[Greek kamaki]

(05-03-2012 11:54 AM)Citizen_Boris Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 08:08 AM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

Yes,Ukrainians are quite mixed and there is big diversity (although looks are always a slavic variation).They have mixed with Poles in the West,with Russians in the East,with Tatars and Greeks in the south,with Hungarians and Romanians in the south west.That is why in each city in Ukraine girls look different than in the next one (polish looks gradually fade from Lvov to Kamenec Podolski) with Kiev being a mix of the mixes.
A really amazing situation for the slavic lover.

Greek: This is probably the wrong thread to ask, but since we're talking about types, is there anywhere in Ukraine with a better percentage of darker haired girls? Would you be looking at places close to Moldova etc? Maybe Odessa has a good mix?

Dark haired girls can be found mostly in Donetsk.(clasical look with high heels etc).

[Citizen_Boris]

(05-03-2012 12:08 PM)Greek kamaki Wrote:  

Dark haired girls can be found mostly in Donetsk.(clasical look with high heels etc).

This man has done the research... Just been browsing VK. Thanks Kamaki. Need to get myself to an industrial shithole asap

[Eliogabalus]

(05-03-2012 07:42 AM)Citizen_Boris Wrote:  

(05-01-2012 05:06 PM)Eliogabalus Wrote:  

Do the exotic factor play a high role in kiev? How do an average black, latin, or mediterranean looking guy compared a local slavic guy? are most women natural blondes? I ask because blondes are my kryptonite.

I'm with Kamaki... Not really. They do seem to have love for the U.K. though. It's more of a Union Jack logo, pop culture/music/fashion thing... Lots of girls find French language attractive too... again though, that's probably down to material stuff like perfume and clothes.

There are quite a lot of natural blondes yes...And a lot of un-natural colours too... I notice this because I'm the opposite of you, I like jet black hair...Which there isn't a lot of. I don't think there are many guys who wouldn't find something hot in Kiev though tbh! Go on Mamba.ru or Vk... You'll get a good idea of the percentages and whatnot for blonde hair vs others... I'm from the U.K and apart from initially noticing the overall hotness, I was quite struck by the range of different types vs back home... Mind you that's probably due to the fact that my home town is full of fat hippos...They all look the same to me...

Arent most Ukranian girls naturally brown/mousy haired? I mean they arent really that dark hair (like greek, spanish or italian women) but neither generally blond like germanic people (scandinavians, dutch, northern german women), hence most of the very blond and most of the very dark haired women are most of times dyed.

You still have london (1/3 foreigners) left and more than a few polish immigrants
How really bad are the things in the UK, outside london?

[The Fantasist]

(05-03-2012 02:02 PM)Eliogabalus Wrote:  

You still have london (1/3 foreigners) left and more than a few polish immigrants
How really bad are the things in the UK, outside london?

I don't know where Boris is but it can be awful! Outside of the big cities girls you see on the streets here just take no real pride in their appearance,there is little style just the same generic outfits that they all seem to wear with the same brand name tastelessly blazoned across them in large letters 'Juicy couture' etc. And then they have their hair scraped back,their fingers weighed down by cheap Elizabeth Duke jewellery and chewed finger nails with nail polish seemingly applied in the dark. And they are usually pushing a pram with a food stained scruffy baby in it who is buried under shopping bags from Poundland and Sports Direct.

Thank god for Wizz Air.

[Citizen_Boris]

(05-03-2012 04:10 PM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

(05-03-2012 02:02 PM)Eliogabalus Wrote:  

You still have london (1/3 foreigners) left and more than a few polish immigrants
How really bad are the things in the UK, outside london?

I don't know where Boris is but it can be awful! Outside of the big cities girls you see on the streets here just take no real pride in their appearance,there is little style just the same generic outfits that they all seem to wear with the same brand name tastelessly blazoned across them in large letters 'Juicy couture' etc. And then they have their hair scraped back,their fingers weighed down by cheap Elizabeth Duke jewellery and chewed finger nails with nail polish seemingly applied in the dark. And they are usually pushing a pram with a food stained scruffy baby in it who is buried under shopping bags from Poundland and Sports Direct.

Thank god for Wizz Air.

This dude must live three doors down from me! Nailed it there! I'm in London, but that pretty much describes my hometown....

