[JoeMontana]

I've run into a problem I cant seem to figure out. I'm hoping someone here can help me out with some strategic and/or tactical advice...

I've retired from the game. I met a good woman and got married. Leaving her or going behind her back are not options.

I have been trying to figure out how to get other women into our bed. This is something she wants too - its actually something she WANTS, not just something she's willing to let happen. The problem is that she is terrible at "gaming" with me. Shes the shy type...the type that wants to be taken charge of as opposed to taking charge herself. I've explained many principles and ideas to her...shes just no good at it. I dont really think a mans game is any good coming from a woman anyway.

What often happens is we'll open some chick, things will be going ok initially, but trying to escalate turns into an uncomfortable situation (this is one of the wifeys biggest weaknesses) because - from the other females point of view - "this guy is trying to get all touchy feely with me while his wife is right there!"...
Ignoring the other girl too much and being touchy feely with the wife just isnt going to get anything accomplished either.

I've also tried to pick up alone and and bring the girl home to meet the wife...I have yet to be able to find a smooth transition on this one...I cant seem to make the switch from "I'm going to fuck you" to "you are going to eat my wifes pussy while I fuck you".


If anyone has any ideas on this subject, I'd love to hear about it...

[MiXX]

(03-02-2010 11:55 AM)JoeMontana Wrote:  

I've run into a problem I cant seem to figure out. I'm hoping someone here can help me out with some strategic and/or tactical advice...

I've retired from the game. I met a good woman and got married. Leaving her or going behind her back are not options.

I have been trying to figure out how to get other women into our bed. This is something she wants too - its actually something she WANTS, not just something she's willing to let happen. The problem is that she is terrible at "gaming" with me. Shes the shy type...the type that wants to be taken charge of as opposed to taking charge herself. I've explained many principles and ideas to her...shes just no good at it. I dont really think a mans game is any good coming from a woman anyway.

What often happens is we'll open some chick, things will be going ok initially, but trying to escalate turns into an uncomfortable situation (this is one of the wifeys biggest weaknesses) because - from the other females point of view - "this guy is trying to get all touchy feely with me while his wife is right there!"...
Ignoring the other girl too much and being touchy feely with the wife just isnt going to get anything accomplished either.

I've also tried to pick up alone and and bring the girl home to meet the wife...I have yet to be able to find a smooth transition on this one...I cant seem to make the switch from "I'm going to fuck you" to "you are going to eat my wifes pussy while I fuck you".


If anyone has any ideas on this subject, I'd love to hear about it...

Ummm..sounds like you should start-off at clubs that cater to this lifestyle.

You should try to hit lesbian clubs together.

Women will hit on your wife, and make it easy for you....I've only tried this technique once with an ex-girlfriend, and it worked out so long as you play it smooth...do not force yourself on the lesbian girl, let her do all the work on your girl/wife - then when you get home/hotel and things are heated up, you weasel your way into the trio! Always tell your wife to let the new partner know you "want to watch" so, they are not scared off.

:-)

[loosewin]

Entropy talks about this. Check it out:

http://www.entropypua.com/blog/looking-f...-w-your-gf

[thegmanifesto]

I would try to go out and befriend girls with you wife. Not try to swoop initially. Go the "cool young party couple" route.

You should be able to get a high trust factor going with you wife around.

Keep the shots flowing.

Maybe try it with you wife making the first move.

Sooner or later something has got to give (so to speak).

[Kona]

First off, are you the real Joe Montana? If so, I can't believe this is a problem for you.

Either way, it sounds like you just need to keep working on it.

Like the G said, encourage your wife to do the approaching. It's no different than trying to get a dude to start approaching girls. Well, it's a little different.

When I start to feel like I could get a three way out of a girl I'm banging my next move is usually to take her to a well locked down Gentleman's Club. The idea is to get the girl comfortable in a sexual way around other women. Just sit there and have drinks and talk to your wife about the things she likes/dislikes about the girls. A few times I've wound up with the Dancer in the mix.

The next time you take the misses out on the prowl, start off at the topless spot then head to a normal pick-up bar. Keep the momentum going.

Aloha!

[MiXX]

Ahhh yes!! You can always count on a hot stripper to help seal the deal!!

[JoeMontana]

I never even considered a strip club, to be honest. That doesnt sound like such a bad idea. Although, night time/club scene game was never my strong suit. I am a day player through and through - a college campus, a coffee shop, intramural ultimate frisbee leagues (my favorite, btw )....

I've been out of the game for like 6 years, so trying out a new technique and shaking off a lot of rust at the same time is likely whats holding things up...thats what I attribute most of my unsuccess in this area to.

I had a pretty solid general game plan for this kind of thing back in the day: I'd simply introduce two women I was already sleeping with. At first, I'd go out with one and "accidentally" run into the other one...this was kind of hard sometimes because I'd have to find out where girl #2 was most likely going to be. Eventually I just said fuck it and invited two girls to the same place and played it from there. Turned out the jealousy/competition factor was really easy to make use of.

Anyway, this kind of strategy is out.

To TheG: I think you may be right...I'm gonna take it way slower...a girl is going to have to become comfortable with the IDEA itself. Also, my wifes comfort level - which is more much more important - will be higher. And I believe, the more that I think about it, that female/female dynamics are different than male/female dynamics. The tactics we are used to using are likely irrelevent altogether coming FROM a female.