[Parlay44]

I can't even watch TV anymore. I just get irritated.

Name an annoying Beta Male character from popular TV shows.

Here's my choice:

Doug Heffernan from King of Queens.

[Walnuts]

His wife is WAY out of his league though. You gotta give him that.

[Parlay44]

(04-15-2012 02:00 PM)Walnuts Wrote:  

His wife is WAY out of his league though. You gotta give him that.

Yeah I agree. He'd never get her with his pathetic game.
She definitely runs the house though.

[Parlay44]

As much as I enjoyed the Honeymooners growing up, I'd have to say Ralph Kramden is a major Beta. His wife punks him down all the time.

[Walnuts]

Yeah doug is definitely whipped.

My nomination is Ted Mosby from How I Met Your Mother. I can't stand that fucking show.

[Parlay44]

(04-15-2012 02:16 PM)Walnuts Wrote:  

Yeah doug is definitely whipped.

My nomination is Ted Mosby from How I Met Your Mother. I can't stand that fucking show.

Funny thing about that show ...The only Alpha male character(Barney) is actually gay in real life. I think it's even funnier that he's suited down all the time

[teh_skeeze]

Charlie Sheen was the guy that made that show watchable.

[Riker]

Dude I looked up that actor from the king of queens and his real life wife is hot too. His name is Kevin James and his wife is specimen below

   

[j r]

My vote is Ross from Friends

[Parlay44]

(04-15-2012 03:02 PM)j r Wrote:  

My vote is Ross from Friends

Funny thing about Ross though, he's a Doctor with a PHD on the show. So he may be beta as hell but he makes some bank and has status. So is he really beta?

[FretDancer]

(04-15-2012 02:29 PM)teh_skeeze Wrote:  



Charlie Sheen was the guy that made that show watchable.

Haha thats bullshit. Allan Harper is a great character in the show and I can safely say it contributes to alot of what makes the show hilarious.

[Basil Ransom]

This guy from Modern Family.

I'm trying to understand why the father as beta is so ubiquitous in sitcoms. All I could come up with:

1. Seeing a pussy whipped father makes female viewers feel empowered, and superior to that buffoonish sex known as men.
2. Seeing a pussy whipped father makes whipped males feel good that they have no balls. "Well, I guess I'm not alone - I can't be that much of a pussy if everyone else does the same thing." (What other kind of man watches this shit?)
3. Weak father figures, and the absence of power held by straight male fathers, makes homosexuals feel more liberated and unconstrained. No more judgmental men leering at them.

Plus, the only men who can call women out on their shit are invariably homosexual.

I initially used the word 'dad,' but I realized the word is infantilizing, that you can't really command much respect calling yourself a 'dad.' Guys who call themselves 'dads' look like this dude:

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Funny thing about Ross though, he's a Doctor with a PHD on the show. So he may be beta as hell but he makes some bank and has status. So is he really beta?

Firstly, it's a TV show, so he doesn't actually. And while I would respect someone for getting an MD, for that specific accomplishment, on some instinctual level, I have trouble respecting a man who isn't the master of his own domain, and cannot keep his woman in check, just as I couldn't respect an able-bodied man who could not fend for himself.

[j r]

(04-15-2012 03:17 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

Funny thing about Ross though, he's a Doctor with a PHD on the show. So he may be beta as hell but he makes some bank and has status. So is he really beta?

His first wife left him for a woman and then gave his son the lesbian wife's last name. He sweated Racheal since high school and ruined his second marriage cause he said her name on the altar. Personality-wise, he's a hardcore dweeb. He's a textbook beta.

And yeah, he's a PhD, but I don't know how much status that brings, especially in New York City. He's a paleontologist that does research at a museum.

[Cincinnatus]

Zach Braff a.k.a. Dr. Dorian on Scrubs:

[Parlay44]

(04-15-2012 03:51 PM)j r Wrote:  

(04-15-2012 03:17 PM)Parlay44 Wrote:  

Funny thing about Ross though, he's a Doctor with a PHD on the show. So he may be beta as hell but he makes some bank and has status. So is he really beta?

