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Lithuania Data Sheet (Kaunas)
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Lithuania Data Sheet (Kaunas)

I spent five weeks in Kaunas, Lithuania (I did not visit Vilnius) to wrap up nearly four months in the Baltics. Here are my thoughts..

Lithuanian girls are gorgeous. These girls are way way up there. What I liked most about them was their extraordinary long hair, often to their waist. I felt like I was walking around on a shampoo commercial set. They are the most thin of all Baltic countries, but their bodies can be boyish without any curves (their asses were unsatisfactory). They had very pretty faces and great grooming and makeup habits. It doesn't get a whole lot better than this.

Tons of foreigners. You'd think Lithuania would have less foreigners than Estonia and Latvia, but Kaunas was in the company of Riga in terms of how many I saw. Most of them, thankfully, were students. There is no sex tourist vibe or scams, just lots of horny guys. Lots.

The local guys got game. Lithuanian guys are probably the best looking and tallest (real tall!) of the Baltics. Surprise surprise that the girls really like their men. The guys also approach like machines though they tend to overdrink and crap out by 3am. Most nights I was in the club competing with tons of aggressive Lithuanian and foreign guys (Turks and Spaniards, mostly). It wasn't easy or particularly enjoyable.

Low eye contact. The girls were stingy with looks, but when they did look, I knew I was in. If she looks at you, let out a smile. If she smiles back, she's definitely interested. The ROI was low when I approached a girl at night who didn't give me eye contact first. The game here was your appearance and energy. If a girl really likes you, she will look AND smile, which was quite refreshing since I don't get that in other countries.

You need a wingman in the clubs. Rolling solo is no good. Many times a girl will be in pairs and even if one girl likes you, she won't ditch her friend.

Now the bad news...

It's really hard to get a 7 or above. I was there for five weeks, worked like a dog, and did not fuck a Lithuanian above a 6. Believe me I tried, both day and night, but I ran into three problems with them:

1. Relationship minded. Lithuania was almost identical to Latvia in that the pretty girls are already snatched up. If she's over 21 and pretty, I'd bet money she has a boyfriend. It was almost automatic that a cute girl was taken. The culture here is relationships.

2. English is least common of all other European countries I've been. The language barrier was a mild to moderate problem here. It seems that English is a somewhat recent requirement in school, so if she's over 25 then there's a chance she won't speak a single word of English.

3. Bad attitudes. It pains me to write that the attitude here could be harsh, sometimes even worse than America. For example, one girl called me a "monkey" when I approached her. Lots of girls went out of their way to try to make me feel like shit. There is an abrasiveness that was worse than Estonia and Latvia (though Latvia could be bad, too). There are some sweet, nice girls, but less so than the other countries. There was no shortage of bitchy hot girls. I was surprised about this, but that was the reality.

That said, the saving grace is that 6s and below are not hard. They will be very open and straightforward to bang (even one night stands). I hated how the line of demarcation was at the 6 range, where anything above was off limits. Ironically, the cutest girl I banged in Kaunas (a 7) was Polish, though I did fool around with an 8 (but didn't close). Still, not all 6s are ready to jump a foreign guy's bones. Even some of them can have attitude, so if you go dumpster diving you can be in for a surprise. You'll need longer term strategies to be consistently successful here.

It's possible that my rating standards are skewed and need to be recalibrated with a visit back to America, so my 6 could very likely be your 7. But to me that doesn't matter because in Estonia the 7s and above were accessible to me and with less attitude. Now I know why Estonian guys were trying to keep me out... their women prefer foreigners.

For Lithuanian hotties, you have to use long-term python game, where you orbit around her while she's in her relationship, gradually squeezing as the relationship deteriorates. But this requires a lot of time, six months or more. I was placed in orbits of three very attractive women. If I lived in Lithuania permanently, I'm guessing the orbiting investment would pay off somewhat.

The hot Lithuanian girls will not be about you unless you they have a particular interest in English or your country. Two of the girls I orbited around worked as a lifeguard in the States for a summer. If they were single, it would have been easy for me, but there's no way an 8 in Lithuania is going to be single for long. I'm amazed at how tight the dating market is. Being single is seen as almost pathetic so everyone is in a rush to settle with their less-than-ideal mate. This is why girls with boyfriends entertained me as an option by letting me escalate just a little.

Day game is effective. It was in the middle of winter when I was there so I did most of my approaches in the mall, though opportunities were still limited. The hottest girls I met were definitely from the day. I can imagine doing five times better in warmer climate where the street opens up as an option. The only reason I won't come back anytime soon is because I want a place where BOTH day and night game is fruitful. This is a reason I'm not in love with Colombia, since night game is a poor option there.

To summarize the Baltics, in Riga you'll get scammed but easily fuck a woman over 30. In Estonia you can make solid pulls of all ages if you move your ass. In Lithuania you will be tortured by not being able to fuck high quality, though you can do quite well with average girls. It was extremely frustrating not to fuck the top tier even though so many of them were walking around (with their boyfriends). If it was any consellation, I fucked more girls in Lithuania than the other two countries. Lithuania is kind of like the Argentina of the Baltics... beautiful girls but hard.

