[The Fantasist]

What do you hope to have achieved in any area of life in the next ten years? Share your hopes and goals and we'll come back in 2022 and see how we've all done.

Mine:

By 2022 I intend to own outright my own apartment in a major city in Central/Eastern Europe.

My social circle will be built of dynamic and successful people.

I will have spent the last ten years travelling to every FSU and European country.

I will be semi fluent in a new language and have improved my Russian considerably.

I will find a way to make money via the internet which will allow me to travel for much of the year.

I will have written a book and had it published and listed on Amazon.

I will have steadily improved my game and be sleeping with women of better quality then now including banging a couple of genuine 10's.

I will have 50,000GBP in the bank which will be purely for play.

Over to you....

[el mechanico]

Vorkuta, ten years is a long time. Your plan should be executed in two. If you're pluggin away at a j-o-b to do this you need to find a hustle to make fast cash to supplement.

[Fathom]

Setting a deadline for a goal has always been a sticking point for me. How can you know how long it will take to reach a goal unless you've already done something similar. For example, I could set a goal of making $2,000 USD via online marketing by January 1st, 2014. But what if it only takes six months? Then there's the entirely separate issue of the "how." What good is it setting a deadline to, say, have X amount in the bank by date Y, when you have no idea how to generate it? I know everyone always says "hustle" but what does that mean?

One thing with which I do have experience is language learning. So, Vorkuta: if you live somewhere where it is spoken, you can reach B1 level in a year. Six months if you make it a priority. You don't need ten years to become semi-fluent.

Here goes my one-year goal:

Generate a minimum of $1,500 income per month online so that I can be mobile and free.

Ten year goals? Sorry, I can't even imagine what would be realistic for me right now over a ten-year span. Life and priorities simply change too often based on circumstances. People also change. What seems desirable to me today might look ridiculous in ten years.

[Andy_B]

(06-10-2012 12:25 PM)Fathom Wrote:  

Setting a deadline for a goal has always been a sticking point for me. How can you know how long it will take to reach a goal unless you've already done something similar. For example, I could set a goal of making $2,000 USD via online marketing by January 1st, 2014. But what if it only takes six months?

This is my financial "issue" (if you can really call it that). I'm now making the weekly income that I had planned to make in two years' time. I had planned everything on the assumption that starting a business would be slow with lean years at first, but it actually grew pretty fast.

I'm also struggling with the realization that money has very little effect on my happiness. It's confusing.

[Veloce]

Floating face down in a tub filled with Krug champagne and some 15 year old Thai hookers poking at my motionless corpse.

[Kaizen]

i hope to be semi-retired, working for fun and living off significant passive income from my investment portfolio.

[YoungGunner]

Won't even be in my 30's, which by consensus here are the "prime years" of a man's life. So, leading up to that time, I hope to be :

-Living abroad in a country with beautiful scenery, nice wimminz, and self-sufficiency. Not the U.S, i'm gtfo.
-Healthy
-Have a steady rotation of HB 7s or higher
-Captured 10 flags
-Done some large-scale philanthropy projects
-Mastered another language or 2.
-Establish a balance of cash flow/ vacation time so that I can go sarging in other places abroad for about 2 months or more out of every year.

[RawGod]

I like your goals, Vorkuta, but as el mechanico said, you're setting the bar too low. An apartment in central Europe is not expensive, you can put a book up on Amazon a week, month or three from now if you want to, and getting dynamic circle of peers doesn't take a decade.

I once heard it said, most people overestimate what they can do it a year, and underestimate what you can do in a decade.

If you're stuck in regular Joe land, you can totally transform yourself in maybe 3 years. At the end of that period, the goals you will set for yourself for 7 years later will look very different than goals you might set for yourself now when you are still peeking over the cubicle walls or whatever.

So think about TODAY, the next three months, and at most the next 3 years. Do all the things on your list within that time. Then will be time to dream the big dreams that seem too outrageous today.

(06-10-2012 10:43 AM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

What do you hope to have achieved in any area of life in the next ten years? Share your hopes and goals and we'll come back in 2022 and see how we've all done.

Mine:

By 2022 I intend to own outright my own apartment in a major city in Central/Eastern Europe.

My social circle will be built of dynamic and successful people.

I will have spent the last ten years travelling to every FSU and European country.

I will be semi fluent in a new language and have improved my Russian considerably.

I will find a way to make money via the internet which will allow me to travel for much of the year.

I will have written a book and had it published and listed on Amazon.

I will have steadily improved my game and be sleeping with women of better quality then now including banging a couple of genuine 10's.

I will have 50,000GBP in the bank which will be purely for play.

Over to you....

[1Minute]

I think setting 10 year goals is looking way too far into the future. I think setting 6/12/18/24 month goals is a much better use of your time.