His first wife left him for a woman and then gave his son the lesbian wife's last name. He sweated Racheal since high school and ruined his second marriage cause he said her name on the altar. Personality-wise, he's a hardcore dweeb. He's a textbook beta.

And yeah, he's a PhD, but I don't know how much status that brings, especially in New York City. He's a paleontologist that does research at a museum.

Yeah that's pretty beta. You win

[Deluge]

The dad on Modern Family because they portray him as being dumb as a rock. So dumb I can't imagine how he'd survive without his wife.

[soup]

John Goodman's character on Rosanne.

Al Bundy, despite being so aware of his condition, still beta!

[Kish]

(04-15-2012 02:29 PM)teh_skeeze Wrote:  



Charlie Sheen was the guy that made that show watchable.

I have to disagree with you there. Alan Harper is hilarious! Damn...thats probably my favorite show.

[Tuthmosis]

(04-15-2012 06:49 PM)soup Wrote:  

Al Bundy, despite being so aware of his condition, still beta!

You smoking crack, homie! Al Bundy stood up to the fatties and bitches constantly. He just didn't cut the cord on his shitty life. He was a beat-down man, to be sure, but his man credentials were fundamentally sound:

[soup]

(04-15-2012 07:28 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(04-15-2012 06:49 PM)soup Wrote:  

Al Bundy, despite being so aware of his condition, still beta!

You smoking crack, homie! Al Bundy stood up to the fatties and bitches constantly. He just didn't cut the cord on his shitty life. He was a beat-down man, to be sure, but his man credentials were fundamentally sound:

Interesting, I guess I just meant to say that I didn't see him as alpha. What the hell is he then? An arm-chair alpha? An anti-beta-beta? It's the same problem I have with the Hank Moody character in Californication. He's clearly alpha, but has this huge beta oneitis.

Either my definitions aren't nuanced enough, or television is trying to pull the wool over our eyes, or maybe both?

I wonder if the Bundy character was good or bad for society. On the one hand he preaches a lot of the same stuff we do here, so maybe he was influencing men to think like him. On the other hand, his character might have served as a sort relief valve, and actually helped to preserve the status quo while the feminist influence on society was growing stronger.

[Samseau]

I can't believe no one mentioned Everyone Loves Gaymond:

[Parlay44]

Al Bundy was definitely anti-feminist. He used to torture his neighbor Marcy all the time. She was the short haired poster child for feminism/lesbianism.

[Basil Ransom]

(04-15-2012 09:18 PM)soup Wrote:  

(04-15-2012 07:28 PM)Tuthmosis Wrote:  

(04-15-2012 06:49 PM)soup Wrote:  

Al Bundy, despite being so aware of his condition, still beta!

You smoking crack, homie! Al Bundy stood up to the fatties and bitches constantly. He just didn't cut the cord on his shitty life. He was a beat-down man, to be sure, but his man credentials were fundamentally sound:

Interesting, I guess I just meant to say that I didn't see him as alpha. What the hell is he then? An arm-chair alpha? An anti-beta-beta? It's the same problem I have with the Hank Moody character in Californication. He's clearly alpha, but has this huge beta oneitis.

Either my definitions aren't nuanced enough, or television is trying to pull the wool over our eyes, or maybe both?

I wonder if the Bundy character was good or bad for society. On the one hand he preaches a lot of the same stuff we do here, so maybe he was influencing men to think like him. On the other hand, his character might have served as a sort relief valve, and actually helped to preserve the status quo while the feminist influence on society was growing stronger.

Alpha is a state of mind



In addition to the feminist hating and woman-teasing, Al is not ashamed of his masculinity, and doesn't shy away from hitting on cute girls. If a guy sells shoes for a living, I'm not going to respect him any less, when he's got his own personal shit in order.

[Andreas]

Are you guys kidding me. Those Betas look super Alphas compared to those two:

[WesternCancer]

I'm watching season 5 of the sopranos. Whoever Meadow is dating/gets engaged to was the epitome of college beta-dom. He vomited when he saw a guy get beat up, asked her for approval or to make decisions on everything, when they got into a fight he failed every shit test and said "please stop crying please", list goes on. I hope he gets killed or something.