[Sebastian]

I think this is kind of troll opener but I never had this many responses no matter what I said. I was tired of reading their profile and pointing out something they say so that I look more sincere.
I wanted to say something simple with sexual intention behind.

'I can teach many things....' that's it.

I sent it to any decent looking chicks on PoF (since all of them are sluts)
and Milfs on Match.

I got about 20 messages back in several hours.
Most of them are 'Like what?'
I know most of them won't go anywhere.

What type of response do you recommend?
Say something innocent? like 'oh I can teach you how to make sushi'

or something with sexual innuendo?

[HiFlo]

"I have a PhD in putting my beef in tacos."

[Cr33pin]

I can teach you....

"teach me what?"

HOW TO DOUGIE

[durangotang]

Respond with:

"I am a man of many talents, but not so fast. Quid pro quo. What do you have going for you besides your good looks? I don't want to waste my time. Respond to me with the number one thing besides your looks that makes you special, and the top three things you want to learn from a man like me."

[Samseau]

(05-23-2012 01:06 PM)durangotang Wrote:  

Respond with:

"I am a man of many talents, but not so fast. Quid pro quo. What do you have going for you besides your good looks? I don't want to waste my time. Respond to me with the number one thing besides your looks that makes you special, and the top three things you want to learn from a man like me."

I'm not online dating guru, but this sounds like a horrible reply.

[durangotang]

Lol. What is your response Samseau?

[el mechanico]

I can teach you....

"teach me what?"

How to get your servers online if they crash and cheat codes to many video games

[Walnuts]

I need more simple openers like these that I can spam without even peeping the profile. My response rate is horrible but once they respond i can run it from there.
I feel the same way as Seb when i read a profile and message them with something about it and get nothing back. Like a sick joke.

[Parlay44]

I'm so tired of online dating sites. Too much work. Not enough return.
The girls are so bottom of the barrel. I'll stick to day game and bars.

[el mechanico]

(05-23-2012 05:37 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

I'm so tired of online dating sites. Too much work. Not enough return.
The girls are so bottom of the barrel. I'll stick to day game and bars.

Online game is on fire here now in FL. Nothing girls like more than ruining a guys summer! They're all looking for BF's right now to do that.

[Samseau]

(05-23-2012 01:26 PM)durangotang Wrote:  

Lol. What is your response Samseau?

I'd probably reply with something out of my own life.

"Have you ever done a 6-step before?"

[MrXY]

(05-23-2012 03:24 PM)Walnuts Wrote:  

I need more simple openers like these that I can spam without even peeping the profile. My response rate is horrible but once they respond i can run it from there.
I feel the same way as Seb when i read a profile and message them with something about it and get nothing back. Like a sick joke.

I have a couple of openers I use at any given time. Usually one liners-no more than two. The style is cocky or funny. Lately I have just been using a dumb joke and getting lots of replies.

Don't bother to read the profiles-they are banal, repetitive and full of typical female bullshit. Just look at the photos and spam the ones you think are bangable. If you get a reply then look at the profile and consider that in your reply-although often i just continue with cocky/funny until i ask for the number.

If you are not getting replies then the problem is either your profile or photos or both. Chicks will look at those before they reply. I have experimented with a variety of profiles and photos and the difference between reply rates is shocking.With some tests my reply rate was as low as 6-8%. With my current setup my reply rate has been running at over 30% with spikes to over 40% which is pretty amazing. This is the best i've ever done and i attribute the success to a profile which totally outrageous, obviously insincere and i don't give a fuck in attitude, along with better photos. No one versed in game would be surprised by this, nor would they be surprised to learn that my worst reply rates came when my profile was sincere, earnest, and exhibited a "nice guy who wants a relationship" vibe. And people wonder why we players are so cynical....

[Vicious]

I'm not sure if I see this opener going anywhere... message 2 probably has a massive fall-off rate. We need Gmac's take on this!

[Gmac]

Even if this were the best opener ever, sharing it on a public forum is idiotic. The last time this happened chicks started picking up on it in the major cities because so many guys were using the same lines. No joke.

[Walnuts]

(05-24-2012 05:06 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

Even if this were the best opener ever, sharing it on a public forum is idiotic. The last time this happened chicks started picking up on it in the major cities because so many guys were using the same lines. No joke.

I was thinking maybe we could have a private subforum for stuff like this? Members only.

[Neo]

I also think the fall off rate will be extremely high.

I've been doing this online shit for a long time and the opener for the most part is irrelevant. I mean yeah avoid hello, hey, and weird or stupid stuff, but it doesn't have to be anything super clever, witty, or over thought.

There are two things in my opinion that differentiate guys who do well online and guys who either fail or get poor results.

