, I was in a risky profession that has fatality rates the pace with cops and firefighters. I never asked to be robbed, but I knew there could be consequences. It applies to rape – women never ask for it, but they should know if they put themselves in bad situations. Getting drunk and walking home alone from the bar is a prime example. I spoke once here about a dude the followed my boy’s girl from the bar. When he walked into what he thought was her room, he encountered two dudes who were more than ready to kick is faggot ass. Fuck rapists. Motherfucker tried to tell us he was making sure she got home safe – you stop at her door you assfuck, you don’t follow into her personal bedroom while she is crying. She knew what was going down.
We comforted her, and she admitted she shouldn’t have walked home alone. I told her was right but to not blame herself. Just know you made a mistake and next time text a friend to escort you. Since she was just a couple blocks away at a bar, I would have met her at the bar to walk her back. I don’t care if some keyboard jockeys think that is white-knighting, I want to help my female friends. Which is my final point – degrees of misogyny.
I had a handle that I no longer use in the manosphere in which I relayed
this story. Some initial comments were supportive, but then some fools started to fault me for my white-knighting in wanted to help her from the bar. I said, straight up, if a female is my friend I will take care of her. I am not going to go out of my way, as she has other friends, but if it strikes me as reasonable I will help her. I am sick of these keyboard jockeys thinking ignoring or hating on women is cool. Like in that thread about women getting burned alive in a limo, some of those comments were sad. This isn’t a forum about women-hating – it is about self-improvement. That finishes my commentary on RVF, so take it as you will.
I want to address real misogyny. Some guys do hate women. Many more women hate men than men hate women – but why do a handful of men hate women? I think two approaches are necessary – sexual inadequacy and motherly abuse/neglect. Sexual inadequacy of misogynists might merit its own post. Understand that this a common approach for the unattractive- they hate on the desirable. Notice how ugly fatties hate on men – they become feminists. Fundamentally, if you hate either sex, you hate yourself. Feminists like to pretend that is they had a cock, their problems would go away. Hypergamy plays into that because they aren’t thinking of omegas with that thought – they are thinking of alphas. When men hate on women, they hate their sexuality and being a man. They may double down on current female privilege, using female educational privilege to explain away their intellectual or educational privileges.
Misogyny is generally a personal issue, unlike misandry that is peddled by feminists and some mainstream outlets. The problem is a critical mass of females emerged that had been wronged by men – or latched onto those women – and took a side issue nationwide. I remember one law professor recounting a story about women who would come to her office, crying about how they realize how bad women have it in society. Notice they pick weak women – women they can manipulate. Once in their clutches they can manipulate that woman as they wise. I noticed no hot woman ever came at her - only fatties and uglies. I had a short relationship with a cute Arab woman. She ended up being a bitch, but know she would never go out on weekends with that professor’s right-hand woman in law school. She pulled no punches saying that that law student was no more than a boner killer. She said early on in law school, that bitch would talk to guys about rape culture if they tried talking to their group. She was all about limiting access to the group. She eventually got into a relationship with some serious simp whom she controlled outright. I made a comment to her once about her domination of her relationship. Really bad move – that equalist hamster was supremely offended. My girl calmed her down, but know that she assumed her domination of her boyfriend was equal. Whatever.
Back on point, why do some men hate women? Sexual inadequacies aside, let’s talk about motherly abuse. Feminists often blame all men for their sexual abuse at the hands of fathers. They then blame all men for their issues. Men can do this too; they just don’t have the platform to do it. Men do it because they don’t want to deal with inappropriate female behavior. They want to pray it away by blaming all women for their issues. It is sad, but it is on point.
Misogyny develops not because of society but because of shitty parents. Society does not teach men or women to hate women – if anything; they teach them to hate men. I remember a middle school competition in which I was denied winning because a girl was second and girls need to win. I beat her ass straight-up and they held that participation ceremony at my expense. I remember holding my runner-up trophy while the teacher smiled at me, saying that girls are finally getting their recognition. That sort of shit breeds hatred of women. I focused on society instead of women, but I could have blamed women.
This uneven analysis ends here. I presented different approaches to feminist approaches to male hatred of women. It is not solid and needs to be rewritten. However, I hope some players on this forum can help me develop this piece.
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