[3agle 3yes]

This is one thing that I think just about everyone here has thought about at one time. I know I have.

This mindset isn't the best.

You're giving too much importance to women. Sex with many women isn't something that should be thought about it, or seen as successful, it is something that just happens.

A man by nature is masculine, women are feminine...everyone knows this. But many forget the masculine is dominant and the feminine is submissive. A dominant personality isn't reactionary, a feminine one is. Women are meant to be the ones who do things for dick NOT the other way round.

This is why women are attracted to men who are aloof (and why it's specifically western women). They perceive these men as better than them. They think to themselves "They should be fucking someone better than me, they should be doing something better than spending time with me" etc.

Groupies think this when they bangs musicians.

A man is ALWAYS someone who has something better to do. And fucks women when he has time off.

This may sound like a loser, however, I believe a real man fucks and can fuck just about anyone he wants at anytime but CHOOSES to do so when everything else is done.

Every time a girl calls me to come over to her house (with obvious intentions to fuck) I decline and give her an excuse (I have better things to do). I go over when I want to, not because she asks.

A man who learns game and bangs multiple women at every chance is a man, granted, but a very BASIC man. He's basic because he has no discipline, no control over his emotions and no direction.

Banging tons of women is great, but all that matters is HAVING THE ABILITY to bang tons of women.

I agree with GreenGranted, however I'll add, a goal (short or long term) is usually something you want to do but believe you can't (or are doubtful of) for some reason or another.

[Tenerife]

(01-14-2013 07:42 AM)Captain Ahab Wrote:  

If you are using your passion to get pussy then that is not your passion; it is a subterfuge for your sexual frustration.

Quentin Tarentino didn't stop writing screenplays and making movies when he got famous.

Ernest Hemingway had a typewriter in his place long after he won the Nobel Prize in literature and was famous all around the world.

Kanye West didn't stop making music after he became famous and banged tons of chicks, if anything he saw the emotional emptiness of the success his passion got him and thus created the album My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy.

I agree with much of your post, but this argument here doesn't really hold. Of course after initial breakthrough success a man is going to keep at his craft. The hard work of obtaining exposure and name recognition has been accomplished, now it's time to keep pumping out the material. If you "fall off" and become a has-been, pussy can definitely stop flowing. A one hit wonder musician can still tour years later, but frankly, just because they "keep going" doesn't mean they're doing it purely for the love and not for the status/pussy.

And also, I totally understand that there is enjoyment from hobbies outside of getting pussy, but is there enough motivation to truly succeed with these hobbies? Being "perfectly balanced" often times leads to mediocrity, not achievement. To truly achieve something in one field, skill, or pursuit you HAVE to be unbalanced, and sacrifice a large part of your life.

For example, there's an interview with Eddie Van Halen where he's asked how he got so good at guitar. He basically said through all of school he was a guy who sat in his room while all his friends went out to party and drink and get girls. He would be playing when they left to go party, and when they get back, he would still be there with his guitar.

Of course the pussy flood gates were opened when he became a rock superstar, but how many guys are like that and don't succeed? Tons.

I'm not really talking about whether a man should have hobbies for "balance" in life. I'm talking about whether a man should really make the hard sacrifice of trying to achieve in some endeavor, or just chase pussy. I guess there's no really good answer.

Kurt Cobain is an example of a guy who massively achieved, but had such a warped feminist mindset that he completely surpressed his sexual needs as a man. Billy Corgan was likely sleeping with Courtney Love when he blew his brains out. That's an example of a guy not taking advantage of fame for sex.

[Aliblahba]

(01-13-2013 10:13 AM)temujin Wrote:  

Hot pussy never gets old.

CHASING hot pussy does get old.

There's a difference.

I learned this the hard way last year. Big eye opener and one that will change the way I travel from now on.

[Cincinnatus]

This thread makes me think of a great post by Caligula, which houston uses as a signature.

Quote:

If chasing pussy feels like you're constantly trying to fill a void you're doing it wrong. Spend time focusing on other aspects of your life before going back on the prowl. The playboy lifestyle shouldn't be like that.

It's good to have separate passions from chasing skirt. I'm pretty sure Roosh even wrote that what we read is only 15% of his life.

[Tenerife]

(01-14-2013 10:20 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

(01-13-2013 10:13 AM)temujin Wrote:  

Hot pussy never gets old.

CHASING hot pussy does get old.

There's a difference.

I learned this the hard way last year. Big eye opener and one that will change the way I travel from now on.

elaborate.

[rivelino]

(01-12-2013 02:47 PM)Tenerife Wrote:  

I've been traveling the world for 5 months straight, chasing girls, getting laid, partying etc.

I haven't been worrying about my cash flow because of an online business with automated income.

I'm getting more pussy than ever here in East Asia as a white guy, without having achieved anything.

1. this is the best humblebrag i've read in a while. nice.

2. you've achieved an online business that generates automated, or passive, income. that is HUGE.

3. so who says you haven't achieved anything? you've achieved A LOT. most men are stuck in their cubicles, hoping for a half day off, like tom anderson said. you've achieved automated cash flow, have had the courage to leave your home country, go to new countries where you are exotic and different, and have the MONEY and the FREE TIME to party and fuck.

4. most men, as you know, have one or the other. money or free time. you've achieved both.

5. of course, you only wrote this post because you are feeling uneasy about having fun. are you catholic by any chance? catholics are instilled with a lot of guilt. i am personally working on getting over my own catholic guilt.

6. my advice. try to forget the guilt, and just party like a rock star. fuck like a champion.

