[BLarsen]

Quote:

Let elderly people 'hurry up and die', says Japanese minister

Japan's new government is barely a month old, and already one of its most senior members has insulted tens of millions of voters by suggesting that the elderly are an unnecessary drain on the country's finances.

Taro Aso, the finance minister, said on Monday that the elderly should be allowed to "hurry up and die" to relieve pressure on the state to pay for their medical care.

"Heaven forbid if you are forced to live on when you want to die. I would wake up feeling increasingly bad knowing that [treatment] was all being paid for by the government," he said during a meeting of the national council on social security reforms. "The problem won't be solved unless you let them hurry up and die."

I'll apply my American attitude to this question.

Medicare and Social Security are unsustainable over the long term. When Social Security was implemented the average pensioner would only live long enough to withdraw 3 or 4 years worth of benefits. Nowadays it's over 20 years.

They've increased the retirement age, but it's still not enough. Out of control defense spending, social security and medicare will bankrupt this country.

That's a purely capitalist point of view.

From a compassionate point of view I think it's shameful how Americans treat the elderly and children. It's a page straight out of the Communist Manifesto; unless you can demonstrably affect the bottom line you're considered completely worthless. Children are considered to be a burden. The elderly are shipped off to nursing homes and adult day care.

Back in the day the old school social contract was enforced; your parents take care of you when you're young and you take care of them when they're old. Not anymore. I have 3 kids and I'm not expecting any of them to do a damn thing for me. I'm going to purchase long term care insurance. And I hope my parents do the same.

The capitalist in me sees this as very intelligent. The compassionate human being in me sees this as an utter disgrace.

Does old people owe it to society to die and not suck up resources?

What do you think? Comments?

[Aliblahba]

Well let's look at the current situation. The generation that is dying is The Greatest Generation. The deserve to live forever. The Baby Boomers are for the most part useless and should leapfrog ahead one step. But even then, the youngest group out there has set a record for worldwide uselessness. I doubt you'll see a useful invention, leader, or anything but fuzzy hats and faces drawn in latte foam come from them.

The sad part is they won't have the intelligence or gumption to kill themselves off, so my badass generation will have to take office, start a war, impose a draft, and do it the hard way.

[JimNortonFan]

Baby Boomers leached off the greatest, then ripped off their kids.

Scum.

[A War You Cannot Win]

When the great food riots start and the government gets around to implementing the soylent green program, they should use the baby boomers as the main ingredient. All they even did was piss on what the Greatest Generation did and buddy fuck their own children.

[LEMONed IScream]

Change the system, remove taxes and allow people to save money when they retire as they please and when they please.

[el mechanico]

Here we go with the boomers again. Stop whining and go get a job. Nobody owes you shit!

[bacon]

I think the Obamacare death pannels are going to take care of them.

[Aliblahba]

(05-04-2013 09:14 AM)A War You Cannot Win Wrote:  

they should use the baby boomers as the main ingredient.

Meals served:

1."Not so tender" Tenderman

2. MrXY "am I eating this"

3. "Particle meat" ala Emech

4. Monte Cassino "quiche"

5. "T" bonedaddy

6. Germanico "Jubilee"

Nasty. I may just have to go vegan when this happens.

(05-04-2013 09:24 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

Here we go with the boomers again. Stop whining and go get a job. Nobody owes you shit!

What jobs? The "booby doomers" sent all the jobs to China, Mexico, and Canada. You guys owe the rest of reparations!

(05-04-2013 09:26 AM)bacon Wrote:  

I think the Obamacare death pannels are going to take care of them.

Yeah, the boomers seem to think we'll take care of them when their old. We'll send them to a nursing home.....oh wait, there will be no nursing homes. Ohnozzzzz. Where will they go? Answer below.






















   

[el mechanico]

I'm not a baby boomer fool. They are guilty of raising beta kids though. You betas want jobs? Create them.

[JimNortonFan]

I have a job. I earn money that doesn't go to me. Instead it goes to pay debts I didn't incur.

[el mechanico]

(05-04-2013 10:00 AM)JimNortonFan Wrote:  

I have a job. I earn money that doesn't go to me. Instead it goes to pay debts I didn't incur.

Really? What debt are you paying? Some old guys Visa card?

[Samseau]

(05-04-2013 10:00 AM)JimNortonFan Wrote:  

I have a job. I earn money that doesn't go to me. Instead it goes to pay debts I didn't incur.