[Deb Auchery]

In Budapest at the moment. A refreshing change from Lvov. There is more quality here, although quite a large amount of fatties too due to a huge amount of fast food available. Lots of kebab shops(blame the Turks/Arabs)

The hot Budapest girls have prettier faces, better skin, more athletic bodies, and bigger boobs than Lvov girls. They're also dressed better and there seems to be a huge hipster scene

The guys are way more competition than Ukraine, they look healthier and it looks like most work out/exercise

Been here a few times before and have had success. Don't think I could plow my way through as many cute girls as I could in Lvov, but quality is easier to find.

Tempted to move here, but I would hate being surrounded by so many foreigners once again. I would not have the same exotic factor as in Ukraine as here some girls are not interested in foreigners. In Ukraine they all are.

Great city through, only here for the day so just relaxing rather than hunting.

[Sangfroid]

(05-04-2012 07:03 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

In Budapest at the moment. A refreshing change from Lvov. There is more quality here, although quite a large amount of fatties too due to a huge amount of fast food available. Lots of kebab shops(blame the Turks/Arabs)

The hot Budapest girls have prettier faces, better skin, more athletic bodies, and bigger boobs than Lvov girls. They're also dressed better and there seems to be a huge hipster scene

The guys are way more competition than Ukraine, they look healthier and it looks like most work out/exercise

Been here a few times before and have had success. Don't think I could plow my way through as many cute girls as I could in Lvov, but quality is easier to find.

Tempted to move here, but I would hate being surrounded by so many foreigners once again. I would not have the same exotic factor as in Ukraine as here some girls are not interested in foreigners. In Ukraine they all are.

Great city through, only here for the day so just relaxing rather than hunting.

Deb,

Greek Kamaki has described Hungarian women as lacking leginess and height. Is that what you're seeing? Also, would you say that Hungarian women have hourglass frames?

I'm interested in Budapest for a few reasons but I ask because if they lack two or more of those qualities, my dick will not be happy there.

[Greek kamaki]

I did not write that they lack height.I wrote only that they are shorter than Czech girls and Serbian girls.Compared to Ukrainian girls they have the same height on average.
As for legs they do not have the slavic shaped legs.Their legs are more germanic.Their faces are also not slavic although there is some mix with Slavs.

[The Fantasist]

(05-04-2012 07:03 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

In Budapest at the moment. A refreshing change from Lvov. There is more quality here, although quite a large amount of fatties too due to a huge amount of fast food available. Lots of kebab shops(blame the Turks/Arabs)

The hot Budapest girls have prettier faces, better skin, more athletic bodies, and bigger boobs than Lvov girls. They're also dressed better and there seems to be a huge hipster scene

The guys are way more competition than Ukraine, they look healthier and it looks like most work out/exercise

Been here a few times before and have had success. Don't think I could plow my way through as many cute girls as I could in Lvov, but quality is easier to find.

Tempted to move here, but I would hate being surrounded by so many foreigners once again. I would not have the same exotic factor as in Ukraine as here some girls are not interested in foreigners. In Ukraine they all are.

Great city through, only here for the day so just relaxing rather than hunting.

Interesting post.

I'm planning on moving to Budapest in the not too distant future,another forum member I spoke to is planning on doing the same. Would be great to have a few of us living in the city for wingmanship and money making schemes.

Did you go straight there from Lviv Deb, and if so what's the best way,train?

[Deb Auchery]

After walking around this afternoon in the sun I am planning to move here too. I can't turn a blind eye to tall leggy natural blondes. In Lvov these do not exist.

There seems to be body types of every kind here. I have seen plenty of 9's today. They seem to look much healthier and have prettier faces than Ukraine.

Cheaper than when I visited last. Huge plate of Chinese food 3.5 euro. Half litre bottles of Heineken (Tesco) 200 forint.

So nice coming here after Ukraine, clean, civilised, people have manners, good service.

Lot of crazy people on the streets though, more than in Ukraine

[Deb Auchery]

(05-04-2012 09:24 AM)Vorkuta Wrote:  

(05-04-2012 07:03 AM)Deb Auchery Wrote:  

In Budapest at the moment. A refreshing change from Lvov. There is more quality here, although quite a large amount of fatties too due to a huge amount of fast food available. Lots of kebab shops(blame the Turks/Arabs)

The hot Budapest girls have prettier faces, better skin, more athletic bodies, and bigger boobs than Lvov girls. They're also dressed better and there seems to be a huge hipster scene

T he guys are way more competition than Ukraine, they look healthier and it looks like most work out/exercise

Been here a few times before and have had success. Don't think I could plow my way through as many cute girls as I could in Lvov, but quality is easier to find.

