[NewGamer]

So, I'm a complete newbie to the art of gaming and this is my first post here seeking your advice.Any advice would be appreciated.

I really like this girl in my class. She is gorgeous and I see her as potential LTR material. We have never talked as such but classes are coming to end soon in the next few weeks and so I want to number close before then.

Also, I'm moving to another city for my job and I know that she is moving to the same city too within the next few months after graduation so there is opportunity to continue this along.

Here is my strategy to get her number: I know her hometown and so I'm going to approach her when she is by herself in class and introduce myself. After which, I'm going to make up a story that I'll be visiting her city with my buddies in the next few weeks to meet a friend and wanted to know about things to do, see etc.

Then i'm going to say " Hey, would you mind giving me your number, I'll get in touch with you once my trip is finalized". Would this work? This is my first approach ever and I want to take it step by step.

Any advice on this number closing step would help! Thanks guys!

[haywire]

(06-17-2012 01:58 PM)NewGamer Wrote:  

Then i'm going to say " Hey, would you mind giving me your number, I'll get in touch with you once my trip is finalized". Would this work?

Unlikely. You're making it sound as if she'd do you a favor by giving you her number. I hate to nitpick and believe that usually delivery is more important than content, but in this case your language and mindset seem really weak. Remember, women don't feel any attraction towards men they consider at their own level or below themselves, who are conveniently discarded into the friendzone. So if you want to be more than friends, you gotta come from a position of power.

Go talk to her and establish a basic rapport. Be confident, assertive, humorous and fun around her and exchanging numbers should be a natural progression from that point.

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This is my first approach ever and I want to take it step by step.

Internalize this right away: the more you worry about one prospect, the more you increase your chances of losing her. The laws of this game are a little twisted - the hungry don't get fed here.

Sure, you can increase the odds of attracting more women by developing game, confidence and style but in the end unless you are cool, composed and TOTALLY nonchalant about the whole process you are not likely to succeed.

[NewGamer]

Yea I'm trying to approach this as calmly as possible.The issue here is time...classes end very soon and talking to her, establishing rapport etc is going to take time which is why I was going for the number through this route.

If I don't get her number before she moves, I don't know how I would contact her.I'd have to do it via a common friend or something but I'd rather just do it myself than relying on an intermediary.

[Catch 22]

Agreed with Haywire. You can pull numbers easily with "What's your number?" The question isn't whether she's going to give it to you.

I've tested this on women I didn't want to bang and just talked to for a minute, and so I asked about it from one who I obviously wasn't getting a vibe from, and she said that she gave me her real number because she couldn't think of anything else to say. She just followed. Obviously I deleted that number, but the intel was interesting. Number is nothing. Show her that you know the new city you're moving to and can show her a good time when she'll be new and lonely. You'll be good.

[NewGamer]

(06-17-2012 05:51 PM)Catch 22 Wrote:  

Show her that you know the new city you're moving to and can show her a good time when she'll be new and lonely. You'll be good.

Oh it's actually the other way round.I'm new to the city we both are moving too and she isn't. When I do get the number ( you guys make it sound so easy haha), I was thinking of using the fact that I'm new to the city to hang out with her. I'm trying to find a way to hang out with her you know?

Like, another idea that hit me was asking if she found an apartment yet and get her number under the pretence of asking her to send me her real estate agent information.

[Snowman]

The real question is if you still have a few more weeks, why are you trying to settle for just a phone number? The idea isn't to get her number, have boring conversations via text for a few days while you get to know her better, ask her out, go on a date, text her, go out with her hold hands, call her, go out with her, try to get a kiss, call/text her, go out...repeat until laid. That doesn't work. Settling for a number doesn't work. If you like her I know this is going to sound weird, but spend every moment with her like its the last time you're ever going to see her. I hate to sound like a mindless drone on a sex craving forum, but the fact is if you want to bang her, spend every moment like you are trying to have sex with her. Trust me, girls will appreciate it a hell of a lot more if you go for what you really want. But if you want to spend you're time getting to just know her first you might as well just be trying to make a friend. And that might seem like something you want, but it's not, because you will probably be friend zoned. And that sucks. So to avoid that remember that girls will forgive you much quicker for over reaching rather than not reaching at all.

If you got a few more weeks before you move, then ask her out. Not just for her number, but her number so "that you can hang out sometime before you both leave". And if she says yes, then don't be too excited, because the goal isn't to get her number, or even go on a date with her, it's to get your penis inside her. And then, after you've had sex, then and only then should you contemplate whether or not you want to commit to a relationship. Girls are sluts, don't let them fool you, even the nice ones. The only exception is girls with low sex drives, and honestly do you want a girl you have to beg to have sex with you every singe time?

