[soup]

(05-02-2013 07:13 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Body movements, attire, accent, hair, bling, boots, travel stories, humor, interaction with others, drink in hand, ect.

These are things that are used to communicate value.

[Aliblahba]

(05-02-2013 07:14 PM)soup Wrote:  

(05-02-2013 07:13 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Body movements, attire, accent, hair, bling, boots, travel stories, humor, interaction with others, drink in hand, ect.

These are things that are used to communicate value.

No their not. Different doesn't equal value.

[soup]

(05-02-2013 07:22 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

(05-02-2013 07:14 PM)soup Wrote:  

(05-02-2013 07:13 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

Body movements, attire, accent, hair, bling, boots, travel stories, humor, interaction with others, drink in hand, ect.

These are things that are used to communicate value.

No their not. Different doesn't equal value.

Different is good, but there are plenty of guys who look different who don't have girls opening them.

Body movements- alpha body movements, not beta.. reads as high value

Attire- fashionable attire that works for you is going to turn heads. Why? If you were something that looks good on you it means it fits you well. There is intentionality in it. You wear something that lets girls know that you are in the know. It shows social intelligence, which is a marker of high value. Or, you are wearing stuff that shows off your body.. it probably reminds them of their pussy getting stretched.

Hair- healthy head of hair reads as sexually potent, strong.. all characteristics of high value males.

Travel stories- this is the textbook vehicle for demonstrating high value

humor- shows social intelligence.. value

interactions with others- why? She's sees that you are the man. A high value man that knows how to handle other people and possibly her.

Drink in hand.. it depends. If you cross your drink over your chest it looks like you scarred. If you hold you drink in a way that makes you body available, it shows that you aren't worried about anything; like a king or lion, you can do what ever you want.. power and value.

[Aliblahba]

I can't help you soup. You're not ready to let go of fuzzy hats. Everything you type sounds like it came off a "buy this blog and get laid from the greatest players. It's top secret, and you only have one hour or this offer will be gone" website. Fight it soup.

[soup]

I never said I wear fussy hats, Ali.

If you don't like what I write, then don't read it.

I've never promoted any of the shit you just said. What's with the beef? Did I write something that pissed you off ?

[Neuron]

(05-02-2013 06:46 PM)soup Wrote:  

Girls are only going to open you if they think you have a lot of value. Does anyone disagree? How else are you going to be the prize?

So, unless they think that, you are going to have to open them.

I think only certain types of females will open you. Generally the naturally gregarious and/or drunk ones. Most girls project their own habit to reject 99% of the male population onto those they find attractive and don't do it.

[Aliblahba]

I'm not mad at you soup, just trying to help you become a player. Us heavy hitters think outside the box. Try watching Men Who Stare At Goats. You have to learn the fluidity of life, and go with the flow. Don't try to swim upstream, or you'll get eaten by a bear.

[soup]

(05-03-2013 09:11 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

I'm not mad at you soup, just trying to help you become a player. Us heavy hitters think outside the box. Try watching Men Who Stare At Goats. You have to learn the fluidity of life, and go with the flow. Don't try to swim upstream, or you'll get eaten by a bear.

What do you mean by heavy hitter?

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

Come on Ali, stop bringing Mystery into everything. Soup didn't, so I'm perplexed why you're hounding him.

As for being approached, only male superstars experience the levels of being approached without doing anything at all (yes, that excludes intentional peacocking and etc) that an average girl experiences. But even average guys get approached occasionally, and must know game to channel these opportunities into further interaction. It would be fatalist to fall into the trap of envying all those unattainable positions and just declare that men never get approached.

It's certainly happened to me a few times as well, and I'm not physically attractive, tall, rich, well-dressed or whatnot, nor was I situationally famous. I was just drinking and minding my own business. It happens. It's just way, way too rare to be counted upon or save a guy without an excellent conversion rate - and such a guy would already be approaching and getting bangs anyway.

