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I gotta call you out on your second post about Russian guys as it borders on stereo-typing and since I don't think you've done much travel in Russia (if any) you should not make these broad generalizations.
there is some grain of truth to what you say.
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The second guy with the blonde actually looks ok, he might be skinny but he has a bit of the tough guy (skinhead) look which some of the women there like. To follow-up believe it or not a lot of EE women love the cavemen look that many Russian/Ukrainian/BeloRussian guys exhibit and unlike what the western media would tell you aren't really into pretty boys.
this is actually the point i'm making its not about my generalizations, its just a realization that you just reinforced and i have come to realize on my own the hard way and is something that is STILL hard for me to accept at times.
I have had many WTF moments when i see alot of this:
and 2 ukraine women i talked to confessing to me that ukraine and russian guys (espcially the guys in those smaller towns) aren't circumcised adds to my confusion and amazement too
and that is simply a culture of beautiful women whom are attracted to as you say "cavemen" looking slavic guys with the skin-head look. or just anorexic looking - mal nutrtioned men who have no game either who are abusive cheaters who drink too much.
it creates a false preception to the westerner that
"oh these dudes ain't nuthin' look at them, they're ugly, i can game these girls" but i find as you just point out that many of these ladies prefer this sexually. Yes to me its
bizzare, but hey its their culture..i don't have the right to judge.
In many instances i figured
"oh talking to this girl online or on skype won't be a problem, she's single and look at the pics of her last few boyfriends, they're all ugly skinny mal-nutritioned slavic guys and i got muscles and i'm decent looking, piece of cake!"
BOY WAS I WRONG.
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Also, the stereo-type of Russian guys being skinny, dressing poorly, and drinking too much becomes less and less of an issue once you start hitting high-end clubs where models are galore in large Russian cities. The western look can even back-fire in many places as one assume's that you might be a "sex-tourist" if you don't have your shit game in order.
In many clubs (not all though and thus the reason why most of us travel to find these hidden gems) your "foreigner status" ain't a big deal and you need to have a local hookup and some game to succeed.
i'm well aware of the importance of having good contacts and knowing the language and going to the correct place. as i said earlier. i also have come to realize that my "foreigner" status is actually in some places a liability and not an asset. Especially if i go to the wrong night club that is not welcome to foreigners or non-white men no matter how ugly the men there may be, because the ladies there might just be completely happy with these igor looking guys that they fuck on a regular basis.
i have a friend who is visiting Kiev this july and is renting an apartment and staying for a month and he is worried he won't score this time. but i said to him that he needs to learn russian and have a good excuse other than "vacation" to be there and then bring his A - game (get in the gym, upgrade his wardrobe) and re-visit his old contacts there. he is obviously just a "sex-tourist". even a female ukraine girl who speaks english and knows my friend said he is
"just here to fuck the girls...he approaches this the wrong way, he will get rejected"
and i agreed with her. he is too damn obvious. and i use my friend as an example of what not to do and that i need to devise a clever way to not be so damn obvious and that gives me a good reason to be there
(preferably business related) and have better contacts and know their language.. and my russian language is progressing nicely
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Btw, I've seen some of your other posts and it looks like you always listen to what women from online dating websites like Mamba tell you. That is an issue in itself, as more often than not you will find things completely different on the ground. For example, online women are automatically receptive of foreigners and know some level of English, BUT tend to be frequently dissatisfied with their lives thus they look online for love. The women who were successful and generally beautiful that I met in Poland, Ukraine, and Russia when I traveled in the past required quite a bit of work and as mentioned before did not complain about their local men or care much for my foreign status (although they did enjoy the money part)...LoL
The military has a term called "Boots on the Ground" which I seriously recommend you read about and I also recommend you visit EE at least several times and then run through the gauntlet of gold-diggers, racism from local guys, crooks, scams, club 20 year olds who've already been "pumped and dumped" many times and have mental issues, and countless pro's which some of us on these forums have had to deal with then you can give some great tips but right now I think it is too early for you to make these statements.
i agree that i must visit these places extensively before i say anything. so you got me there, and you are right but there is such a thing as
"doing your homework" first. right?
many of the people i talk to are a mixture of ukranians and russians -male and female who are tying to learn english. they're very open and candid with me about their culture and what happens there and why.
i also talk to african guys who live in these places and american guys like yourself who have visited there extensively. i have talked to many girls on skype and i ask them alot of questions too. I'm also friends with a few guys who teach english in Moscow. So much of what i say is based on my own rejection rate against those ugly slavic guys, and then what the people
"on the ground" tell me.
But i do agree that there are SOME decent looking slavic dudes once we go up to the more high-end parts of town. a girl i know who lives in st.petersburg told me this,
the men in those places who carry themselves alittle better look alot better. but she complained to me that majority of them have ugly bodies. so when people "on the ground" reinforce what i see with my own eyes then one can only draw conclusions. right? i'm i 100% accurate? ofcourse not. that's why you are here to correct me when i say incorrect things.