But if you go with this approach towards the girl and girls in general, with the end game in mind instead of every little step before, I guarantee you are much more likely to get her. And if you have sex with her, and you're game is tight, she'll be the one calling you when you both end up in the same city. Last tip, if you haven't already you should read Bang, you've got some inner game to work on.

[Thatdude]

(06-18-2012 05:53 PM)Snowman Wrote:  

The real question is if you still have a few more weeks, why are you trying to settle for just a phone number? The idea isn't to get her number, have boring conversations via text for a few days while you get to know her better, ask her out, go on a date, text her, go out with her hold hands, call her, go out with her, try to get a kiss, call/text her, go out...repeat until laid. That doesn't work. Settling for a number doesn't work. If you like her I know this is going to sound weird, but spend every moment with her like its the last time you're ever going to see her. I hate to sound like a mindless drone on a sex craving forum, but the fact is if you want to bang her, spend every moment like you are trying to have sex with her. Trust me, girls will appreciate it a hell of a lot more if you go for what you really want. But if you want to spend you're time getting to just know her first you might as well just be trying to make a friend. And that might seem like something you want, but it's not, because you will probably be friend zoned. And that sucks. So to avoid that remember that girls will forgive you much quicker for over reaching rather than not reaching at all.

If you got a few more weeks before you move, then ask her out. Not just for her number, but her number so "that you can hang out sometime before you both leave". And if she says yes, then don't be too excited, because the goal isn't to get her number, or even go on a date with her, it's to get your penis inside her. And then, after you've had sex, then and only then should you contemplate whether or not you want to commit to a relationship. Girls are sluts, don't let them fool you, even the nice ones. The only exception is girls with low sex drives, and honestly do you want a girl you have to beg to have sex with you every singe time?

But if you go with this approach towards the girl and girls in general, with the end game in mind instead of every little step before, I guarantee you are much more likely to get her. And if you have sex with her, and you're game is tight, she'll be the one calling you when you both end up in the same city. Last tip, if you haven't already you should read Bang, you've got some inner game to work on.

Great advice, I needed this as well. Thanks

[WanderingSoul]

(06-17-2012 01:58 PM)NewGamer Wrote:  

So, I'm a complete newbie to the art of gaming and this is my first post here seeking your advice.Any advice would be appreciated.

I really like this girl in my class. She is gorgeous and I see her as potential LTR material. We have never talked as such but classes are coming to end soon in the next few weeks and so I want to number close before then.

Problems in bold. This is your first approach, you are a complete newbie, and you already want to jump into a LTR with this girl? Bro, you haven't fucked enough girls to possibly know what type of girl is LTR material. You are avoiding fixing your core problems, and instead just looking to hop into a relationship.

Read bang, fuck 20 girls, and then maybe you can start thinking about a LTR.

Not trying to be an asshole to you, but you are leading yourself down a long road of betaness and heartache right now. You only see this girl as LTR material because you don't know any better. You can't possibly even BEGIN to know if she is LTR material are this point. You haven't kissed her, fucked her, or spent hardly any time with her. She could be a complete raging whore who get's gangbanged in the locker room for all you know.

[Snowflake]

Second what Rio said. Bang her then get out or make her a regular, steer clear from LTRs

[NewGamer]

(06-19-2012 11:33 AM)Snowflake Wrote:  

Second what Rio said. Bang her then get out or make her a regular, steer clear from LTRs

Okay! So LTR is out of the window since I'm a complete newbie. I also have NOT read Bang as I'm really busy with academic stuff but I will once I'm done in a couple of months.What do I do in the meantime? Do I just drop the whole idea, read bang and approach her in a few months or do I just go for it without giving a shit.I'm ready for any outcome.

I don't want to regret not approaching down the road.Like I read somewhere, not approaching is worse than approaching and getting rejected.

I WANT this girl and so might as well go for it now rather than waiting for the future.

[Screwston]

Just approach her and say "what's up?" And start talking. Imagine her taking a dump so you don't start acting goofy. Get her number and we will take it from there.

[haywire]

(06-19-2012 01:24 PM)NewGamer Wrote:  

Okay! So LTR is out of the window since I'm a complete newbie. I also have NOT read Bang as I'm really busy with academic stuff but I will once I'm done in a couple of months.What do I do in the meantime?

