[WestCoast]

Hey all just quick advise on a situation I have come across lately. I recently improved my quality of women but I have noticed that I'm starting to get massive amounts of resistance "you're a player, you're a player I can't sleep with you". I can't decide if this is normal? Maybe it helps that I am meeting the better quality during the day and these are the ones who pretty much want to be "in a relationship" before anything goes down. New to day game so maybe that's why it's a failure, I've only done the whole beta dinner thing once and it worked because I believe her ex made her a man hater who prefers beta now? Anyway, any advice on when to throw in some beta would be great or maybe something is going wrong with a transition?

Thanks all I'll go back to throwin up another data sheet this week if I get some free time from work.

[Chad Daring]

I'm naturally dorky, which I believe helps take the "you're a player" edge off. Be fun and funny, if she's laughing she wont be rationalizing.

Example, the third date before I banged the girl I'm steadily banging now we went to Coldstone, it was around Xmas and there was this HUGE stuffed bear in rocking chair next to a little charlie Brown tree. The bear just looked weird, like it was hand sewn, poorly. The eyes were really off. I just made fun of the thing the entire time. "That bear looks like a pedophile" (giggling to myself at the pedobear joke) "Seriously, look at it, stare into its eyes, it makes your soul hurt doesn't it?!" She was embarrassed because I was talking at full volume, but she couldn't stop laughing.

Some little kid even walked in and said "that bear looks scary!" I Pointed at the kid and yelled "see! This kid gets it, he knows whats up!" The parents and the kid laughed, so did she. That night as I escalated, hand a couple inches from her snizz, I'd mention the bear just as she got all resistant, she'd laugh, forget about the whole "is he a player, am I slut?" voice and pow.

[WestCoast]

Thanks for the post dude, sounds like you're confirming some assumptions I made. I just throw in the towel after date 5 usually because I think of all the other things I could be doing with my time. Anyone I meet at night I toss away after a few dates because it's SF and people are easy here, maybe I will move along slower for day pickups. My style is much more on the aggressive side, which is prob why after date 2 she was literally yelling at me calling me a player in a loud bar. Also didn't help that after overcoming that reaction the cab driver asked us "how long we knew each other" as soon as we were half way back to my place. I think I'll move all my material back a day instead of going for a day 2 close out which is the norm for a night pick up.