Here's a few guys who started lifting and what they're like 3 years down: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UAaWWFzFlY

With those shorter timelines you can make more actionable goals like

For learning a new language
6 month
-Hold a 5 minute conversation with a local without any awkward pauses

12 month
-Read or see a movie and understand the puns/word play

18 month
-Give a lecture at a local university/business in the local language

Seems to me like those would be much more practical in implementing. And, you can push yourself to see like if you hit the 6 month goal in 4, can you hit the 12 month in 9?

[TheBulldozer]

I disagree that setting goals long term is a poor idea. In fact, it's one of the things that drives me.

I visualize where I see myself in 10 years, 20 years, hell even 30 years from now. Not all of that visualization necessarily has to do with work related goals either. In fact, a large part of what I picture 30 years from now is sitting down with my childhood friends, drinking a glass of whiskey laughing about how we've lived the life.

I go from there and work backwards.

Playing the very long game allows you to shroud your moves and ideas a bit more. People can see your immediate intentions, but are oftentimes clueless about your long term intentions. In fact, I'd say most people are clueless about their own lifelong intentions.

I'm playing the very long game with my career, my friends, and even the women I could one day see myself having kids with.

A definition of an alpha is one who lives in the moment, but considers the long term perspective of every action. Easier said than done.

[Architekt]

My short term goals are based on long term goals anyway

In 10 years:
I'll have finished my engineering degree and will have 5-8 years experience, earning up around $160k/year
Have a bunch of scratch to play with
Speak fluent Russian
Have a place in the FSU somewhere
Have a holiday spot in SEA that I can temporarily rent out to people
I'll speak conversational Spanish and have travelled all around South America
I'll have a place where I can brew/distill my own drinks
I'll be good at surfing
I'll be ripped as fuck
I'll have read somewhere around 500 books across a ton of subjects
I'll have published a book
I'll have released at least 1 album
I'll be an epic homeschooled cook
I'll be skilled at various martial arts
Triple digit notch count

[clever alias]

(01-08-2013 10:12 PM)1Minute Wrote:  

I think setting 10 year goals is looking way too far into the future. I think setting 6/12/18/24 month goals is a much better use of your time.

Here's a few guys who started lifting and what they're like 3 years down: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UAaWWFzFlY

With those shorter timelines you can make more actionable goals like

For learning a new language
6 month
-Hold a 5 minute conversation with a local without any awkward pauses

12 month
-Read or see a movie and understand the puns/word play

18 month
-Give a lecture at a local university/business in the local language

Seems to me like those would be much more practical in implementing. And, you can push yourself to see like if you hit the 6 month goal in 4, can you hit the 12 month in 9?

I would think not, seems you expect to increase at an exponential level. a 5 minute conversation in 6 months seems a little slow, but an entire movie and understanding the puns at 12 months seems very difficult. and giving a college lecture in a specialized area is a level most foreign language learners never even reach

[Architekt]

(01-09-2013 04:14 AM)clever alias Wrote:  

I would think not, seems you expect to increase at an exponential level. a 5 minute conversation in 6 months seems a little slow, but an entire movie and understanding the puns at 12 months seems very difficult. and giving a college lecture in a specialized area is a level most foreign language learners never even reach

If you're spending most of your time socialising, picking up on puns/slang isn't as hard as most people think.

Also, a lot of my lecturers speak English as a second or even third language

[soup]

In 10 years you might be in your grave.

I usually give things a few months trial period unless it's super obvious that it's going to take a long time (like becoming a doctor or great pianist).

10 years isn't important.

20,000 hours is. It's the amount of time it generally takes to get to genius/master level at most skills.

[Architekt]

I've always gone by 10k, soup, but still, dedication is the real factor involved

[bojangles]

10 years is too far ahead for me, at the end of this year I hope to be travelling with my 2 buddies with no worries of needing a job, also to have learnt 2 languages to a proficient level

[WestCoast]

Retired and living in South America.

[Architekt]

When I first saw this thread I was expecting more like

this is Neil Skywalker in 10 years. I wish I could have gotten a better pic

[thegmanifesto]

(01-09-2013 08:38 AM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Retired and living in South America.

What city?

[snoop]

Consider this in regards to setting such long term goals....you don't even know what will exist then, so you can't really plan specifics for that time frame.

eReaders didn't really exist 10 years ago, so the eBook market wasn't anything then either.

Smartphone apps were an almost non-existant market then.

Not saying its a bad idea, just something to think about, especially in regards to specific goals (maybe inflation/health issue/etc will mean you need much more than 50k by then). Might be better to focus on why you need to save X amount of money.

[WestCoast]

(01-09-2013 02:58 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  

(01-09-2013 08:38 AM)WestCoast Wrote:  

Retired and living in South America.

What city?

No idea player. Try to do a couple new cities per year so the final is entirely up in the air... Gives me ~20-30 more options by then.

Kinda like buying a car, trying to find the perfect one consumer is unhappy. Going by no info consumer is unhappy. Do medium research and call it a day = happy. Then again could be dead by then who knows.

[Architekt]

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