Approach 5 random girls per day till you ask her out. The confidence/practical learning you'll get after that, you can't get even after reading 100 books. Bang is a great pickup manual, perhaps one of the best out there, but ultimately the only way to learn this shit is through sheer experience.

I wouldn't say rule the LTR thing out completely, if it works out for you in the first try, good for you, but don't get your hopes high or you'll get hurt and that's what people are warning you about.

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Do I just drop the whole idea, read bang and approach her in a few months or do I just go for it without giving a shit.I'm ready for any outcome.

I don't want to regret not approaching down the road.Like I read somewhere, not approaching is worse than approaching and getting rejected.

I WANT this girl and so might as well go for it now rather than waiting for the future.

Nope, it'd be foolish to just drop the idea. You don't want to miss the shot you didn't take, dont you?

The only thing people are trying to say to you, and it's for your own good, is that you shouldn't get your hopes high and put one woman on the pedestal. You can't determine the worthiness of a girl only on the basis of her looks. Go approach her, but don't give a shit at the same time.

Nothing wrong in wanting a "loving" LTR with a gorgeous woman, but sadly the reality is much different. It usually take a few tries to get things right and get an understanding of the whole situation(female psychology, how relationships work etc etc).

Better to take the red pill sooner than later.

[MrXY]

New Gamer you need to learn what Inner Game means and make it a part of you. Start now, it will probably take years to complete the process

And approach, appraoach, approach.

And don't give any one girl any special value, that almost guarantees that you won't get her

[WanderingSoul]

(06-19-2012 01:24 PM)NewGamer Wrote:  

Okay! So LTR is out of the window since I'm a complete newbie. I also have NOT read Bang as I'm really busy with academic stuff but I will once I'm done in a couple of months.What do I do in the meantime? Do I just drop the whole idea, read bang and approach her in a few months or do I just go for it without giving a shit.I'm ready for any outcome.

I don't want to regret not approaching down the road.Like I read somewhere, not approaching is worse than approaching and getting rejected.

I WANT this girl and so might as well go for it now rather than waiting for the future.

Bro, bang is like 140 pages, you can read it in 1-2 nights. Don't use that as an excuse. You are NOT too busy to read a 140 page book if you are on this forum. Spend the time you would use reading this forum, and read Bang instead. It is an infinitely more valuable way to spend your time right now.

You're whole mindset is fucked right now. "I WANT this girl" shows that. You have no concept of game and if you want a legit shot at grabbing girls you need to fix that.

Order the Bang ebook and read it in the next couple of days. Then you will have a much better shot with her. However, know that you are already pedestalizing this girl so you probably already lost.

This is why we can't help you so quickly, you have to work on your basic mindset first. You are 180 degrees mentally away from where we are. You don't even understand your basic problems yet, so how can we help you fix them?

Seriously, go read Bang or you are just wasting your time.

[NewGamer]

(06-20-2012 12:27 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  

(06-19-2012 01:24 PM)NewGamer Wrote:  

Okay! So LTR is out of the window since I'm a complete newbie. I also have NOT read Bang as I'm really busy with academic stuff but I will once I'm done in a couple of months.What do I do in the meantime? Do I just drop the whole idea, read bang and approach her in a few months or do I just go for it without giving a shit.I'm ready for any outcome.

I don't want to regret not approaching down the road.Like I read somewhere, not approaching is worse than approaching and getting rejected.

I WANT this girl and so might as well go for it now rather than waiting for the future.

Bro, bang is like 140 pages, you can read it in 1-2 nights. Don't use that as an excuse. You are NOT too busy to read a 140 page book if you are on this forum. Spend the time you would use reading this forum, and read Bang instead. It is an infinitely more valuable way to spend your time right now.

You're whole mindset is fucked right now. "I WANT this girl" shows that. You have no concept of game and if you want a legit shot at grabbing girls you need to fix that.

Order the Bang ebook and read it in the next couple of days. Then you will have a much better shot with her. However, know that you are already pedestalizing this girl so you probably already lost.

This is why we can't help you so quickly, you have to work on your basic mindset first. You are 180 degrees mentally away from where we are. You don't even understand your basic problems yet, so how can we help you fix them?

Seriously, go read Bang or you are just wasting your time.

Advice taken.She hasn't shown up in class anyways so I have no option but to push everything back.In the meantime, I'll read BANG like you said and then give it a shot when she does eventually show up.If she doesn't show up, I'll just move on to a new girl.

I know I have no game but figured I'd ask for advice on here but I guess I should have read BANG first before asking for advice.Thank you guys for your patience!