[Skyhigh]

What I don't understand is why some guys would go through all that trouble like multiple dates or even months of time with the girl then bang her, but right after that, they don't even care and won't pick up her calls or want to do anything with her. Maybe it's just me, But I hate just 1 bang. The 1st one is always somewhat awkward. But more importantly, I like to do that so that I can get multiple bangs and try to coax her into a fuckbuddy. I mean its probably much easier to bang that girl multiple times for a month or so than game like 3-5 different chicks at the same time.

[Aliblahba]

I get great satisfaction from the chase. It's just as important as the bang. I agree that the first night is usually awkward, but investing a little time on the front side can alleviate this.

Firstly, my goal is to flip the script on her. Within a few days, I want her to be begging me for sex. Women are not used to being told no. It drives them crazy, and puts YOU in control. When you finally decide to let her have it, her inhibitions will disappear.

The times I go for ONS's:
1. Short on time (usually <4 days in a locale)
2. Extremely horny
3. That rare occasion when there's a intense instant sexual vibe.

But either way, if she's good in bed, and has an agreeable personality, I like to keep them around for awhile in the rotation. It's good to squeeze as much ROI out of them as possible.

[Soma]

(02-22-2012 11:34 AM)Skyhigh Wrote:  

What I don't understand is why some guys would go through all that trouble like multiple dates or even months of time with the girl then bang her, but right after that, they don't even care and won't pick up her calls or want to do anything with her.

That doesn't sound like a ONS to me.

[MiXX]

(02-22-2012 11:34 AM)Skyhigh Wrote:  

What I don't understand is why some guys would go through all that trouble like multiple dates or even months of time with the girl then bang her

There's your confusion. ONS's DO NOT come from courting a girl for months, it's usually hours, anywhere between 6-10hrs of TOTAL intimacy time from random encounter to sex. That's less time than a typical workday!

Any guy who waits MONTHS to have sex with girl is crazy. Women know they will fuck you within the first 15 minutes of meeting you! It's up to you, the player, to escalate the encounter from social to sex, if she is willing to fuck you.

The top players of this forum do not go on more than 4 dates with a girl before she has to shit or get off the pot.

So, you can now see how much easier it is to BANG and leave after your investment was 3 days MAX!!


Mixx

[Aliblahba]

(02-22-2012 12:24 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

There's your confusion. ONS's DO NOT come from courting a girl for months, it's usually hours, anywhere between 6-10hrs of TOTAL intimacy time from random encounter to sex. That's less time than a typical workday!

Any guy who waits MONTHS to have sex with girl is crazy. Women know they will fuck you within the first 15 minutes of meeting you! It's up to you, the player, to escalate the encounter from social to sex, if she is willing to fuck you.

The top players of this forum do not go on more than 4 dates with a girl before she has to shit or get off the pot.

So, you can now see how much easier it is to BANG and leave after your investment was 3 days MAX!!


Mixx

I disagree on timeline. If you spend a few hours over that 3 months to get the girl in bed it's still a minimum amount of time actually spent out of your day.

For example:

In Emech's town, there is a fucking smoking hot 9, and I mean solid exotic variety, bagging groceries. If he goes in that store, which he has to anyway, what are the chances of seeing her every time? Or not getting busted always getting in her line, or paying out when she is on break. So, it might take the course of a couple months to build up to getting a number or date.

Time invested instead of the actual timeline is what should be counted. But yes, if a guy spends many hours, dates, and money, over 3 months just to get a bang, he needs to readjust his game. Quick.

Hey Emech, did you ever hookup with that chick?

[Urban Renaissance Man]

As someone who has learned the hard way, I can tell you that waiting too long for girls working at MCjobs is a big mistake! Rarely are they there more than 3-6 months. I can think of about 4 girls off the top of my head working as a store clerk/cashier or mannequin dresser that I had good initial rapport with but failed to make the kill then and there, gambling on the fact that I'd catch them later; only to find out that they had transferred or quit 2 days before I returned!

[Hencredible Casanova]

(02-22-2012 12:24 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

The top players of this forum do not go on more than 4 dates with a girl before she has to shit or get off the pot.

Yeah. I don't go on more than three dates max. On the second one, I expect some kissing and touching at least or there probably won't be a third.

[MiXX]

(02-22-2012 12:45 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

I disagree on timeline. If you spend a few hours over that 3 months to get the girl in bed it's still a minimum amount of time actually spent out of your day.

I am not getting why any man would want to purposely spread out/delay his timeline over 3 months to bang a girl. The longer you wait by spreading out the timeline over months to f-close, the higher risk of resistance/rejection/remorse IMO.

The whole point is to take advantage of the females "mental clock" and bang her as quick as possible for a ONS. Letting her go, and regroup later on, is like resetting the timeline back to ZERO.

