[n0000]

Hey guys, I have been lurking for a couple of years and thought I would finally make an account and post to try and get your feedback on something things I have been trying recently. Alot of the focus on this forum is based on getting away from America to find girls. I definitely agree with most of the stuff that Roosh says concerning Americans girls but I do think that it is possible to start subtly influencing how people act.

The goal is to bring gender relations and behavior closer to the way things ought to be. If you can get your foot in the door by showing people their worldview may be flawed then people are generally more receptive to more "red pill" information. Ultimately all you have to do is provide a nudge in the right direction because biology is on your side. Men are much happier behaving in a masculine way and women are much happier being their feminine selves in the presence of manly men.

The way I push men in the right direction is telling them to try being aggressive with the girls they are dating, for example pin their hands above their heads and whisper in their ear that they are sexy. Every girl responds to the extremely positively and this convinces the guys that maybe the way they viewed things before was not entirely correct. Once you have established credibility with your guy friends and explain the behavior of their girlfriends to them then you can introduce them to the heartiste blog or other resources. The most common problem that my guy friends have with women is that they start behaving bitchy or angry alot for no reason. In my experience this is almost 100% due to their dissatisfaction with the men they are dating. The bitchiness goes away once my friends stop putting up with the chick's nonsense.

With girls it is a little harder because their worldview is not as logical and they don't necessarily see the logical contradiction between different beliefs and what they see before them. Teasing them mercilessly and showing them how a confident man behaves seem to really help but I dont think that girls are self aware enough to consciously alter their view of reality. All my girl friends know my political views(very libertarian and old school, women shouldn't vote, etc). The average guy would be crucified but I seem to be able to get away with saying this stuff due to personal development with the help of the "seduction community" at large.

Social pressure seems to be more effective in changing the behavior of women, so I started doing the following.

1. Calling out rude behavior, esp. cell phone usage when the girl is around people. I cannot stand this nonsense and it has to stop. The foreign girls I hang out with usually do not text in front of people. I grab the phone and don't give it back unless they promise to knock it off or tell them its rude.

2. Encouraging my girl friends to dress up by complimenting when they do and calling them a lesbian when they wear athletic wear or other frumpiness.

3. Encouraging girls to cook for me.

4. Most importantly converting girls to the Paleo diet. Ones that are chubby lose weight fast and start seeing more attention from guys than they ever have in their lives. Paleo + Kettlebell swings is a winning formula for an amazing body. More skinny girls is good for everyone. Going to Poland and seeing so many hot, slender girls with big boobs really inspired me. The average American girl is 20-30 lbs overweight. In only a few months with the right diet and exercise an average looking girl can start looking really hot.

Ultimately what I need is to establish a group of like minded guys who are 100% confident in what they believe, at this point we can really start to change the culture and influence elections. It sounds a bit like a cult eh? Wouldnt be a bad life goal to have, start a new age, paleo, yoga cult.

I would like your guys input on stuff we can do to more efficiently change peoples lives. Personally I think getting all the American girls skinny would have a major impact and would cause them to be more grateful for male attention, like they are in Poland. What do y'all think?

[ABDada]

I have a small condo in Gdańsk-Oliwa, and I can tell you that American women will NEVER be like villager Polish women.

I don't know why I ever leave there.

Still, I do think it's important to act like a man should act. I've found that even the most pro-feminist women in the States will still subconsciously take your cues and act more submissive when in private.

It doesn't change their public mask very much, but an inch at a time is something.

Love your list above. Someone should make a blog post to link to with those details and a few others.

[Nomad77]

It's actually could be summed up in one sentence:

If you want a woman to act like a woman you must act like a man.

I don't have problems with women, even American women but then again I screen heavily.

[bojangles]

(11-06-2012 03:49 PM)ABDada Wrote:  

I have a small condo in Gdańsk-Oliwa, and I can tell you that American women will NEVER be like villager Polish women.

I don't know why I ever leave there.

Still, I do think it's important to act like a man should act. I've found that even the most pro-feminist women in the States will still subconsciously take your cues and act more submissive when in private.

It doesn't change their public mask very much, but an inch at a time is something.

Love your list above. Someone should make a blog post to link to with those details and a few others.

are you still in Gdansk?

[Wreckingball]

I think that it is never a good idea to make women aware of "game". Not only will you lose your charm, they will become bitchier.

Also, if you're giving red pills, you should screen for chosen ones. Beta-white knights are a no no. You'll be wasting your time and energy. And they will surely tell women about your "evil techniques" to get laid so that they can win some beta points. Some people are just best left alone in the dark.

[thebassist]

(11-07-2012 04:38 PM)Wreckingball Wrote:  

I think that it is never a good idea to make women aware of "game".

How is what he suggested anything to do with telling women about game?

By the way, great post OP!

[n0000]

(11-07-2012 04:38 PM)Wreckingball Wrote:  

I think that it is never a good idea to make women aware of "game". Not only will you lose your charm, they will become bitchier.

Also, if you're giving red pills, you should screen for chosen ones. Beta-white knights are a no no. You'll be wasting your time and energy. And they will surely tell women about your "evil techniques" to get laid so that they can win some beta points. Some people are just best left alone in the dark.

Its not like I pull out a copy of The Game from which to crib lines. My "game" if you want to call it that consists of things like "Act like a man" and "Go for what you want" and "Don't get emotionally caught up in things women say, alot of the time they don't really mean it". Its just having these beliefs that I have developed with the help of guys like Roosh, having a disciplined lifestyle including good diet, exercise and meditation, and then saying whatever pops into my head. There is no super secret coded book of routines that I have to protect from everyone with a set of boobs. Acting like a man, even telling girl friends that they will be attracted to guys that act like men is not spilling the beans about anything. It is simply stating a fact of life.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand. I am really interested the input of the forum about more stuff we can do to accelerate the shift back to sane gender relationships. I can feel the pendulum swinging back towards reality. People are beginning to become more traditional and rejecting the radical ideas of the boomer generation. In my opinion the best thing to do is get women as skinny and attractive as possible. This will lead to men's attention being spread out among a greater proportion of the women instead of the relatively small pool of slender ones. This should improve attitudes immensely. Showing girls the merits of marrying young and taking on more traditional roles is also a really important step.