I'd like to eventually do a recap of the Baltics, but for now I can mildly recommend Estonia. If I came straight to Lithuania after living in the States, I'd have a grand ball with the 6s and probably declare it pussy paradise, but after a year in Europe my standards have shot up to where this wasn't good enough. If you're coming from an ugly country, Lithuania will be fine. Even though is has hotter girls than Estonia, you're more likely to get hotter in Estonia, which itself is seeing a pussy decline. It doesn't look so great for the Baltics, but good times can still be had.

Spots to check out in Kaunas:

Barbara: Only club that consistently has people on Wednesday and Thursday nights. Wednesday is ladies night but ratio isn't so great. The girls are good quality but 7s and above will be difficult. Service is not so good since the male bartenders are busy hitting on the girls.

DejaVu: Best club for a foreigner to pick up. Great ratio (sometimes more girls than guys) on the weekends. Thursday may be worth a visit. You have to bring high energy club game here since it's loud. You'll also need a wingman. Bring a pack of cigrettes since there is a quiet smokers room that girls spend a lot of time in. This club has a no sports shoes" rule.

Room 201: A couple doors down from DejaVu (both are in the main square). It's a slightly more alternative club that has a fun vibe. You can hang by the bar and talk.

Dzem Pub: Hipster bar with friendly girls. Quality is lower than the clubs but you'll be able to pull 6s and below easily by the main bar.

Republic: American-style bar near Dzem Pub that is a good spot after 2am on weekends. I got the warmest responses from here, including my first bang. Dzem Pub and here were easiest to roll solo.

Acropolis Mall: The biggest mall in the city with grocery store, restaurants, coffee shops, and ice skating rink. I went here every day and had some good pulls. It was my Kaunas hang-out since in the winter there was no where else to go that had a lot of people.
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Lithuania Data Sheet (Kaunas)

Nice info.

Had a Lithuanian girlfriend a few years ago who was a stripper in London.

She was a real dumbass but sexy ass body with 32e breasts. Relate to the racism thing, when she was fresh off the boat she was always saying monkey this and monkey that. In the end she ended up making a very good friend who was black and I had a threesome with both of them, best bit was that the black girl was a virgin.

Haven't got to the Baltics yet, maybe when I head north for Belarus
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Solid data sheet, Roosh.

Will you be doing a book along the lines of "Roosh's Baltic Compendium"?

What's next? Return to D.C. to face the family over your SPLC blacklisting?

Another question, that I haven't asked you before - when you're traveling do you do a lot of tourist-y sightseeing etc., or no?

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Awesome right up. The fact that you can be honest enough to say you were there and couldnt pull a hottie gets major props from me for being honest about it and not BS'ing to embellish. I wish you better luck in your next location.
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Baltics come generally from Germanic.stock especially Latvians(Memel was a German city and there remained German trips till the end of WW2.Estonians are close to Finns racially and Lithuanians have some polish mix due to Commonwealth past.Lithuanians are famous for being tall if you notice Sabonis,Marculionis and a whole lot of famous basketball players come from Lithuania despite it being a relatively small country.
If I were in Baltics I would focus on the Russian minority in Latvia and the polish minority in Lithuania.It is clear rooshv dislikes germanic women so he should visit slavic countries(Ukraine,Russia,Czech Republic etc).
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Good work roosh !

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Lithuania Data Sheet (Kaunas)

Sounds like the typical anglo pattern is taking hold: bitchy hot girls and friendly, not-so-hot girls.
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Thanks Roosh!

What clothing style did you use when you went out to the bars/clubs? Did you go with the suit or something more casual? Any insights on how your style did/did not contribute to your success?
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Quote: (03-18-2012 05:18 PM)MSW2007 Wrote:  

Solid data sheet, Roosh.

Will you be doing a book along the lines of "Roosh's Baltic Compendium"?

What's next? Return to D.C. to face the family over your SPLC blacklisting?

Another question, that I haven't asked you before - when you're traveling do you do a lot of tourist-y sightseeing etc., or no?

Not sure how I want to write about the Baltics, but they are too different to do in one book.

I'm already in my next country. I left Lithuania a while ago.

I don't sightsee.

Quote: (03-18-2012 07:36 PM)Smitty Wrote:  

What clothing style did you use when you went out to the bars/clubs? Did you go with the suit or something more casual? Any insights on how your style did/did not contribute to your success?

I did both... suits and v-necks. Good style was appreciated, but not enough that Lithuanian girls approach you outright. I think it helped a bit.