7. if in 3 months, you are still feel that uneasy feeling, try a new hobby: taking pictures of all the girls you are fucking. buy a DSLR, take b/w pictures of all these girls on your bed, against the wall, sucking your dick, whatever. i agree that most of us get into art too impress girls and to fuck more girls, but ultimately, art is its own reward. plus taking pictures of naked girls creates a nice photo diary. when you are 80, you can look back at your prime.

congrats on your success man.

[Captain Ahab]

(01-14-2013 10:17 PM)Tenerife Wrote:  

I agree with much of your post, but this argument here doesn't really hold. Of course after initial breakthrough success a man is going to keep at his craft. The hard work of obtaining exposure and name recognition has been accomplished, now it's time to keep pumping out the material. If you "fall off" and become a has-been, pussy can definitely stop flowing. A one hit wonder musician can still tour years later, but frankly, just because they "keep going" doesn't mean they're doing it purely for the love and not for the status/pussy.

But you are assuming you know why they keep touring which is your assumption, not fact.

And keep in mind you assume the one hit wonder musicians are doing it for sex, but I disagree in that they keep going because they love their craft, whether they are on the cover of Rolling Stone or they are working the bar/club circuit like when they first started out.

Dave Chappelle gave up a large paycheck, fame, money, status (atleast at a much higher level than now) when he gave up The Chappelle Show and decided to pursue what he enjoyed more than the popularity of his show, doing stand up.

There are numerous examples of men giving up great heights of fame, money, and sex in order to pursue their passion. Not everybody is obsessed with obtaining sex, though I agree there are some who may be in it just for the sex and money.

(01-14-2013 10:17 PM)Tenerife Wrote:  

And also, I totally understand that there is enjoyment from hobbies outside of getting pussy, but is there enough motivation to truly succeed with these hobbies? Being "perfectly balanced" often times leads to mediocrity, not achievement. To truly achieve something in one field, skill, or pursuit you HAVE to be unbalanced, and sacrifice a large part of your life.

Yes, doing the hobby is enough motivation to keep doing it if you love what you do. It is enough motivation if it is your passion.

To be a nestor in one's field does require a huge amount of time.

The degree of sacrifice of time, which includes missing out on friends, family, lovers, etc, to obtain a high level of proficiency in one's practice can be detrimental to one's emotional health. However, more than likely, the "genius" would see that the other areas of his life outside of his art would be a waste of time so judgement is in the eye of the beholder on whether it is worth sacrificing so much of one's life to obtain expert level proficiency.

Hemingway said in his Nobel Prize speech that "Writing, at its best, is a lonely life." And I agree.

But it was a lonely life HE wanted. Whether the topic creator wants that for himself is up to him.

I think it is safe to say that most people who pursue their passion to the point of having a "lonely life" are already mentally ill and it is there behavior that is a result of their mental illness (writing for ten hours a day, everyday, for the rest of their lives, shooting a basketball into a hoop nine hours a day, etc).

For instance my examples:

Tarantino is a little loony for sure. Many believe he has Asperger's syndrome.

Captain Ahab was insane...

Hemingway was at the very least manic depressive, very eccentric man (living in a house alone filled with tons of cats), killed himself.

Jordan and Kanye are very egotistical, narcissistic, and bitter men. They are walking douche bags who are notorious for treating people like shit.

I guess an answer can be no. It is not worth going insane to become a creative genius. But if one is mentally ill and pursue it anyway there is nothing that person can do since they are controlled by their mental disorder.

I guess since the topic creator is trying to arrive at this decision rationally he is better off chasing women since a truly crazy person wouldn't even entertain the thought of sacrificing his creative endeavor whatsoever.

(01-14-2013 10:17 PM)Tenerife Wrote:  

I'm not really talking about whether a man should have hobbies for "balance" in life. I'm talking about whether a man should really make the hard sacrifice of trying to achieve in some endeavor, or just chase pussy. I guess there's no really good answer.

I see some compartmentalizing.

It is not an all or nothing sorta deal. Life is more nuanced than that. One can make time for sex, passion, work, exercise, etc. It may take a certain amount of time management but it can be done.

But you are right that there is no "right" answer since it is subjective so trying to find a solution through rational argument is futile.

[Giovonny]

I would say that most men need at least one more hobby, maybe two. Just to spice things up and break the monotony of banging broads.

Doing the same thing everyday is boring. I like to mix it up:

1) Chasing pussy
2) Basketball
3) Food
4) Music
5) Soccer
6) Friends
7) Yoga
8) Tennis
9) Nature
10) Bodybuilding
11) Boxing/MMA
12) Reading/Studying
13) Self Improvement

I like a little variety sometimes. Even better to combine many of these things together. My favorite moments are playing basketball with friends, with music playing, bbq smoking, girls in bikinis watching, at an outdoor park near the beach, in the summer. After I woke up and banged a cutie, read the RVF, and made juice.

For me, this is more fun then:

Bang cutie, sleep, bang cutie, eat, sleep, bang cutie, eat, shit, shower, sleep, bang cutie, go for walk, go out to dinner, bang cutie, sleep, bang cutie, eat.

Actually, I don't know which is better now???

Those are fun 3 day periods where all you do is bang your girl, eat, sleep, and workout. In my experience, it does get old after a week or 2. You want to go play ball with your friends, go build something, go fishing, go bowling, go to the movies, go hiking, go to the gym, go drinking, anything..

I'm saving the following things for when I get older -- BBQing, Golf, Poker, Coffee, Milfs,