Tempted to move here, but I would hate being surrounded by so many foreigners once again. I would not have the same exotic factor as in Ukraine as here some girls are not interested in foreigners. In Ukraine they all are.

Great city through, only here for the day so just relaxing rather than hunting.

Interesting post.

I'm planning on moving to Budapest in the not too distant future,another forum member I spoke to is planning on doing the same. Would be great to have a few of us living in the city for wingmanship and money making schemes.

Did you go straight there from Lviv Deb, and if so what's the best way,train?

Will pm you

[Greek kamaki]

It is the illusion of abudance.After Ukraine every country seems to have a plentiful of hot women.This is just an illusion as these women are not available as in Ukraine.A crash test can show this.
There are cheap flights from Lvov to Budapest I think.

[Deb Auchery]

There's more competition here that's for sure. But I have had some good results which I have documented(virgin in the train, drugged up volleyball player).

Its not somewhere you can become king like in Ukraine. But I think I can do well here, the milf are also much better than I have seen in Ukraine. In Lvov I am generally not attracted to girls over 27

I think as a place to live, Budapest seems leaps and bounds ahead of Ukraine.

Would be good to hear from people who have spent a decent amount of time here

[Roosh]

Might as well start a new Budapest thread on hijack this one: http://www.rooshvforum.network/thread-12490.html

[Marco]

Will arrive to Kiev for this weekend, check it out during Euro fever and report back.
Anyone is around and would like to wing ?

[Deb Auchery]

I wont be there for a couple more weeks alas.

[AlphaTravel]

Quote:

But I have had some good results which I have documented(virgin in the train

Tell the story for those of which haven't heard it.

[Deb Auchery]

(06-23-2012 04:12 PM)AlphaTravel Wrote:  

Quote:

But I have had some good results which I have documented(virgin in the train

Tell the story for those of which haven't heard it.

I started writing it but then changed my mind. Worried about my online presence already. The shortened version - friend and I met two girls outside of Morrisons, they say "hey we're drunk and we're 16" we drag them away, end up at the train station, we get on the train with them into the countryside. The hot one is sucking my cock on the train with the other two watching, take her in the toilet and and fuck her. Toilet was not pleasent but hey ho, there was blood, jizz, piss. When we emerged from the train one of the girls' mother was at the station with her poodle, and there was me shirt half off me, sweating like a rapist, covered in juices.

We get a taxi back to Budapest straight back to the club, and end up scoring again

[brianmark]

I haven't been to Ukraine in 5 years, but spent almost 7 months there. I though that Kiev was expensive. Apts near the center were about $100 even then. So the Hostels don't care if you bring girls back there to bang? Is the bar "112" still in the Areana complex? Met a lot of girls there!

[The Duke]

(06-23-2012 08:59 PM)brianmark Wrote:  

I haven't been to Ukraine in 5 years, but spent almost 7 months there. I though that Kiev was expensive. Apts near the center were about $100 even then. So the Hostels don't care if you bring girls back there to bang? Is the bar "112" still in the Areana complex? Met a lot of girls there!

Back in February, I stayed in an apartment in the center of Kiev for $50 a night. I used booking.com.

I stayed in a hostel one time in my life and it was in Kiev. I dont think bringing a girl back was possible at that one.

[Deb Auchery]

(06-23-2012 08:59 PM)brianmark Wrote:  

I haven't been to Ukraine in 5 years, but spent almost 7 months there. I though that Kiev was expensive. Apts near the center were about $100 even then. So the Hostels don't care if you bring girls back there to bang? Is the bar "112" still in the Areana complex? Met a lot of girls there!

Not too sure, there is Vodka Bar there, that place is a lot of fun.

[Marco]

Weekend report in Kiev:

Went to 2 dance clubs:

Vodka Bar, many attractive girls but also a lot of competition, mixed kind of crowd and ages. Had a nice time there, was making out with a tall skinny blond which later just moved from a guy to a guy.
Got also phone from amazing 20 YO juicy blond which I met the day later.