[Smoky-cos]

I'll tell you what is a paradox. Taking time to text back vs. keeping up a good conversation/vibe. It always turns into some sort of war that no one wins.

[xmlenigma]

You WANT her.
Not NEED her.

[20Nation]

There is a natural chase pattern that goes through a relationship.
Guy talks to girl - Guy Chases
Guy goes for sex - Guy Chases
Guy gets sex - Guy starts being chased
Relationship - Balance

I don't care what these other guys say, if a girl opens you, you start out in a much better situation. However, sometimes that's not practical, as most girls won't do this even if they are attracted to you. So if you want to make the hookup more of a sure thing you want to break the natural order of things and get her chasing you. You can do that a lot of ways like making statements of dis-interest, or starting with really open body language then start making your body language go cold. These things will change the natural flow of a relationship and put you in power for the beginning stages when a girl is usually the one being chased. If I successfully switch a girl over to chasing me, it nearly guarantees I get what I want.

[jimukr104]

(05-01-2013 07:49 AM)Marcellus Wrote:  

It is not a paradox. An alphaman is attractive to girls by nature and they get approached by girls. Remember it are the girls who play the game. They are hardwired to manage relationships. Guys are hardwired to build the world.
In nightclubs you see hot girls approach guys; often guys that are surrounded by other hot girls or the guys with a high social value.

By direct approaching you show you have balls, but you also show your neediness and your low-value. If you had value you wouldn't be approaching to get chicks. You can notice the quality of the girls players get are average at best. I never have seen a player pull a highclass girl. Read Roosh his recent post about the Warsaw king. Roosh discovered this recently.

Most guys in the manosphere think they are alpha's. They are not. They are sigma's. An alpha does zero-work and gets girls by just being him. The girls approach him, they make they are introduced to the alpha. The alpha chooses. That's how nature and human relationships works. Even for Beta's this is true. How many friends or fathers have approached their girlfriend/wife themselves? It's the woman who put's the social construct to work to get the man of her choice.

That's why in environments with tight social cohesion (Portugal/Spain/Greece...) it's very hard to get girls by cold-approaching. In the US/UK where onenightstands and binge drinking are accepted this can work to pull 5's or 6's. Not higher.

That's a pretty Narrow minded view. Basically in Western Anglo society, Girls usually only approach whom they find good looking based on hollywood/media brainwashing .Are you going to tell me ALL THESE GUYS ARE ALPHA? lol. nonsense.
There are plenty of beta ,shy good looking guys .Based on your view men who are average looking, below avg and even below a 10 are not alpha's. From my experience women come on strong when they see their ideal prince holly wood looking pretty boy.
What about foreign countries? In most of the world the women will not do anything to participate in the seduction so guys MUST approach.
In some SA countries old fat guys get approached who are foreigners .Based on your view they are ALPHA.
Alpha is a mentality, a way of life .You don't have the luxury of being an ALPHA just because mommy and daddy offspring happened to look handsome. Often though good looking people do develop the confidence and other traits that make them Alpha.
BTW most guys I know who got married /ltr approached the girls . The ones who got approached first ended up with girls who are LOWER in attractiveness than they are. That makes me conclude that passive good looking guys actually can get and will get worst looking babes by standing around doing nothing.

[XY.]

U are honey and they are flies. get it, honey?

no homo lol

[Hammer]

In that post you linked about women approaching, it's true but in a general sense. Many women(most) won't engage this is true. But that doesn't mean that women won't approach you. I remember the first time I worked a room, all eyes on me, everyone feeding off my vibe. I was approached, had a SNL and carried over the energy to snag another chick. I'm no one special, but if you want to "be the prize" and get approached you have to give off something special at the right time. A rockstar quality even if it's just flash in the pan. If you want an analogy I guess you could say approaching is like picking flowers, uprooting them and putting them where you want, sure they might like it in the end but they might not, it's hit or miss. Being the prize however is like being the sun, you're mere presence makes all the flowers turn towards you, and many will rise to the occasion even at the expense of other lesser flowers to bask in your radiance.