Smoking helps more, since so many girls do it. I got asked if I wanted to go for a smoke more here than anymore else.
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Ryanair flies to Kaunas.
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Quote: (03-18-2012 05:18 PM)Brian Wrote:  

Awesome right up. The fact that you can be honest enough to say you were there and couldnt pull a hottie gets major props from me for being honest about it and not BS'ing to embellish. I wish you better luck in your next location.

Agreed.
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Question: What does a "Lithuanian 6" look like? Show a picture of a girl that would be in that range.
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Great data sheet.

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Do you get an idea how much Russian is spoken in Kaunas nowadays?
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Quote: (03-19-2012 04:12 AM)oldnemesis Wrote:  

Do you get an idea how much Russian is spoken in Kaunas nowadays?

Only the old people speak Russian. Young people don't.
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Here are some pictures of girls I'd classify as 6's and 6.5s for Lithuania. If you think these girls are beautiful then you will like the level of talent there.

I would do okay with this type of girl there (a 6). Notice the hair length...

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Girl on left I'd give a 6...

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Girl on left is a 4. On right I'd maybe give a 7. The bar they're at (Pop Star Bar) really blows...

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Reasonably cute 6. I'd bang without hesitation. Notice hair length...

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Can't give this girl higher than a 6...

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Another 6...

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6...

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Now this is a 7. Notice hair length..

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I'll try to post some 8s later.
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Quote: (03-19-2012 08:48 AM)Roosh Wrote:  

Here are some pictures of girls I'd classify as 6's and 6.5s for Lithuania. If you think these girls are beautiful then you will like the level of talent there.

I would do okay with this type of girl there (a 6). Notice the hair length...

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Girl on left I'd give a 6...

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Girl on left is a 4. On right I'd maybe give a 7. The bar they're at (Pop Star Bar) really blows...

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Reasonably cute 6. I'd bang without hesitation. Notice hair length...

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Can't give this girl higher than a 6...

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Another 6...

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6...

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Now this is a 7. Notice hair length..

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I'll try to post some 8s later.
Roosh, the reasonably cute 6 with dark hair is definitely a 7 IMO and beats the last one, who you said is a 7, but barely. With both, I love their hair length and would be happy with either. Last time I saw that type of hair was in Brazil. Im betting your preference now is more fixed on the eastern european look than a girl who looks darker. In terms of face, these 2 girls seem as good or better than the average brazilian garota, though I doubt they are as sexy in person.
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Im guessing you would rate most cute asian girls 5 or lower, if you are judging all those lithuanian girls as 6s. Your standards over there seem to have definitely gone up, which is why eastern europe has taken over the forum as the most talked about destination.
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Good call Roosh. Solid 6's all round.
I experienced the same problem in Tallin where anything above a 7 either had a boyfriend or just wasn't interested in hooking up... no matter how good looking or spot on my game was. Its like a default state of mind that good looking girls have to foreign guys. I struck it lucky with a solid 8 on my last day In Estonia with a girl who was studying in Copenhagen. But she was very Amerified. I'm not in any hurry to go back to Estonia or Latvia. An 8 day trip for 1 lay probably wasnt worth it. It could have easily been 0 lays.
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They are definitely 6 except the fourth girl which could be a seven.Their faces are very average for Eastern Europe not something special.I notice that Lithuanian women have the high cheeks of slavic women but their jaws and hair are different so probably they are the mix of Slavs with ancient stock(ancient Lithuanians were the last ones to be christianized in Europe till 15th century they were still pagans and were forcefully christianized).So probably they havemixed with Poles in some degree due to the common polish Lithuanian Commonwealth past that is where the high cheeks come from.
These girls would rank 6 in neighbouring countries as well like Russia,Belarus,Ukraine and Poland.
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Id bang all but the one in the red coat.
Im curious now..what would you consider a 8/9 in lithuania

I guess I pulled a completely different breed of lithuanian chick..even though she was fresh through the border

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Alright here are some girls I consider 8s from their pictures. This level of quality is not rare. I could only orbit around this level, and in one case I got to 3rd base, but no closes.

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Girl on right...

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With these girls you can look (and talk), but not touch! You gotta either have a strategy, stay long term, or get lucky. It's not an issue of "game" as it is logistics and time.
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I would agree with all the 8's you have given Roosh apart from the third and the last.

I would also bang the 7 with a flower in her hair, but none of the others.
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Lithuania Data Sheet (Kaunas)

The girls 1,5,6 are 8s.The girls 2,3,4 are 7s the best.
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Generally in Eastern Europe:
1.10s are girls over 1.80 cm less than 65 Kg with big breasts less than 22 years old with very good symmetric facial characteristics(no big nose,no round or square chin,no protruding ears,with big eyes,fat lips,high cheeks,full hair,not thin hair and teeth in good condition).
2.9s are girls over 1.75 cm,less than 65 Kg,with big breasts,less than 23 years old with the same facial characteristics as 10s.
3.8s are girls over 1.70 cm,less than 60 Kg,with normal breasts at least,less than 24 years old,they may have thin hair but have to have big eyes,fat lips,high cheeks.
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