And the money you earn is being devalued by the day to pay for a government no one can afford.

[Samseau]

(05-04-2013 10:02 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(05-04-2013 10:00 AM)JimNortonFan Wrote:  

I have a job. I earn money that doesn't go to me. Instead it goes to pay debts I didn't incur.

Really? What debt are you paying? Some old guys Visa card?

Almost 17 trillion

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogi...ication=np

[JimNortonFan]

Taxes to pay interest on the national debt. The Boomers figured out they could borrow money fromt heir kids to have a better lifestyle. They are scum.

[tenderman100]

Hey, I am a baby boomer. And I have worked my ass off. I have three degrees. I have held corporate jobs, started two businesses, running one now.

I haven't taken a fuckin' nickle from the government. But I have sure PAID the government a lot. All along I have contributed to social security and medicare/medicaid. Income taxes. Sales taxes.

Trust me there are LOT of us baby boomers out there who have yet to take a single dime from you 20-30 somethings, so quit the moaning about my generation.

Meanwhile, ever heard of the Pizza Principle? It's this.

If I've pitched in some, do I get a slice?

I'd be happy to take a smaller slice if it means making sure others aren't fucked over. A lot of us out there would, trust me.

[Samseau]

I don't see how people can blame baby boomers when my generation is worse in almost every way... the fucked up boomers raised a even bigger bunch of fuckups. Most of my generation are flaming homo liberal... it's awful. That's why I have no hope for the country, this place is toast.

[Monte Cassino]

I guess I'm a baby boomer since I am in my 50's. What's the fucking problem? You whiners can't find decent jobs? Quit studying shit like "Communications" and "Women's Studies" in college. Study some hard shit like engineering.

Can't locate women to fuck? Put away your fucking video games and your porn and get off of the couch.

Feeling Beta? Well learn how to do some simple man shit for starters like changing a flat tire and fixing a toilet. Then maybe some of the women won't think you are such a wimp.

You are owed nothing. And that's your fucking problem, y'all think you are "owed," but you ain't. And as long you think that, you will be a fucking loser and will get loser pussy.

And by the way, since I hire your generation, I can smell your bullshit on your resumes a mile away. You ain't fooling anybody.

[JimNortonFan]

Produce more than you consume: Plus

Consume more than you produce: scum

Exceptions made for the disabled

[Samseau]

(05-04-2013 10:16 AM)Monte Cassino Wrote:  

I guess I'm a baby boomer since I am in my 50's. What's the fucking problem? You whiners can't find decent jobs? Quit studying shit like "Communications" and "Women's Studies" in college. Study some hard shit like engineering.

Can't locate women to fuck? Put away your fucking video games and your porn and get off of the couch.

Feeling Beta? Well learn how to do some simple man shit for starters like changing a flat tire and fixing a toilet. Then maybe some of the women won't think you are such a wimp.

You are owed nothing. And that's your fucking problem, y'all think you are "owed," but you ain't. And as long you think that, you will be a fucking loser and will get loser pussy.

And by the way, since I hire your generation, I can smell your bullshit on your resumes a mile away. You ain't fooling anybody.

Baby boomers who act tough are amusing, however. You had your lives handed to you on a silver platter and think you're tough.

Get real, bro. If the boomers are so successful, why haven't they retired yet?



Because the fed's are printing money, it means the value of your savings are going down, which means you need to keep working, which in turn keeps out the younger generation from finding jobs.

There is no one generation to blame for this, but you can't pretend you're not at fault either.

[Kingsley Davis]

Boomer hamsters, lollzzz.

[A War You Cannot Win]

I do have a job. I'm in the military lololololzzzzzlol to fight da battlez my gobermint engages in to proliferate da richez of da Bernakified mastaz who then take my moneyz and devalue it while desouling and butt cocking my womenz lolokolololokz

[rudebwoy]

Blame Blame Blame.

[A War You Cannot Win]

Of course there's someone to blame. In fact there's a lot of people to blame. Some are connected, some aren't. We must learn from their sins and errors so the next great country doesn't repeat the same cycle of madness and destruction we have turned to.

[Sherman]

Ok, we'll take back the Internet, and then you will really have something to cry about.

[A War You Cannot Win]

I think that would actually be a step towards enlightening the current and future generations.