Deluxe, quite fancy complex with 3-4 floors, restaurant, lounge and dance floor. Met there 1st a girl which I knew from VK but she turns out to be a but chubby so I just moved on, prices are western.
In one point I watched the dance floor and saw 70-30 guys ratio and a handsome guy trying to pick a MILF which was 5-6 max, at this point I understand it is not good place for a pickup.
Oh yes, there were semi-pros there asking for 300$ per hour! or 500$ for 2!

Tried to go into shooters club (not the cafe- different venue) but was faced controlled (!)

Met few local girls via CS / VK / Mamaba:
Had 2 dates which 1 of them was completely stunning, 9, intelligent and fun, she was not escalating but I assume I needed 1-2 more dates.
2nd date, maybe 7, thin, cute face, again was very happy and wanted to meet again but nothing immediate.
CS girls are doable I presume, but as they see many foreigners they do choose surgically.

Note I was during the Euro tournament so true there were many foreigners around but also many many stunning girls with minimum clothing as of the hot summer, in the Kreshatic street all become pedestrian, with large screen for the games and many booths of activities so during the whole day the place was packed with approachable girls. Super location for day game, got few phones which most I could not met later as of the short weekend.

In general my reputation is similar to my previous visit to Ukraine: ONS can happen but less likely. On the other hand you can get very high quality girl for LTR purposes if you have the time to spend.

Recommendations for Kiev: Create a lot of Mamba/ VK leads and date them serially, Better than clubbing.
CS leads are good for social circle and getting around.

[Deb Auchery]

(06-24-2012 08:04 AM)Marco Wrote:  

Weekend report in Kiev:

Went to 2 dance clubs:

Vodka Bar, many attractive girls but also a lot of competition, mixed kind of crowd and ages. Had a nice time there, was making out with a tall skinny blond which later just moved from a guy to a guy.
Got also phone from amazing 20 YO juicy blond which I met the day later.

Deluxe, quite fancy complex with 3-4 floors, restaurant, lounge and dance floor. Met there 1st a girl which I knew from VK but she turns out to be a but chubby so I just moved on, prices are western.
In one point I watched the dance floor and saw 70-30 guys ratio and a handsome guy trying to pick a MILF which was 5-6 max, at this point I understand it is not good place for a pickup.
Oh yes, there were semi-pros there asking for 300$ per hour! or 500$ for 2!

Tried to go into shooters club (not the cafe- different venue) but was faced controlled (!)

Met few local girls via CS / VK / Mamaba:
Had 2 dates which 1 of them was completely stunning, 9, intelligent and fun, she was not escalating but I assume I needed 1-2 more dates.
2nd date, maybe 7, thin, cute face, again was very happy and wanted to meet again but nothing immediate.
CS girls are doable I presume, but as they see many foreigners they do choose surgically.

Note I was during the Euro tournament so true there were many foreigners around but also many many stunning girls with minimum clothing as of the hot summer, in the Kreshatic street all become pedestrian, with large screen for the games and many booths of activities so during the whole day the place was packed with approachable girls. Super location for day game, got few phones which most I could not met later as of the short weekend.

In general my reputation is similar to my previous visit to Ukraine: ONS can happen but less likely. On the other hand you can get very high quality girl for LTR purposes if you have the time to spend.

Recommendations for Kiev: Create a lot of Mamba/ VK leads and date them serially, Better than clubbing.
CS leads are good for social circle and getting around.

Nice info

Yes, in Kiev and Ukraine it very much depends on your look or game. Some people will say they get nothing from the websites like Mamba/VK, others will get unlimited action. Some will say ONS is unlikely, others will get it every week.

I agree that Mamba/VK can be better than going out to a club to hunt, other have said they get little response.

When Kreshetik is pedestrianised, it's a day game paradise

[slubu]

I'm heading to Ukraine for 7-10 days this fall. Would you guys recommend all the time in Kiev (current plan), or splitting between Kiev and another city (Lviv, Odessa, Kharkiv)?

[Deb Auchery]

(06-24-2012 11:58 PM)slubu Wrote:  

I'm heading to Ukraine for 7-10 days this fall. Would you guys recommend all the time in Kiev (current plan), or splitting between Kiev and another city (Lviv, Odessa, Kharkiv)?

I would split your time between Kiev and Odessa