You are giving women more credit that they deserve when it comes to ONS, because in her mind, once you leave, and months go by, you will either fall into the friend zone, or you will have to recap all your moves in her mind like Chris Berman on football highlights every time - unnecessary frustration.


Mixx

[Hencredible Casanova]

(02-22-2012 12:45 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

(02-22-2012 12:24 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

There's your confusion. ONS's DO NOT come from courting a girl for months, it's usually hours, anywhere between 6-10hrs of TOTAL intimacy time from random encounter to sex. That's less time than a typical workday!

Any guy who waits MONTHS to have sex with girl is crazy. Women know they will fuck you within the first 15 minutes of meeting you! It's up to you, the player, to escalate the encounter from social to sex, if she is willing to fuck you.

The top players of this forum do not go on more than 4 dates with a girl before she has to shit or get off the pot.

So, you can now see how much easier it is to BANG and leave after your investment was 3 days MAX!!


Mixx

I disagree on timeline. If you spend a few hours over that 3 months to get the girl in bed it's still a minimum amount of time actually spent out of your day.

For example:

In Emech's town, there is a fucking smoking hot 9, and I mean solid exotic variety, bagging groceries. If he goes in that store, which he has to anyway, what are the chances of seeing her every time? Or not getting busted always getting in her line, or paying out when she is on break. So, it might take the course of a couple months to build up to getting a number or date.

Time invested instead of the actual timeline is what should be counted. But yes, if a guy spends many hours, dates, and money, over 3 months just to get a bang, he needs to readjust his game. Quick.

Hey Emech, did you ever hookup with that chick?

I don't think a guy should wait months before he starts escalating. You should try to escalate fairly soon after meeting a girl. If you see a 9 that works in a grocery store, give her the game right away. Every time you see her, talk to her and offer to meet up sometime when she's not working. You'll know right away if she likes you or not. If she likes you but holds back, keep talking to her and giving that game. You're going to see her at the store anyway. Sooner or later, there's a good chance she'll crack. Most girls succumb to persistence and confidence. Deadly combo.

[soup]

(02-22-2012 01:01 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(02-22-2012 12:45 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

(02-22-2012 12:24 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

There's your confusion. ONS's DO NOT come from courting a girl for months, it's usually hours, anywhere between 6-10hrs of TOTAL intimacy time from random encounter to sex. That's less time than a typical workday!

Any guy who waits MONTHS to have sex with girl is crazy. Women know they will fuck you within the first 15 minutes of meeting you! It's up to you, the player, to escalate the encounter from social to sex, if she is willing to fuck you.

The top players of this forum do not go on more than 4 dates with a girl before she has to shit or get off the pot.

So, you can now see how much easier it is to BANG and leave after your investment was 3 days MAX!!


Mixx

I disagree on timeline. If you spend a few hours over that 3 months to get the girl in bed it's still a minimum amount of time actually spent out of your day.

For example:

In Emech's town, there is a fucking smoking hot 9, and I mean solid exotic variety, bagging groceries. If he goes in that store, which he has to anyway, what are the chances of seeing her every time? Or not getting busted always getting in her line, or paying out when she is on break. So, it might take the course of a couple months to build up to getting a number or date.

Time invested instead of the actual timeline is what should be counted. But yes, if a guy spends many hours, dates, and money, over 3 months just to get a bang, he needs to readjust his game. Quick.

Hey Emech, did you ever hookup with that chick?

I don't think a guy should wait months before he starts escalating. You should try to escalate fairly soon after meeting a girl. If you see a 9 that works in a grocery store, give her the game right away. Every time you see her, talk to her and offer to meet up sometime when she's not working. You'll know right away if she likes you or not. If she likes you but holds back, keep talking to her and giving that game. You're going to see her at the store anyway. Sooner or later, there's a good chance she'll crack. Most girls succumb to persistence and confidence. Deadly combo.

9s work in grocery stores? Where?

[el mechanico]

(02-22-2012 01:01 PM)Hencredible Casanova Wrote:  

(02-22-2012 12:45 PM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

(02-22-2012 12:24 PM)MiXX Wrote:  

There's your confusion. ONS's DO NOT come from courting a girl for months, it's usually hours, anywhere between 6-10hrs of TOTAL intimacy time from random encounter to sex. That's less time than a typical workday!

Any guy who waits MONTHS to have sex with girl is crazy. Women know they will fuck you within the first 15 minutes of meeting you! It's up to you, the player, to escalate the encounter from social to sex, if she is willing to fuck you.

The top players of this forum do not go on more than 4 dates with a girl before she has to shit or get off the pot.

So, you can now see how much easier it is to BANG and leave after your investment was 3 days MAX!!


Mixx

I disagree on timeline. If you spend a few hours over that 3 months to get the girl in bed it's still a minimum amount of time actually spent out of your day.