1) The screening process and eliminating girls who are not serious.
2) Capitalizing on your 'target market'

Most guys understand it's a numbers game, but they just hit up any chick who is cute.

The thing is it can't really be taught. Every guy has a different vibe and style that certain girls will be into. What works for me may completely fail for another type of guy. The best advice I can give is to closely analyze past bangs and hookups and look for clues. What did the girls have in common? What were their personalities like? When you hooked up with a chick from the internet what was the process like from beginning to bang? How did they respond? I believe Roosh did a post asking very similar questions.

Keep this is up for a few years and you'll start developing a sixth sense for the type of girls that you can pull online, then you won't have to message a ton of girls to be successful.

[Screwston]

(05-24-2012 05:06 AM)Gmac Wrote:  

Even if this were the best opener ever, sharing it on a public forum is idiotic. The last time this happened chicks started picking up on it in the major cities because so many guys were using the same lines. No joke.

I remember that

[Screwston]

(05-24-2012 06:18 AM)Neo Wrote:  

I also think the fall off rate will be extremely high.

I've been doing this online shit for a long time and the opener for the most part is irrelevant. I mean yeah avoid hello, hey, and weird or stupid stuff, but it doesn't have to be anything super clever, witty, or over thought.

There are two things in my opinion that differentiate guys who do well online and guys who either fail or get poor results.

1) The screening process and eliminating girls who are not serious.
2) Capitalizing on your 'target market'

Most guys understand it's a numbers game, but they just hit up any chick who is cute.

The thing is it can't really be taught. Every guy has a different vibe and style that certain girls will be into. What works for me may completely fail for another type of guy. The best advice I can give is to closely analyze past bangs and hookups and look for clues. What did the girls have in common? What were their personalities like? When you hooked up with a chick from the internet what was the process like from beginning to bang? How did they respond? I believe Roosh did a post asking very similar questions.

Keep this is up for a few years and you'll start developing a sixth sense for the type of girls that you can pull online, then you won't have to message a ton of girls to be successful.

New girls in the online dating world and ones who go after your type. Unless you're a tall guy cut up with muscles, you have to do this.

[Gmac]

(05-24-2012 06:18 AM)Neo Wrote:  

I also think the fall off rate will be extremely high.

I've been doing this online shit for a long time and the opener for the most part is irrelevant. I mean yeah avoid hello, hey, and weird or stupid stuff, but it doesn't have to be anything super clever, witty, or over thought.

There are two things in my opinion that differentiate guys who do well online and guys who either fail or get poor results.

1) The screening process and eliminating girls who are not serious.
2) Capitalizing on your 'target market'

Most guys understand it's a numbers game, but they just hit up any chick who is cute.

The thing is it can't really be taught. Every guy has a different vibe and style that certain girls will be into. What works for me may completely fail for another type of guy. The best advice I can give is to closely analyze past bangs and hookups and look for clues. What did the girls have in common? What were their personalities like? When you hooked up with a chick from the internet what was the process like from beginning to bang? How did they respond? I believe Roosh did a post asking very similar questions.

Keep this is up for a few years and you'll start developing a sixth sense for the type of girls that you can pull online, then you won't have to message a ton of girls to be successful.

Bingo. Strategy alone is the reason my online bang % went up considerably.

[Cr33pin]

i have had no luck with the teaching opener

fail

[Vicious]

(05-24-2012 08:36 PM)Gmac Wrote:  

(05-24-2012 06:18 AM)Neo Wrote:  

I also think the fall off rate will be extremely high.

I've been doing this online shit for a long time and the opener for the most part is irrelevant. I mean yeah avoid hello, hey, and weird or stupid stuff, but it doesn't have to be anything super clever, witty, or over thought.

There are two things in my opinion that differentiate guys who do well online and guys who either fail or get poor results.

1) The screening process and eliminating girls who are not serious.
2) Capitalizing on your 'target market'

Most guys understand it's a numbers game, but they just hit up any chick who is cute.

The thing is it can't really be taught. Every guy has a different vibe and style that certain girls will be into. What works for me may completely fail for another type of guy. The best advice I can give is to closely analyze past bangs and hookups and look for clues. What did the girls have in common? What were their personalities like? When you hooked up with a chick from the internet what was the process like from beginning to bang? How did they respond? I believe Roosh did a post asking very similar questions.

Keep this is up for a few years and you'll start developing a sixth sense for the type of girls that you can pull online, then you won't have to message a ton of girls to be successful.

Bingo. Strategy alone is the reason my online bang % went up considerably.

This. And your pics have to match the persona you're presenting to the world. You have to sell an entire concept.

[bodmon]

tried it on 20 girls, only 4 looks at my profile, no responses

it seems pretty stupid