[Grit]

Have these riots resulted in a lot of murders and violent deaths?

Have the police started apprehending people on the street and beating them with batons outside of the obvious riots, in daily life?

Would wearing certain clothing, insignia, or bling make you a target to the mob?

Is this rioting related to race? Would you be profiled going out in public?

Are you going to be drafted to fight against your comrade countrymen?

Are you married with small children?


If you can't give a hard definitive yes to any of these questions, why are you worried? Don't be a pussy, quit crying. If you are a single guy, you have nothing to lose by laying low and doing your own thing. Remember- those assholes in government spent excessively, not you. Put a boot up their ass if they try to blame you or tax you into debt. Else do your own thang and work on waking up your friends to the obvious truths and realities that Rooshvforum gives freely.

[pitt]

(11-18-2012 05:32 PM)Grit Wrote:  

Have these riots resulted in a lot of murders and violent deaths?

Have the police started apprehending people on the street and beating them with batons outside of the obvious riots, in daily life?

Would wearing certain clothing, insignia, or bling make you a target to the mob?

Is this rioting related to race? Would you be profiled going out in public?

Are you going to be drafted to fight against your comrade countrymen?

Are you married with small children?


If you can't give a hard definitive yes to any of these questions, why are you worried? Don't be a pussy, quit crying. If you are a single guy, you have nothing to lose by laying low and doing your own thing. Remember- those assholes in government spent excessively, not you. Put a boot up their ass if they try to blame you or tax you into debt. Else do your own thang and work on waking up your friends to the obvious truths and realities that Rooshvforum gives freely.

Exactly

[rudebwoy]

An example of the situation:

A lady in Balboa in Northern Spain jumped from her 4th floor balcony to her death. She was only 53 years old and leaves behind a 21 year old daughter who's life will now also be devastated as well as her husband. The lady was employed at the local bus depot so was not unemployed. So what pushed her mind over the edge?

The bailiffs!

As they approached the building to evict her for failing to pay her mortgage, she just snapped and jumped.

Home owners in Spain face far greater risks than others in many countries. If a home owner in Spain is unable to make the agreed mortgage payments through unemployment, low income or whatever, he or she can get evicted, but the catch is that they still remain liable to repay whatever value is left on the mortgage after the repossession.

Now if I were to tell you that this is not an isolated incident and suicides are on the rise at frightening pace what would you say?

The truth is that there are 500 evictions across Spain every day and they are on the increase. It is just another example of fallout from the draconian austerity measures.

The same will be happening where you live but your government and media are reluctant to inform you.

In Oct. Jose Miguel Domingo also 53, was found dead in the courtyard of his building in Granada moments after bailiffs appeared to evict him. Barely a day later yet another 53-year-old man who had been unemployed for a few years jumped out of his apartment window in the town of Burjassot as his eviction date loomed. He survived but with serious long term injuries

[kosko]

The current systems are in collapse in your country. you people will push back but ultimately get worse punishments put in place (people vote in more and more authoritarian leaders as things deteriorate as a last hope to get things back to the Status Quo).

Think about why people are in the streets... they want things back to how they were.. think about that for a second...

Now the Gov't is pushing back because they can not give that way of life back (and they have no intention of ever doing so). Its a broken record that many country's fall into. When things deteriorate, especially Economically people while out and do dumb things collectively. They have every means to push back and riot against the Government but be weary of your peoples collective motives as they may not be in your best interests as a Young Male. Things will only go positive if Spain takes the steps of Iceland to take over the political process to go after and charge the Bankers, Politicians, and Bureaucrats that knowingly robed and pillages its people. If your Country is not shifting towards this then start your escape plan, and start to make sure your family is taking care off.

These are times when Americans should be strategic in plotting their future moves. Americans books are ten times worse then anything Spain or any of the other PIGS are dealing with. The Government will start to extract and pull away entitlements, programs, and dependencies just like Spain, the UK and other EU nations. Take the steps now while there is "calm" before the Storm to make sure you have a legit game plan to escape or stay when the Gov't starts to throw its boot down.

[Parlay44]

That's what you get for adopting the Euro. Instead of having a small contained local economy, you opened up your economy to the greater banks of Europe. Europe barely produces anything to export to the world. All their income come from foreign money ...aka tourism. Any wealth you have is old family property passed down through the generations. By joining the greater economy you expose yourself to the thieving bankers. They stole your family wealth.

[Dr. Howard]

Just watching the second video of police. Too bad mobs are 'mobs' with no organization, strategy or coordination. The police use the same tactics seen over and over again. Push forward, pinch and pull to police vans anyone who falls and ends up behind the police line. In this case they get overzealous and 1 or 2 cops break rank and head into the crowd, they are risking being cut off but everyone is too busy running and pulling up their skinny jeans to think twice.

If the OP wants change for the 'people', its not going to happen soon while disorganized hipsters are leading the charge. I'd leave, wait it out on the sidelines and look for business opportunities in your home country as things start to cool down.

(11-18-2012 12:28 PM)spanish_courage Wrote:  

My country really is sinking like the titanic...and I'm starting to worrying a lot..

as you can see..

Fortunately I don't have economic problems, I live very well,but the situation that surrounds me is becoming worst with the pass of the time.

Nowadays I'm 21 years old and studying an university degree and I expect to finish the last year of career abroad in "Erasmus program",and I can choose the country of Eastern Europe I prefer.