For example:

In Emech's town, there is a fucking smoking hot 9, and I mean solid exotic variety, bagging groceries. If he goes in that store, which he has to anyway, what are the chances of seeing her every time? Or not getting busted always getting in her line, or paying out when she is on break. So, it might take the course of a couple months to build up to getting a number or date.

Time invested instead of the actual timeline is what should be counted. But yes, if a guy spends many hours, dates, and money, over 3 months just to get a bang, he needs to readjust his game. Quick.

Hey Emech, did you ever hookup with that chick?

I don't think a guy should wait months before he starts escalating. You should try to escalate fairly soon after meeting a girl. If you see a 9 that works in a grocery store, give her the game right away. Every time you see her, talk to her and offer to meet up sometime when she's not working. You'll know right away if she likes you or not. If she likes you but holds back, keep talking to her and giving that game. You're going to see her at the store anyway. Sooner or later, there's a good chance she'll crack. Most girls succumb to persistence and confidence. Deadly combo.

There's all kinds of girls around here working in stores like that. I was in Chick fil let the other day in Trinity FL and saw nothing less than a 7 working.

I do what's called farming. I plant seeds then harvest my crops. you can't be in an environment where escalation is going to work all the time but, my town is small enough that I can find anyone again. I'm harvesting these bangs continuously as well as chasing ONS or ASAP as much as possible.

Now as far as the 3 date rule goes...I try to breeze into girls as much as possible. I meet but then have to go. Fast. Then when I'm ready to harvest I have my logistics dialed in for that particular girl. So sometimes I see them 5 to 10 times briefly. The reason is I'm keeping the ball moving. On a day that I meet-up with one or two girls I have my logistics set up for a different one. So I don't have time to invest plus it makes the close easier.

Add in the fact that I'm home with my kid 4 nights a week. 4 bangless nights? Not a chance! I reel my crops in after she goes to sleep. Four or 5 quick meets and then "Hey baby!! Stuck in, Come for a drink" or some dumb shit.

I'm doing this with sometimes 40 or so girls at once. So since friday I've fucked three girls. I seem to be more available after midnight by design. A busy guy like me may be able to pencil you in then. If my ONS game looks bleak I start my harvest at 11pm.

[Chad Daring]

I had my first ever ONS the other day actually, every other girl I've banged there's been at least one repeat performance, but this Asian cougar told me a few days after I banged her that it pretty much was a one time deal. I was only salty because she was a good fuck lol.

As far as why would you? Builds the right mindset. Realizing that most women you find attractive are just a nice pair of tits, an ass, and a hole (or three) helps build the not giving a fuck mentality that you need to not get total soul crushed when a girl shoots you down. For me, at least, having that first ONS really helped shatter the "princess myth"

[nyc]

A one night stand (ONS) is when you bang a woman on the same night that you meet her. You're not investing months of time or multiple dates with her. You're meeting her for the first time, banging her one minute or several hours later, and *never seeing her again.*

A same night lay (SNL) is similar, in that you bang her on the same night you meet her, but you see her another day. You might bang an SNL a few more times or even begin a relationship with her.

What are some reasons for a ONS?

1. It's not possible to see her again. She's in the city for one night and wants some local action.
2. She's not attractive enough to warrant seeing again. It's 3:30am and she's a 5 at best. You're drunk and horny. It happens to the best of us; just don't make a habit out of it.
3. You enjoy the thrill of the hunt too much. You have trouble keeping your eyes from wandering when you're on a date.
4. You might want to see her again (and make her a SNL) but she flakes on you. Maybe things went "too fast" for her. Maybe she has a boyfriend. Maybe you didn't fuck her right. Who cares why? Don't dwell on it. But I always fuck her right.
   

[j r]

Players view relationships as either something you think about having way off in the distant future, like player retirement, or something you acquiesce to because you've met a girl who's so absolutely perfect for you at a given moment in time that you just can't bring yourself to stop seeing her, although you also can't bring yourself to stop tagging a little strange on the side.

That being said, this thread hits on the great game divide. There's roughly two kinds of players: the ones who go for the one-and-done and the ones who keep girls in the rotation for a while. Personally, I'm in the latter category. I want to bang a chick a couple-few times and I even like having women around to do random stuff with.

I've heard some debate about whether it takes more effort to maintain a harem or to constantly game new chicks. The answer probably depends on your particular situation in life. At the end of the day, though, it's not really the effort; it's your preference.

[Cookie]

I've never locked a girl out after a ONS. Of the ones I've had I either didn't exchange any contact information with the girl / or am still friendly with her.
100% of my one night stands were due to the short term nature of the relation (i.e. I was traveling, the girl was traveling, or some other logistics thing), or SNLs.

Oh actually I did forget: I banged a 6 once who invited me to spend the weekend with her, but she was kind of weird and had a butter face. But we still talk sometimes.

Really I don't see the point of spending weeks planning how to plow one girl one time, but whatever trips your trigger.