I have good presence and I'm good loking,so fitness modelling can be an option in the future and maybe I could introduce in the circle of the big or small screen at TV shows and movies,that's also one of my dreams.


Since I was a kid i thought in a different way and that's good for me because I'm reaching the financial independence and I could work online abroad everywhere.

I have a good entrepreneurship mentality,so I want to surround if it is possible with people like me.

¿so..what would you do in my situation? I wait your advices..

[Anon-A-Moose]

Your country had a civil war what, 80 years ago? Think about history, think about now, and ask yourself if it really matches up. Like I feel sometimes that I"ve had a shitty life, and then I think about my grandfather's life (fighting over midway at the age of 16, growing up in an abusive household in the great depression), and realize shit ain't that bad.
History takes crazy situations and puts em into perspective. I'd not worry about it. Besides you live in EU, it'd be easy to move somewhere nearby--France, Germany, Portugal, Britain, etc. Worry about you, and ignore RT, it's a bunch of half-propagandized bullshit.

[bojangles]

the problem with Spain isnt your government, it's your local state governments, they wasted millions on infrastructure and culture projects. Your government was running a tight surplus for many years whilst regional governments continually spent more than they earned. The knock on effect occured when these regional governments couldnt pay their creditors and needed bailouts from the national government leading to harsher austerity measures. the property boom did not help at all but the UK was in a similar situation lates 80's early 90s and got out of it. Just be careful yourself with your money even if those around are not.

[mistermister]

have you considered moving to canada or the US ?

if you're good looking and have good chunk of change you may be able to have a marriage of convenience there by granting you a green card or permanent resident status in canada. things like this often sort them selves out. may be worth leaving the country for sometime and coming back home.

just remember you always have options

[tenderman100]

(11-18-2012 05:13 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(11-18-2012 04:51 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

I think Spain's suffering is more destiny than karmic. It's the fate of all empires. Even "good" empires like America that didn't directly participate in any genocide (that we know of) will go down the same road.

(11-18-2012 02:41 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

I think the United States, my own country, is bound to reap the costs of similar actions one day too.

As I mentioned above, I think America will pay the cost of its own hubris in other ways. While they didn't participate in a "genocide" in the traditional, strict definition of the term, American imperialism throughout the twentieth century was pretty fucked up. The United States killed or otherwise fucked over a lot of people through proxy wars, assassinations, and secret meddling. The list of countries is very long, and it's one of the least known and poorly understood chapters of American history. I love my country, but I don't love everything that it's done.

In many ways 9/11 was blow back for this type of behavior and, depending on how you look at it, it inflicted damage on the American culture and economy that we're still feeling today. We never recovered after that shit.

So in a way, this really is just the old empires-hyper-extend-themselves-sooner-or-later argument all over again, yes.

America also

--Crushed two totalitarian genocidal governments in Nazi Germany and the Empire of Japan, rescuing both Europe and the Far East from empires far worse than ANY empire (if you could call it an empire) that the USA had.

--Waited out, fought against, and eventually triumphed over another genocidal empire, the Soviet Union, an empire that may have killed more people than any in the history of mankind.

You are right not to love everything the USA has done, but I think the ledger is balanced far far more on the good side than the bad.

Moreover, like some empires, we have deliberately given up territory. Recall that after the Spanish American war, Cuba and the Phillipines were ours for the taking, and we voluntarily, through Congressional legislation, ceded them back to their population.

As far as Spain and Italy is concerned -- and I would include Greece in this as well -- their current course into chaos is not a function of being an empire, but a result of deliberate govermental fiscal policies. Empires aren't the only things that inevitably collapse -- it's also social welfare states, running up huge debts to maintain standards of living when in fact the nation's economies are simply not productive enough to support it. There's a reason Spanish unemployment is as high as it is, and it's not that they slaughtered the Incas and Aztecs. It's that they have a skewed balance of payments deficits, and when you run out of other people's money to bail you out, the jig is up.

[Samseau]

Outstanding loans hit all time record highs in Spain:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-11-19...high-again

[Menace]

Euro was dumbest idea ever. Why can't they just revert back to their pre-Euro currency valuations, then go with the market. Deutchmark uber alles!

[void]

(11-19-2012 11:59 AM)Menace Wrote:  

Euro was dumbest idea ever. Why can't they just revert back to their pre-Euro currency valuations, then go with the market. Deutchmark uber alles!

watching sessions of the european parliament on youtube, those shitheads/bureaucrats want to establish a european super country. a common currency was the first step. too bad representative democracy allows no real influence for the voter, every european citizen voting for the same corrupt party of his country every period should be slapped in the face.

[Parlay44]

(11-19-2012 11:59 AM)Menace Wrote:  

Euro was dumbest idea ever. Why can't they just revert back to their pre-Euro currency valuations, then go with the market. Deutchmark uber alles!

I think za Germanz are the only ones who know what the heck they're doing over there

[Tex Pro]

Eh, shit ain't hit the fan yet in Spain.

Wake me up when the bayonets and rifles come out:

[spanish_courage]

thanks for the opinions guys

if I were you I would spend some time on holidays in spain,it will be cheaper due to the situation.

[Nineteen84]

It's hardly the end of the world. We had the riots here in London not so long ago and everything's fine now.